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by kansas1946 February 7, 2008 11:28 PM EST
Sorry. I am a black male, and I don''''t buy it. McCain v Obama will be more of the same -- two ******* running for president. Obama is ran as racially transcendent until he needed to unify black support around him. So his surrogates complained and complained and complained about racism. Give me a break. White guys, like yourself, hate Hillary. So maybe that means she should not get the nomination -- but we should call sexism what it is.


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Posted by darrren12000 at 07:32 PM : Feb 07, 2008
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You may or may not be a black male, but I will tell you this. Anyone who votes for Obama just because he is black, or votes for Hillary just because she is a woman, has missed the point. I don''t hate Hillary but I am supporting Obama. I think he is the finest candidate from either party that we have had for years. I think Hillary is a fine candidate but I don''t like her health care plan. I thought Edwards was a fine candidate, but he just couldn''t gain momentum. Democrats - three great candidates
Repulbicans - one so-so candidate.
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by kansas1946 February 7, 2008 11:24 PM EST
It is worth pondering for a moment what the prospect of a presidential race between Barack Obama and John McCain would say about the United States of America. I believe it would say something very nice.
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I believe so too. Maybe all of the hatefulness is finally wearing people out. It is about time. Some of the most hateful rhetoric from the right has been aimed and McCain and Obama, and of course, Hillary. And they are all doing well. I think the ditto-heads finally grew a brain and started thinking for themselves, I think Ann Coulter has just been exposed for the hate-monger that she is. Just think, every right-wing whacko talk show host on the radio has been blasing McCain for months and here he is. Amazing.
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by darrren12000 February 7, 2008 10:32 PM EST
Sorry. I am a black male, and I don''t buy it. McCain v Obama will be more of the same -- two ******* running for president. Obama is ran as racially transcendent until he needed to unify black support around him. So his surrogates complained and complained and complained about racism. Give me a break. White guys, like yourself, hate Hillary. So maybe that means she should not get the nomination -- but we should call sexism what it is.
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by doctor--o February 7, 2008 9:38 PM EST
Obama vs McCain

Thank God

Obama would be a step forward for the Democrats.

McCain would be...
maybe, maybe, maybe,
the beginning of the end of the stupid Reagan-era.

I think Alzheimer''s collectively spread to the entire Republican party since that time.
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by quatrops February 7, 2008 7:40 PM EST
The "factual" basis of crtoo''s 1:27 anti-Obama diatribe is that Obama is "a snake in the grass". Are such profundities as this supposed to move the dialogue forward? Why is Obama''s observation that the neo-con slime machine is going to go in to full gear digging up Hillary-dirt so disturbing to this poster? ANYONE who has been in Washington politics as long as the Clintons (or McCain) is vulnerable, and the primary electorate SHOULD be aware of that when selecting their most electable candidate.

I would be happy to see either Clinton or Obama as president, but at this point I believe Obama''s vision of what America can be outweighs Clinton''s "experience" card in the minds of voters.

And what the h-ll does crtoo mean by a "Obama/McCain ticket"?. McCain as Obama''s veep? ? ?. This kind of absurdity is an example of what I meant earlier when I suggested commenters have become POLARIZED and POLITICIZED that they are unable to contribute constructively, or to make sense even to themselves. I can only guess that crtoo was trying to say "Obama VS McCain ELECTION".

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by lvdragonlady-2009 February 7, 2008 7:29 PM EST
We probably all want some kind of change. We want our freedoms and our rights. The question is ''what'' Bush taken away from us worth it. I say NO. I want all my freedoms, I do not need someone else doing my thinking for me or deciding, for me, what is best. You are elected ''to do a job'', nothing more, nothing less. Your job is to UPHOLD our rights, NOT take them away.
I do not know about anyone else, be let me decide how best to protect me, let me decide how to or not to worship. We are allowing this country to become a dictatorship because of 9/11. We need to start depending on ourselves instead of our elected officials. They are only in it for what ''they'' can get out of it, nothing more nothing less.
WAKE UP AMERICA, don''t continue to be blinded by the media. Think for yourselves.
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by crtoo February 7, 2008 4:27 PM EST
i have seen it and at least my intuition is confirmed. Obama will do anything, just like any other candidate, to get there.

However, never heard of using opposing party slime to bash your colleague and party member competition.

Yup, a banner bashing Bill Clinton and blaming him for the failure of the democratic party. Worse yet calling him UNAMERICAN. Bill was a 2 term President. Maxed out by law. 8 years of peace. later 4 years of prosperity and resulting in not only a budget in the black but with a sizable surplus surplus.

Why if so many are looking "to the future, a new future, a change" do you get stuck in the past of which they have a foggy recollection at best?

Now I can see the probability of an OBAMA/MCCAIN ticket. I felt it and now I know it. Obama is worse than I thought. he really is a snake in the grass.

OBAMA - I challenge you to Come out with the truth instead of the canned publicity you paid mega bucks for. Tell it like it is. Tell it how you are a business man, a politician, stop playing the fiddle and let people really see under the veneer before you stab us in the back. Give us a change to defend ourselves first.
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by davidlar2 February 7, 2008 3:48 PM EST
We have lost touch with the core visionary differences between right and left. In an ideal world, the right (Republicans) is supposed to say that we are better off by maximizing individual freedom, even if it means people are a little less equal. The left (Democrats) is supposed to say that we are better off by maximizing equality, even if it means that people have a little less freedom.

The Democrats have been closer to the line above than the Republicans (excluding Ron Paul, who was never taken seriously as a Republican candidate). The diversion into religious and security politics (ignoring corruption) that emphasizing Christianity and national security over freedom and equality really does not lead to constructive debate and leaves half of the ball dropped, the important one for those of us (Libertarians) who want to live in a free country even more than we want to live in an equal country.
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by crtoo February 7, 2008 3:15 PM EST
Posted by Quatrops at 11:07 AM : Feb 07, 2008

What then would you have us think about, debate about, ponder?
what then would you do to go with or change the present status quo?

Moan and groan about other posts, but you add nothing.
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by crtoo February 7, 2008 3:12 PM EST
Posted by ByeNeocons at 11:29 AM : Feb 07, 2008

OMG, I forgot all about Nicaragua, when I live just 50 miles from there and watched the planes, soldiers and trucks making their runs. In fact certain local farmers received sizable payments for running everything otherwise known as "nothing" to Nicaragua. To handle all this traffic, Reagan rebuilt the Liberia Airport to handle US fighters and cargo planes to be "the best Airport in Central America".

I forgot about G.Bush Sr. close involvement in plane loads of DRUGS flying out of Panama into Miami.

I forgot about Oli Norths cover up , etc. etc.

Those that want to know the truth have no problem getting at the truth.

Unfortunately MCM (Mega Corporate Media), doesn''t want to know the truth or doesn''t want the public to know it. You decide depending on how charitable you chose to be.
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