Comments on: Torturing The Truth

CBS' Meyer: President Bush Has Lied And Continues To Do So

[cbsstinks4]

Meyers should go get a job at Al-Jezeera. I heard that disgraced liar Dan Rather is working there now.

Sleep deprivation is not torture.

Torture is watching Leftists so caught up in Bush hate that they are willing to aid the Islamist propaganda machine with lies about their own leaders.

Torture is the desire to betray the Iraqi people - whose country we turned upside-down (for a GOOD cause) for an off-year election Leftist power grab.

[getcentered]

You have been sensationalized! The anger and name calling coming from the right is all they have left. The GOP/right/conservative voting base needs to relieve themselves from blame for the thousands of needless deaths in Iraq. The GOP needs the folks that voted for Bush to stop feeling bad about having some responsibility for all the dead and injured US service men and women, and the civilian and child deaths and injuries. You all remember the term "Flip Flop" right? Now it is reverberating in the heads of all those GOP voters. See Rove made it a "sin" to change your mind. So what you have is a GOP voting public that is afraid to change their minds but need more talking points (like Clinton is to blame for 911)to be able to keep their justifications, for whatever policies, in reality. We have been divided, sensationalized and exploited. Get Centered! Get Real.

[illinois60-2009]

Does amyone out there remember 9-11? WTC '93? USS Cole? It wasn't Bush,Clinton,the Democrats,or the Republicans,it was al-Qaeda *** it! Can we all get on the same page before al-Qaeda (the ENENY) blows the hell out of us.......again?

[blueboyinthe]

You sir, are a factless reprobate with the stink of eastern liberal on your shoes...Facts talk and BS walks. If your nose wasn't tilted so high, you might recognize the smell. You are shameful in your assertions and might want to leave your shoes at the door next time you think you are thinking.

GLW

[catbell53]

Very irresponsible article on your part. Maybe facts, instead of accusations, would be more appropriate. This did not help CBS

[truthguys]

*** Meyer, you have lost me. I try, I really try. I think the only thing it will take to get you liberal Bush haters to get on board with this Terror war is half of Manhatten levelled by a al Quada Nuke... then you will hurt those "poor little Terrorists". Meyer you will never put this on the board... you moron.

[boulder1153]

I hardly ever write comments like this but really felt the need to do so here. You are a dangerous fool. We are at war with these terrorists who want to kill you, me and our families.
There has never been any proof shown by anyone that our government conducts torture. If we need to keep some killer up a few days to weaken him and have him give up information that literally would save lives, I say go do it and keep us safe.
You would be the first to write a column critical of Bush if another attack happens. You can't have it both ways. Your column is typical of why people don't take CBS news seriously. Poor Richard Salant must be turning in his grave.

[deanclemens]

You, *** Meyer, May not agree with the President
About what is torture and what is not torture, And that`s OK, becouse in this great country. That is what we do.Disagree. So what would you call it when they TORTURE and then chop off there heads? Now that is torture!! Thank You.

[nynative1340]

'Shrub' is living proof that you should listen to your parents.

[tylerdurdenq]

to the moonbats who continue to defend bush and his lies:

i am completely aware of the face that, in your eyes, admitting fault would be a crushing blow to your existence. even when the evidence is in front of you acceptance of the truth would mean admitting defeat.

Furthermore, does anyone else notice that conservatives are less likely to put together coherent arguments? It's not so much an intelligence thing as it is just saying catchphrases with 'freedom' or 'terror' in them so you can make your points.

War on 'terra' indeed.

[phijef]

You are a true patriot who loves his country and stands up for what is right. The President lied. It doesn't matter whether he did it to protect us (in his mind) or if it was for nefarious reasons (personal vendetta against Saddam). What matters is that the lied to us and continues to lie to us.

It is like a mother lying to her grown son. It isn't cute anymore. The son needs to be told the truth. Otherwise it looks as if the mother is lying just to protect herself and not her son.

[dnamj]

Thank you for this. Y'know, sooner or later the truth will come out about all of this, whether everyone likes it or not. We need to abide by international law, even when dealing with murderers.

[sharncedar]

"please put into your words (cheap as they might be) what America should be doing after 9-11"

The answer to me was obvious at the time. We should have treated it like other terrorism acts. Terrorism is a law enforcement problem. The closest analogy we have in modern times is the mafia or other gang crime. We need to infiltrate the organizations, prosecute, turn witnessess (not through torture), and dismantle the organizations involved through patient and diligent use of legal means. Each legal trial of a caught terrorist would discourage hundreds of others, since for these guys their greatest fear is not death but to be contradicted and shown as being ignorant in a public forum.

Bush's response to 9/11, many people believe, had nothing to do with combatting terrorists but was a power grab by a group of extremists who had been plotting various wars for many years. The plan for the war in Iraq was in circulation for years before 9/11. If this is true, it is a criminal act, I think most defenders of Bush are good Americans who have been misled and they will certainly want to prosecute him and his gang when they fully understand how he misused 9/11 and left us vunerable to terrorists.

[darthstar_99]

Well said...bush is a liar, and the bottom line is this: Noone believes you anymore, Mr. President. Period.

[bproberts1]

Mr. Meyer, please put into your words (cheap as they might be) what America should be doing after 9-11....You didn't take an oath, the President did, and while his actions are difficult for all Americans he is trying to live up to the oath...words as eloquent as they may be, they are easy,cheap, and often untrue. Just listen to all the words used at the United Nations and where are we? And yes you may be speaking FACTS but they are still just words which bend, distort, and "signify nothing"...

[jshudson2]

By the standards of the treaties we (the United States) have signed with other nations we clearly DO torture people. And yes, these standards can (and do) include sleep deprivation and "scaring" people.

Bush has simply changed the definiton to suit his own purposes, but that doesn't change the reality that he supports and encourages the torture of innocents.

[susannesd]

Why doesen't meyer just admit he hates the U.S. and what it stands for. Torture consists of physically abusing a person. I am sure he & Rather will be the first people to complain when another attack occurs against Western culture. But then of course they will say it's the West's fault. Reading the editorial reminded me why I obtain unbiased news via the web(NOT CBS) and the Wall Street Journal . The Journal is more reliable & unbiased, doesn't spread outrageous, irresponsible propaganda and is published for readers who think on their own and base viewpoints on fact, not emotion.

[tonydebock]

What is wrong with you????
keeping a person awake is not torture, playing music is not torture,scaring a person is not torture. If you want to see torture go to Iran, United Arabic Republick,china prisons.
The information gained is well worth there discomfort,But aperantly you hate Bush so bad you do not care to save American lives.

[avgeno]

INeedNews

You are right...I was wrong. I allowed anger, anger the brews daily with this administration, to rule this conversation. I allowed it to put forth an arguement on torture that in fact is not of my thinking or belief. I just found it absolutely amazing that there are those who can sit back and defend a statement by GWB knowing full well that it flies in the face of being truly absurd.

[ineednews]

avgeno, I understand your anger and desire to protect fellow Americans but why always assume the nature results of torturing some captured person is the disclosure of some nefarious plot that will save lives? What would you say if virtually all torture yields nothing and more often than not will be perpetrated against innocent people?