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CBS's Meyer: "Change" Was Not The Force The Political Elite Thought It Was

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by rowdytexan2 January 11, 2008 1:41 AM EST
Actually I have said this all along. We don''t need change! What we need is to have our country fixed! We have a wonderful country. Our country basically has good moral fiber! Up until this last eight years, our country has had good direction.

Yes, there are many things that need to be fixed!

War, and war mongering
Respect for our Constitution
Close our borders and require those entering our country either to be registered guest or students--penalize employers who hire illegal aliens
A National Health Trust--get rid of insurance company profiteering--hold health care to costs and salaries
REgulation and taxation of big business--cut off big business tax loopholes
Welfare--quit paying people to stay home and have babies they can''t take care of--require anybody that gets entitlements to prove their citizenship
Term limits for legislators unless a minimum of 80% of a district''s voters agree they should stay in office--or unless they get a certain amount of their promises legislated--

Those are things I want to see fixed!

And I''ve always had hope...never could figure out why Obama kept preaching hope to me...Change, I don''t want change, I want fix.
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by mcv57 January 10, 2008 11:48 PM EST
The sorry truth is that %u201Cchange%u201D was merely a phantom conjured by the political elite - a nano-trend, a shorthand, a figment, a wild goose chase.

This article passage has stated the reality of politics so sweetly elegant. I praise the writer.

Are you reading this, IdlePugilist. This author and respected politic science analysis is saying: DOES NOT MATTER FOOL, WHO YOU PLACE IN THE WHITE, NO CHANGE FOR YOU FOOL. Is that plain enough for you, IdlePugilist?
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by tibu987 January 10, 2008 11:45 PM EST
And just what is wrong with using "change" as a political tool?
We want a change with the war in Iraq.
We want a change in the tax rate that will tax millionaires as they do the little people.
We want to change the porkmeisters in Washington, the old guard which accomplishes nothing more than the feathering of their own nests.
We want change in the way our schools and teachers are faltering.
We want change in the care of our infrastucture.
We want change our unsafe streets into safe streets.
And, I could go on and on.
Naive, perhaps, but "change" has to start at the top.


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by idlepugilist January 10, 2008 11:09 PM EST
The change America wants is simple, and it''s not about a pie in the sky dream about hope and utopia. We''ve been lied to, cheated, and dumped in a war by Republicans who only want more of the same. Michael Dukakis could win against a Republican this time around.
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by starleo146 January 10, 2008 11:09 PM EST
when we get another republican president, we will be asking ourselves "what went wrong?" Okay, so we made Hillary the nominee, knowing full well that she''''s not electable. Many democrats will not even vote if she''''s the nominee. As AC360 says, "what are they thinking?". Open your eyes now and use your head, and not your heart. Let''''s not commit another folly. Hillary is NOT Bill, and never will be. She simply cannot be elected, so let''''s not squander this opportunity.

Posted by karutam at 08:04 PM : Jan 10, 2008
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Get use to it I do not know who the democratic nominee will be but no republican will be in the White House this Nov. do you see the people in droves screaming for change out there.You do not have a republican strong enough to win
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by starleo146 January 10, 2008 11:04 PM EST
It is the Economy Stupid and we need a change change change.
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by karutam January 10, 2008 11:04 PM EST
when we get another republican president, we will be asking ourselves "what went wrong?" Okay, so we made Hillary the nominee, knowing full well that she''s not electable. Many democrats will not even vote if she''s the nominee. As AC360 says, "what are they thinking?". Open your eyes now and use your head, and not your heart. Let''s not commit another folly. Hillary is NOT Bill, and never will be. She simply cannot be elected, so let''s not squander this opportunity.
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by starleo146 January 10, 2008 11:01 PM EST
We will see if John Edwards can take his home state, I do not believe he will, and if he does not, he needs to stop being a spoiler and get out of the race. If he wanted to do so much for the country, he is so passionate about as he says, why did he leave the senate after one term and start running for president. He is a good lawyer, but as a politician he is still wet behind the ears.
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by gretagreen January 10, 2008 10:44 PM EST
I like all the Democratic candidates. It''s going to be difficult to choose. I''m sorry Richardson dropped out and I sure do wish we''d see more of Edwards, but I really like Obama and think Hillary would do a good job. This is the best field of Dems we''ve had in years, and we need one of them badly. Sure hope we choose the right one.
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by pakaal January 10, 2008 9:45 PM EST
Right, it''s not change the voters want, it''s more of the same! That''s why after two terms of a Republican administration with a Republican Congress lock-stepping with them, we see results like this:

Total Votes New Hampshire
Clinton 110,550
Obama 102,883
McCain 86,802
Romney 73,806

Total votes Iowa
Obama 87,220
Edwards 72,980
Clinton 70,488
Huckabee 31,228

Sure, Democrat candidates are jumping ahead because America DOESN''T want change. Riiiiiight....
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by cfin5 January 10, 2008 8:33 PM EST
To Matter77: Yeah, you know, the middle can be a very satisfying place to be, until you find that the herd of cattle you''''re centered in is going over a cliff. This country was founded on priciples of limited government and non-interventionist foreign policy, from which the political pack has strayed far. Strange how a presidential candidate like Ron Paul who says obey the Constitution and stay out of foreign entanglements can be painted as some sort of extremist or kook.

Posted by ClassicDoc at 02:21 PM : Jan 10, 2008--------------I see Ron Paul as the only true "centrist" candidate. When someones public servitude behaves according to what the Constitution and Bill of Rights says and votes true to their constituency. I see nothing in a claim against that person as being some kind of crook, kook,...you name it. When our rights that we retain by these great documents are twisted by someones pet interpretation, this results in the rights being slowly confiscated. This very deed is in fact UNCONSTITUTIONAL!.......The 9th. Amendment says,.....The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.......Which of the candidates own voting record adheres to this rule?
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by lawyertom1 January 10, 2008 7:07 PM EST
When will the commentary class stop with the ridiculous generalizations and rationalizations? Get a life, and maybe a little scientific rigor to your analysis. This is pathetic.
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by cbs_oliver January 10, 2008 6:40 PM EST
Committment to something that he doesn''t claim is in the middle.
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by cbs_oliver January 10, 2008 6:39 PM EST
My experience is that Meyer always claims to be in the middle - to be independent - to be pragmatic.

He likes to assign each story a three point narrative with two discredited extremes and a powerful middle where he claims to hang out.

But his middle is always aligned with McCain or Bloomberg or some other right leaning and sort of elitist personality.

He makes a good argument that binary world views and conservative versus progressive models are usually wrong. He could even argue that they are sometimes dangerous.

But just once, I would like to see Meyer get off the fence and show some committment to something.
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by realpatriot1 January 10, 2008 6:33 PM EST
The change mantra may be empty but it''s still the job of the candidates to fill the vacuum, not abandon it.

The media and the Washington political establishment is lashing out at the concept of change because they don''t want to change a thing. They lie when they say the people don''t want change-voters want change, special interests do not.

The candidate who best fills the vacuum between now and the election in November will win. It will be about change because staying the course is not an option.
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by lindacohen7 January 10, 2008 6:27 PM EST
Obama,
Are you that desperate to ask John Kerry who has lost once before, to support you?
Oh %u2026.. Sorry doesn%u2019t work!

Is that kind of the president you wanna be? Keep making WRONG CHOICES!
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by hologram5 January 10, 2008 5:56 PM EST
If people want change then vote for Ron Paul, he will change the presidency back to what it was and what it is supposed to be. States running their own show with minimal Federal involvement. What the constitution states. VOTE RON PAUL for peace and freedom!!
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by classicdoc January 10, 2008 5:21 PM EST
To Matter77: Yeah, you know, the middle can be a very satisfying place to be, until you find that the herd of cattle you''re centered in is going over a cliff. This country was founded on priciples of limited government and non-interventionist foreign policy, from which the political pack has strayed far. Strange how a presidential candidate like Ron Paul who says obey the Constitution and stay out of foreign entanglements can be painted as some sort of extremist or kook.
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by greeneyes222 January 10, 2008 5:05 PM EST
I agree, "change" is just the latest patent medicine, covers everything and cures nothing.

Now, why won''t your fellow media types ask some hard questions instead of pushing this stuff?
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by clestes-2009 January 10, 2008 5:00 PM EST
For God''s sake!! These political pundits spend too much time analyzing and have wrapped their brains into a ball of spagetti!!

How the hell can ANYONE know anything yet?? There have been 3, count them now, 3 states that have had caucus or a primary. That is not even 1% of the American public.

Idiots!! They make up nonsense about what they THINK we think and don''t comment at all on the FACTS of the voters.

There are only a couple of KNOWN FACTS at this point.

1. Turn out has been very high.

2. So far the rep race is wide open and the dem race is close.

That is it!
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