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Dick Meyer: The Primary Campaign Is Over And The Candidates Are Bloodied Already

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by jowand November 23, 2007 8:39 PM EST
Another story written by a Hillary cheerleader, what a corrupt media.
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by quatrops November 23, 2007 6:05 PM EST
Yo geezer! Your point about the religious right is well taken, although a number of surveys indicate they may well be less involved in 2008 than previously. A recent article about their up-and-coming, younger leaders indicates an interest in getting back to their historic priorities, their "fundamentals" (no pun intended), with less emphasis on political action. I hope so!

Even so, it would serve the cause of sanity well if Giuliani is the Republican candidate. His stance on abortion coupled with his moral baggage will keep a lot of those folks home watching Trinity Broadcasting on election day.

I found your caveat about sounding "anti-religious" interesting. As a life-long Christian in a denomination that has led the fight for equality of women and against homophobia, I have never had any quarrel with those of other faiths or those with no institutional "faith" at all. My anger is directed towards the "religious right" who, with their self-rightous, pompous pronouncements on any number of issues gets the great majority of more tolerant and loving Christians painted with the same negative broad brush.
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by denn034 November 23, 2007 5:56 PM EST
Go Thompson.
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by nmsuip November 23, 2007 5:44 PM EST
In my line of work we refer to this as a "hold your nose compromise..." You hold your nose and pick the one that stinks the least.
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by geezer62 November 23, 2007 2:22 PM EST
Quatrops...
What an excellent post. I think you really nailed it. When you say we aren''t out of the woods yet I totally agree but for maybe different reasons. The fact that the republican smear machine is so effective spells troble for whoever the Democratic candid might be. Their ability to distort truth will no doubt play a part in smearing any candidate. Also, and I do not mean to sound anti-religious, the role of the religious right will be a big factor. When people vote based on issues like abortion and gay marriage, as they did in 2004, it takes away from important issues like education, health care, the economy and the enviornment. All of the above should be considered. Even though the numbers seem to come down on the side of the Democrats never, never count the Republicans out. Also, remlember that they have total control over right wing radio with a steady barrage of right wing rhetoric going on almost 24/7.
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by mistered9 November 23, 2007 1:56 PM EST
Can you imagine with this Iraq Muslim war going on, having a President name Barack Obama. You would feel we lost the war and Terrorist took over.
Which would probably be close to the truth.
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by marcodele November 23, 2007 12:50 PM EST
I think it was Woody Allen who said ''Americans always get the president they deserve.''

We have a sad selection to choose from. But if any of the Democrats decide to grow some cahunas, tell it like it is and take on the past eight years of failed philosophies then they will become president.
The entire neocon movement needs to be exposed for what it is: hypcrisy.

The sad fact is probably 80% of voters choose their candidate based on entirely irrational reasons. U.S. voters have become strongly irrational: ergo, George W. Bush Jr.
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by quatrops November 23, 2007 12:36 PM EST
dgwooster @ 8:56 thinks some voted for Bush because his daddy was president. That may have been so in 2000, dg, but by 2004 he had sufficiently demonstrated his incompetence and Cheney had classified almost everything in sight to cover up the neo-con and proto-fascist takeover, but it was still clear the inmates were running the asylum.

But in 2004, Karl Rove had framed the question and defined the terms so substantially that Democratic politicians (and 50% of the electorate) who stood up to the Republican PR machine were easily labeled "cut & runners", "cowards", and did not "support our troops".

But truth be told, it was those who voted for Bush in 2004 who were the cowards. They bought in to the myth of the "War on Terror" successfully parroted by the neo-cons. The package of FEAR drummed into them since 9/11 overwhelmed their common sense.

That 77% now believe Bush is on the wrong course is heartening, but we''re not out of the woods yet. I suspect that the 77% are fickle enough that when Cheney''s Nazis engineer another scare we could be back to the fear/coward dynamic again.

FDR''s warning about fear was never more true, and the neo-cons use of fear since 9/11 makes them, in my mind, despicable traitors and betrayers of the American dream.
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by brianbwb-2009 November 23, 2007 11:33 AM EST
Bloody? You call that bloody?

If I were the Democrat campaign strategist, the Republican candidates would make a case of Ebola look like a minor nosebleed, they have provided so much fuel that the wimpy Democrats have not taken advantage of.

To the DNC, if anyone reads these posts, I would give my services with a money back guarantee if you avail yourselves of my services and still lose.

Time is running out, however, you had better pull out heavier guns than you have so far, your little starter pistols stand little chance against the Republican financial, media, pseudo religious and racial nuclear weapons arrayed against you.
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by jetranger7 November 23, 2007 12:33 AM EST
I HEARD, THAT THERES A VIDEO CIRCULITING AROUND ON YOU TUBE (WWW.YOUTUBE.COM) THAT PARIS HILTON IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008 TOO !!! JUST WHAT I HEARD , ITS ON YOU TUBE I THINK !! GUESS YOU''LL HAVE TO SEARCH
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