Comments on: It's Not Change, Stupid

CBS's Meyer: "Change" Was Not The Force The Political Elite Thought It Was

[nottellin1]

Its all about Hillary trying to prove to herself that her "co-presidency" wasnt just a sham marriage to Bill (which it was).


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Posted by NameVerified at 01:23 PM : Jan 10, 2008

Let us not forget Hilary''s famous quote from 1993 "WE ARE THE PRESIDENT", voting for Hilary is a two for one deal. Like she''d ever let Bill say word one during ''her'' presidency. Yikes!!!

[matter77]

God article - I totally agree. Many are now seeing that the change mantra is empty retoric. But there''s more, too.
What is the ''middle''? Is there such a thing. As you know, if you take a bunch of numbers and their average, none of them may equal the average.
So, is the middle, whatever that is, not satisfying to anyone?
Behold the rise of populism in America.

[walt1944-2009]

The Great Emperor Bush II and all his neocon allies are happy to see that there are so many "anti-change" comments pouring in after the New Hampshire primary.

Because of these comments, the Great Emperor feels that everyone out there would rather have 8 more years of "STAY THE COURSE" from the neocon Fascist Republicans than from the evil, cowardly Whimpo-crats. Eight more years of "STAY THE COURSE" would achieve most of the Great Emperor''s and the Fascist GOP''s objectives of complete destruction of the middle class, a worthless currency resulting in run-away inflation, oceans of debt, continual war, a disintegrating infrastructure, and continued huge profits for businesses and unimagined wealth for the elite.

So, let us continue to STAY THE COURSE!!!!!!!!

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!!

[hwy71so]

Since 1981, Congressman Duncan Hunter has served on the House Armed Services Committee, as Chairman from 2002-06, and currently as the Ranking Minority Member. Hunter has championed a strong military, border security, and protecting America''''''''s workers and small businesses against unfair trade competition by opposing schemes like NAFTA and the North American Union. He understands that protecting jobs in U.S. defense, aircraft, ship repair, machine tools, textile, steel and titanium industries are essential for maintaining the surge capacity of the U.S. industrial base. Since 9-11-01, Hunter has led the fight to secure our borders against transnational terrorists and lawless elements; and to release two unjustly convicted border guards, Ramos and Campion.

Hunter earned the Combat Infantryman''''''''s Badge and Bronze Star in Vietnam and demands that the U.S. Government keep its promises to Veterans. His efforts to provide tax relief for working families, protect Social Security, and promote strong family values earned him 100% ratings from Eagle Forum, the American Conservative Union, the Concerned Women of America, the Christian Coalition, and the Campaign for Working Families; a 92% from the American Conservative Union; and an A+ from the NRA.

Vote for Duncan Hunter.

[houser123]

I do hope that we do not get caught up in these ''BUZZ WORDS" this election cycle. ''Change'' what does that mean exactly. It means absolutely nothign without hard concrete statements say what they will change, in what direction the change is planned and how the change will occur. My money is on experience everytime. The new kids on the block can have the best ideas, but its the experienced people who know how to take those iedeas from only plans to reality. Hopefully I will be able to vote for Obama in 2016. This year it is for Clinton. Passioned, experience and capable of running our great nation.

[clovisbuford]

"I don''''t like Edwards, he kinda dragged his poor wife who was supposed to have cancer treatments along his campaign trail." and "Edwards is accepting big bucks from his lawywers association and has had an affair, its in the news." You have obviously never heard elizabeth Edwards speak or hear her conviction on how she is gonna live her life. #2 You are supporting Clinton becaue of a rumor that Edwards has had an affair? I leave the logic of that one to you(ponders glass houses). As far as independents go ,if one runs it will probably be mayor bloomberg with Chuck Hagle as a running mate.I only know one thing at this point I won''t vote for any continuation of what has been a republican disaster .Corrupt government ala Abramoff, a doubled deficit in 8 years, the Katrina response, an elective war in Iraq, an overstretched military,a vanishing middle class, the rise of corporate power, the cost of health care, the number of unisured,etc. One should never trust the media blindly, they all have some inherent bias,some blatant, some by the nature of we are all human and marked by our personal experiences.

[clovisbuford]

"I don''''t like Edwards, he kinda dragged his poor wife who was supposed to have cancer treatments along his campaign trail." and "Edwards is accepting big bucks from his lawywers association and has had an affair, its in the news." You have obviously never heard elizabeth Edwards speak or hear her conviction on how she is gonna live her life. #2 You are supporting Clinton becaue of a rumor that Edwards has had an affair? I leave the logic of that one to you(ponders glass houses). As far as independents go ,if one runs it will probably be mayor bloomberg with Chuck Hagle as a running mate.I only know one thing at this point I won''t vote for any continuation of what has been a republican disaster .Corrupt government ala Abramoff, a doubled deficit in 8 years, the Katrina response, an elective war in Iraq, an overstretched military,a vanishing middle class, the rise of corporate power, the cost of health care, the number of unisured,etc. One should never trust the media blindly, they all have some inherent bias,some blatant, some by the nature of we are all human and marked by our personal experiences.

[nottellin1]

Anyone knows the link to it? Let us see what kind of bull$hit they all are trying to feed us.




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Posted by nikosk1 at 11:54 AM : Jan 10, 2008

usa.gov

[nottellin1]

I wonder if Ron Paul would consider an independent run if he does not get his party''''s nomination...Too bad he has not done well in Iowa and New Hampshire...but if by some miracle an independent won the presidential election then perhaps "DCHANGE" would be hammered into the two mainstream parties!


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Posted by ozilot at 11:40 AM : Jan 10, 2008

Let us hope that he doesn''t run independent, That would split the Republican vote and ensure another Clinton in office. Just like RP #1.

[nottellin1]

Oh, you KNOW the media is trying to manipulate this country. They''''ve got to justify the unwholesome mentality of living they''''ve brainwashed Americans into living.


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Posted by Hwy71So at 07:46 AM : Jan 10, 2008

Yeah, and has anyone else noticed that so much of our news is no longer new? Lately, again and again I am hearing reports for the first time about something that happened 2 days earlier. Sup with that.

[Samjia]

Great, now the news medias are working for the campaign hacks for Obama, who was polled that he would win are living in Iowa or Mars!!

People are not fooled by the " Change" word. Obama teamed up with Edwards to defeat Hillary, and they lost. So what has changed, its the gang mentality of men beating up on one single woman. What strength have they shown by this?

The old boy''s club is back and the fellas had to gang up on the one woman who represents leadership because they were too weak indivually to take her on.

Shows me how insecure they are. I don''t like Edwards, he kinda dragged his poor wife who was supposed to have cancer treatments along his campaign trail.

What was more important to him family values!! yeah right or his own political ambitions, he did not stop his campaign for one women ...his own wife...so how would he treat his opponent who happens to be a woman the same chauvaistic ..egotistical way.

Obama, has some shady real estate deals to explain, and he is sitting under Oprahs skirt, what a sissy.
He has a diploma with no experience, and now Kerry another loser is backing him. Hummm....that makes 2 losers. Hillary has the brains to run this country, not tweedle dumb and tweedle dee.

Edwards is accepting big bucks from his lawywers association and has had an affair, its in the news.

Kerry is a loser....so is Obama.

[taddles-2009]

"But a traitor to this country in trying to incite dissention in the military.

Posted by Hwy71So at 10:58 AM : Jan 10, 2008"

You''re an idiot. You''re still spouting that bull$hit "swiftboat" *** from ''04. Grow the f*&k up you pin-head.

[taddles-2009]

"They both raise expectations, and encourage complacency.

Posted by oleander8 at 11:44 AM : Jan 10, 2008"

Bravo! Well put.

The pundits and media with their no-brainer polls are a joke. Stop posting foolish pre-election polls, stop with the juvenile "sound-bite" mentality of reporting, start doing your job! Just the facts please!

[classicdoc]

I think Paul has done remarkably well, considering that his positions on the issues (individual liberty, obey the Constitution, non-intervention abroad) have been outside the political "mainstream" for quite awhile. It takes time to get the message out and get a hearing for it. On a third-party run, I think it depends on the Dem candidate. If we get Clinton vs, say, McCain, then you have two war-mongers and Paul would be a clear choice for many. If Obama gets the nod, he is sufficiently anti-war that there would be less of a niche for Paul, and if Paul did take enough votes from Obama we''d end up with Bush-on-steroids.

[oleander8]

"For all the breast-beating and soul-searching being performed by the political elite over why we so badly..."

I couldn''t be more pleased by the ''political elites'' embarrassment. The pontificating, pompous pundits need to back-off and let the process play itself out. The polls and the pundits are harmful to our election process. They both raise expectations, and encourage complacency.

[classicdoc]

Running for president takes real talent. Too bad it''s not the same talent as needed to BE a good president. Top candidates are so primped and primed and quick with smooth soundbites and perfect body language. They position and market themselves to appeal to special interests and constituencies as revealed by polls and focus groups. They speak all the popular words, like "change." They get in power and they trash the Constitution, tax more, spend more, control us more, get us into more wars.

Then there''s Ron Paul. Think about it.

[hwy71so]

And John Kerry backs him. He who was also all talk and no substance. But a traitor to this country in trying to incite dissention in the military.

[infidel_us]

Change. All Ubama ever says is ''change'' but nary a word as to what KIND of change! This guy is all mouth (and ears) and no substance.

[quatrops]

The MEDIA ! ! Right or Left. Religious or agnostic. Poor or wealthy. North or South. Red or blue.

It seems everyone, including most of us posters, want to blame the MEDIA when events aren''t to our liking. Frequently, we suggest the MEDIA has a hidden political agenda (which it occasionally does, but we put FAR too much emphasis on guessing what that agenda is).

The media''s main objective, like all corporate institutions, is to sell its product or service. Whether it''s the right-leaning owners or the slightly left-leaning writers/reporters/pundits, their motivation is, above all else, financial.

And they all know that the best way to achieve their goal is to report (or, sometimes create) CONFLICT or CONTROVERSY. That is what we, the readers/viewers, want to pay (directly or indirectly) for.

So lighten up on the media, folks. If you don''t like their product, stop paying attention! 98% of what they report is inconsequential anyway. In the time we save, we can do something nourishing and constructive with our lives.

[hwy71so]

mudrose, the thing is I can tell by looking at a person''s face, usually, when they''re talking down to me. So far, I''ve seen this look in these 4 candidates: Guiliani, Romney, Clinton and Obama. Thompson just looks confused all the time, McCain, well he changed his stance on at least one issue that I think is telling and important. Huckabee, I don''t know. But Guiliani, Romney, Clinton and Obama just look like they''re trying to play us.