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[bildooreilly]

Jan 29th, COLORADO SPRINGS (AP) %u2014 The former male prostitute whose accusations against New Life Church founder Ted Haggard led to Haggard's dismissal as pastor has paid a visit to the megachurch.
Mike Jones, who has a forthcoming book, told The Denver Post that several people shook his hand during the visit Sunday and told him, "God bless you."

"I had read a lot about the church, but there's nothing like seeing it for yourself," Jones told the paper. "It wasn't to rub anyone's face in it by any means. I was wanting to get some perspective, to see where they are coming from, what the magnet is."

Haggard resigned last year as president of the National Association of Evangelicals after Jones alleged Haggard paid him over a three-year period for *** and sometimes took methamphetamine during the encounters.

Haggard then was fired as pastor of the 14,000-member New Life Church. He publicly admitted in November to unspecified "sexual immorality."

In an apology to the church, Haggard had urged members to forgive and thank Jones for exposing deceit. Church members invited Jones to the church several times.

[devante1995]

Hypocrisy of Marital Relationships: So many Christians try to rationalize this but it is clear that a true follower of Jesus can neither divorce someone nor marry someone who is divorced. There is an exception to the rule, however. If spouse commits adultery, divorce is permissible. On the same token, the Bible also says that anyone who obtains a divorce and marries another is in adulterer. Remember that 80% of this country is Christian yet we have a 50% divorce rate. A majority of divorces are a result of irreconcilable differences, not adultery, which implies that Christians are again practicing selective morality. How many Christians are working on a second, third or fourth marriage?

[devante1995]

Christians, they love to talk about how loving, dutiful and compassionate they are, yet I have yet to meet ONE who does not practice hypocrisy to the highest degree. Their willful ignorance of the Bible combined with their two faced idealism to preach it, has made us sick, hasn%u2019t it? For nearly two thousand years Biblicists have been lecturing people on the importance of adhering to the Bible%u2019s teachings on ethics, manners, and morality. They quote Jesus and Paul profusely, with a liberal sprinkling of Old Testament moralism. The problem with their approach lies not only in an oft- noted failure to practice what they preach, but an equally pronounced tendency to ignore what the Bible itself, preaches. Christians practice what can only be described as %u201Cselective morality%u201D. What they like, they cling to and shove down other%u2019s throats; what they don%u2019t like, they ignore vehemently. That which is palatable and acceptable is supposedly applicable to all; while that which is obnoxious, inconvenient, or self-denying is only applicable to those addressed 2,000 years ago. Their hypocrisy is so rampant that even the validity of calling oneself %u201CChristian%u201D is in question.

[devante1995]

1st. Commandment, Exodus 20:3 %u201CThou shalt have no other gods before me%u201D. Old Testament punishment - Deuteronomy 17:1-5 %u201CAnd hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heavens, which I have not commanded. Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing and shalt stone them with stones, till they die%u201D. Deuteronomy 13:6-10, %u201CIf thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is of thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. Thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God." Exodus 22:20 %u201CHe that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed%u201D. New Testament punishment - Mark 16:16 %u201CHe that believeth not, shall be damned%u201D.

[devante1995]

There are many Christians and Jews who demand that the Ten Commandments should be displayed in public institutions. In my opinion it is only fair that if the commandments are to be displayed, so should the penalties for breaking those commandments. Matter of fact they should be posted in its entirety so that society can see just what kind of *** these religions are feeding us. I also encourage those of you Judeo/Christians who visit here to print out this very list and post it where your children can see it. It%u2019s time you explain to them what a murderous, unjust god you brainwash them into worshiping.

[bildooreilly]

Devante 1995, it's even more sinister than that lol.. For example if you can still find some photos of Rev Haggards followers, they're all doing all these weird gestures that come from things like hinduism, buddhism, freemasonry, etc etc... These megapreachers are using eastern brainwashing tactics on their "followers" just like Adolph Hitler did on Germany. They're having their minds controlled, there were a bunch of "Gurus" in the 70's and 80's over here doing the same thing to the hippies... They'd take all their money, their homes, then they'd get the blessing of their Guru coming over to visit and driving past them in his gold plated rolls royce. People have no idea what they're exposed to day in and day out and it isn't just churches who are using these mind control techniques, although they and hollywood seem to be leading the pack.

[reel-crazy]

Simply put, the advertising blew it for the church. If this had been going on for 15 years, I would think all the members of the church would already know about the yearly event and there would be no need in placing it on their outdoor announcement sign. Replacing the "fee" wording with merely just passing a basket around at halftime for donations would also have been wiser. As far as the NFL's rules on 55" screen limitations, they can kiss my hind end. I will show ANY program on ANY size screen I wish in my own house AND to whomever I want... I am sure they have screens larger than that, too.

[devante1995]

RELIGION IS A JOKE! Minsters drive expensive cars, rape kids, have *** the congregation, get tax right offs, use scare tatics for the own agenda, remember Jim Jones, Jim Baker, Ted Haggard, the Colorado minister who resigned and is the presidents religious advisor, told reporters he bought drugs and received a massage from Jones. The Rev. Ted Haggard, the Colorado minister who resigned as president of the National Association of Evangelicals, admitted that he bought methamphetamine and received a massage from a male prostitute. Rev Haggard is married, Haggard, 50, who is married and has five children, stepped down from leadership both of the NAE and of New Life Church, the 14,000-member congregation he started in his basement 22 years ago. His resignation followed accusations by Mike Jones, 49, a male escort who said Haggard paid for *** about once a month for three years.
HERE IS ONE OF YOUR LEADERS, GOING DOWN LITERALLY! THANK THE PLANET FOR ATHEIST!

[devante1995]

The Denver Post reported that Rev. Paul Barnes resigned on Sunday from his 2100 person evangelical megachurch after "confessing" in a 32 minute video that he had had *** with men during his marriage.

[bildooreilly]

I'd just like to know who the whiny liberal sheet was that saw the church ad and turned them in.

I imagine it was one of those bars you people are always messing with, with your no smoking laws and other BS...



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Who else would give a "flyin sheet" what a bunch of church goers do in their building.

Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Obama can use church services for whatever, but you try to bring in a few new prospects to your local church with a super bowl party and snacks and ppffffftt.
Posted by dontbasucka at 12:22 PM : Feb 04, 2007
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