Comments on: Hillary, Barack And Us

CBS' Dick Meyer Puts Voters On the Couch

[tejasdemo]

Man, Mr. Meyer is really throwing in the towel pretty fast on this one. Obama may have a chance only if all the Nascar yahoos wake up and realize that religious right Republicans dont have the courage of their convictions nor do they give a *** about anything other than their pocketbooks.

I would vote for Hillary but I dont thik she can win. The yahoos aint gonna let no women become Prezident and Tom Delay will come out of the woodwork to get them all riled up about it.

[processor2]

Both Obama & Clinton are terrible for the Democrat Party...neither would win

The Democrat that I would definitely vote for is Joe Leiberman

[cmayes2]

White america still don't think black people are ever smart enough, sad! sad!; and why do we always have to be second!!, it could be Obama/Clinton. But, I am an african american and democrat, and I will not be voting for hillary Clinton, even though I like her. Because me and my 100 voting family members will not stand by and allow a woman to get president befor an African american. Not yet Hillary!!

[cbs_oliver]

There you go once again, ***, claiming to be a middle ground kind of guy.

This claim to be a middle ground kinda guy is one theme that seems to appear in all your editorial writing and it just isn't true.

You really are a right wing kinda guy. You need to accept reality and be honest with yourself and the rest of us.

You may remember when you came out and foamed about how you really like the Republican John McCain.

You know your guy McCain is really a right wing ideologue and a liar/pretender.

He pretends to be for the constitution and against torture, but he has repeatedly sold out American freedoms, protections and rights.

Since he is your man don't pretend to give advice to the rest of us and especially not us Democrates about who we should support.

You are biased.

[ademeyer]

SO you can't figure out why Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton would want to run for President? And that's why we shouldn't nominate her? Why would Rudy, or McCain, or Newt want to run? Let's be honest, why would anyone want to run? It seems to me that of all of them, Sen. Clinton has the most experience with the office, she is well educated, and tempermentally suited to grapple with complex issues. I think that Mr. Meyer is searhing for an excuse not to accept her as a viable candidate, but I'd like to know where he is going to find the "perfect" candidate? And, looking back at history, when has there been a president that large portions of the population didn't find unacceptable? PS I loathed Reagan.

[samoh215]

The most important requirement of being a president is the brain. He/She should be able to analyze the inputs he/she gets from all sources. We are in this mess because the president could not and did not understand all sides.
Hillary has brain (may not have style). Obama may have just style. He has not proved himself at all. She will get the US moving....to the right direction.

[random_radar]

I foresee Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate in 2008 with Obama as VP. The question is whether they can win. If they do, it could set up a serious Obama presidential run in 2012 or 2016, depending upon whether Clinton served one term or two.

Could it happen? I don't believe that the majority of America is so sexist or racist that they would vote merely on that basis. If Clinton/Obama was the Republican ticket, I believe they would win. The problem is whether the mainstream of America would buy into the actual politics of electing Clinton.

I really think it comes down to the issues. Of course, it also depends on who the opponent is. McCain might be able to get Clinton elected by comparison. Bob Dole did that for Bill Clinton by running a defective campaign. Maybe the key to a Clinton victory is to get a defective republican candidate.

Oh, wait, we already have one in office. Maybe Bush still has enough time to make Americans embrace Clinton/Obamam in '08!

[jeauxbleaux1]

DogSoul, I totally agree with you about the minorities that have risen to power in Republican administrations. Watching Democrats and their mouthpieces in the media act like they are the only ones who truly care about African-Americans and Hispanics gets old.

Changeit4, it is not devastating for America right now. Unemployment is below 5 percent and we have a pretty strong economy. I do agree with you that the war is not going well. I think columnist Rich Lowry put his finger on the problem when stated something to the effect that "we are doing just enough not to win and just enough not to lose." I haven't bought the Vietnam analogy yet but if things don't improve it may be "Vietnam the sequel" unfortunately.

Finally, let's get real here. If Obama were white, the media would not be gushing over him the way they are. As I recall, Dan Quayle was in the middle of his 2nd term as a Senator when he was picked to be VP. He was crucified for his lack of experience (although I do concede he brought some of the criticsm on himself). Obama has only been a Senator for less than 2 years and you would swear we are observing the 2nd coming of JFK. Obama might turn out to be a good Senator and maybe even President one day. But, the double standard really irritates me.

[changeit4]

ANGRYliberal states that Dems operate on their emotions, but the very reason they lose or are impeached by Republicans is their lack of control of theirs.

Real-world problems aren't solved with concoctions of fear, strength, and patriotism, which is why W is a failure both here (let me count the ways) and abroad. And buying into that gets votes from the GOP and the ignorant. The ignorance I speak of is that borne of confusing what's good for yourself and what's good for America, another trait prominent among Republicans.

It cannot get more devastating for America than it is at present.

[cryonbrian]

I can just see it now? President Obama riding in the back of the presidential limousine when all of a sudden the Police stop and arrest him for carjacking! Then later they will say it was all a big misunderstanding! Only in America! LOL

[rdarmand]

I'm voting for Hillary. She'll be the first Democratic candidate I'll have ever voted for.

The most pressing issue that will be facing this country in the immediate future is Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. We need a President who is capable of fighting to win, not merely temporize. Hillary is flawed. I believe she is, at heart, an old-world Socialist, very far to the left. But she is brilliant, canny, tough, patient, self-sacrificing for a cause she believes in (look how long she put her own ambition on hold for Bill), and knows how to play with people she disagrees with -- plus, I think with her anger roused she can be a harpy from Hell. I want to turn her loose on those patriarchal ***********. They've forgotten the fury of a woman scorned ...

[creeper00]

geri2008a and other Obama promoters:

I am not interested in what Obama says. I am interested in what he has done. Which at this point isn't much.

Pretty words don't cut it. The disaster that is this administration got there on pretty words..."compassionate conservatism, affordable health insurance, no child left behind" and my personal favorite "restore full confidence in government."

Listen with half an ear to what they say. Look with a microscope at what they've done.

[dogsoul]

Oh please, look at Rice, Powell, Clarence Thomas, O'Connor, Estrada & a host of other minorities & women the Republicans have placed in positions of massive authority - and ya know what, THEY'RE QUALIFIED - chosen for their skills & experience... not propped up poster boards so we can look & feel "diverse" - and isn't that what it's supposed to be about? Although Republicans generally don't tout their better brand of inclusiveness because it's based on merit - it's worth noting at least to refute your racist claims that they're just WASPS supporting more WASPS...

[angryliberal-2009]

One must also understand that a presidential race may be to much for this young political virgin Barrack Obamma. He is worried about negative TV ads being run against him and he is self-conscious about his large protruding ears. And this guy wants to go up against Hillzilla? Hillary could bring a 400lb body building pit-fighter to his knees (in the political sense), let alone a skinny Giraffe-like lad Obama. I think Obama should get out before hillary starts her engine because the only reason hillary is not coming out of her cage right now is because she cleaning her weapons and choosing her ammo. Hillary will not let anyone stand in her way of the democratic nomination.

[creeper00]

Mr. Meyer,

All of your points are well-made. What I find fascinating is that what appear to be the top two Democratic candidates at the moment are a woman and an African-American.

Take a look at the list of WASPs wearing elephant buttons. Clinton and Obama may have their drawbacks but they're a damsite more representative of Americans today than John McCain.

In defense of Al Gore, who you state has "emotional issues," if you had received the majority of the vote only to find someone else taking office you might have some "emotional issues," too.

[angryliberal-2009]

But I do applaud Hillary on things she got right (patriot act, tax cuts, and the war in Iraq). I would take her in heartbeat if the presidential election were (GOD FORBID) between her and Obama.

[angryliberal-2009]

edjohn66,

But hillary kills babies, you should like that, right? She also wants guys to have sexua l relations with guys and legalize it, thats a democrat issue. She does agree with Bush on pardoning the illegal immigrants wich means she is for pardoning criminals.

[angryliberal-2009]

I bet Obamma is not even gonna run for president. He is trying to capitalize on the media's OBSESSION with him and sell more books, smart move. He would never ever have sold 400,000 books if the media wouldnt have had the Obammarama fest that they have been having. This guy has no real experience in the senate and the experience he does have is 100% liberal. And we all know Hillary is one of the scariest people in the senate. All you have to do is look deep into those protruding eyes to see that see is an emotional time bomb waiting to blow. Plus could you ever listen to her voice for more than three seconds at a time? And we all must remember that Hillary is Bill's husband... i mean wife. Hillary has constatnly made irrational statements, the most recent being "I dont believe anything George Bush says". Hillary operates off of her emotions, and we cannot have a president that thhrive off those impulses. The way I see it, if either of these clowns run it will be devestating for America.

[edjohn66]

I am a Democrat, so I hope a Democrat wins the 2008 nominationn for the Democratic Party.

What do I mean by this? Simple. Hillary voted FOR the war, FOR tax cuts for the rich, and FOR the Patriot Act both times. When the going gets tough, she is a Republican.

Obama's record my not be very deep, but I think its more in line with the Democratic Party.

Go Obama!

obama is also not perfect. His book talks about the long road he's had to success. In America, that long road used to stand for something.