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No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
He, Anwar Awlaki declared war on USA constantly, google him.
Anwar Awlaki said kill Americans, google him.
THE V AMENDMENT ABOVE STATES IF YOU ARE AT WAR OR PUBLIC DANGER , THE GLOVES COME OFF!
"except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger"
IF you declare war, carry out threats by bombings etc, then he was at war.
I asked you to google this guy. Since you are closed minded and need some schooling...
Anwar Awlaki HARBORED SOME OF THE HIJACKERS OF 9/11.
THEY MURDERED OVER 2900 AMERICANS.
Google this guy and learn something.
If we had understood the real plans of Bin Laden and sent him and his gang to hell in early 2000, the WTC would most likely not be a big hole in the ground, and 3000 Americans (and about 200 honarable muslims would not have been murdered.
This guy gave up his american citizenship when he essentially declared war on the USA.
We are fighting a different kind of war - not for territory and natural resources. We need different institutions to fight it.
I agree with his killing, btw he was also directly involved in the failed plot to blow up a Jetliner over Detroit a couple years ago. I know almost certainly the mistake they made re the explosives, I was in the mil many years ago, I'm not going to say what if was for obvious reasons.
Our govt did a good job. The only way you make progress is to cut off the head of the snake, and let the blind remains fight with each other.
I do support we need a secret war court with some congressional oversignt in these situations. We do have it already re eg wiretapping, the FISA court. Which as of about 5 years ago had refused only a handfull of the requests for wiretapping out of 30000. And the law also allows the govt to immediately do a wiretap and then allows them up to 72 hours to explain to the court what and why.
We are in a fight for survival by maniac religious people for whom death is the only answer, in most cases, we would never be able to capture them anyway, we 'd only lose our own people, and then they would commit suicide if a battle was being lost.
What do we do if we found out that the al_quaida in Pakistan had gotten ahold of a small nuclear bomb, and it was going to be shipped her or Europe?
Maybe taking a country off the face of the earth would be justified as well.
Unless you want to see NYC or LA or DC a glowing smoking ruin.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
He, Anwar Awlaki declared war on USA constantly, google him.
Anwar Awlaki said kill Americans, google him.
THE V AMENDMENT ABOVE STATES IF YOU ARE AT WAR OR PUBLIC DANGER , THE GLOVES COME OFF!
"except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger"
IF you declare war, carry out threats by bombings etc, then he was at war.
Bush warned the world, no safe haven for terrorists, Obama warned the world, no safe haven for terrorists.
Where have you been for the last 11 years?
hairynews,
When did presidents become dictators with the right to kill anyone in any country? If we accept this, how long until it is done within our own borders? No trial, just suspicion and evidence only the ones ordering the killing are privy to?"""
hello? 9/11? what do you think that was?
This is asymetrical war, and the sooner we kill jihadi clerics inciting mass murder the better...
Waterboarding, the act of placing fabric over a prone prisoner's face and pouring water on it, causes no physical damage other than getting wet, and very scared. Murder is, well, murder.
So Holder is saying murder is ok if sanctioned by the Justice Department, but waterboarding, also sanctioned by the Justice department is a horrific act.
Can this possibly be so?
This guy that just got killed was an easy call, but there is a saying that bad cases make bad law...
...and I believe that this is a very bad precedent for the future.
So now we have a never ending war against "terror" (whatever that means) with neither no end in sight nor any idea of what constitutes victory in this war and the President of the United States has the authority: (1) to hold people (uncluding American citizens) without trial indefinitely; (2) to torture them; and (3) to just kill them.
What the hell happened to the U.S. Constitution?
As an American citizen, I never thought that I would live to saee this and I am sorry that I have.
sheesh, I cannot believe the comments here. we have to kill these people before they kill our children...
the guy is delusional> its the middle class and upward mobility thats being destroyed by the large corporate ****** who ship good jobs overseas for more profits. While giving the PRC etc more profits. Whether they will become friend or enemy in the long term is to be seen.
BTW in 1980 the top 1% of the population took home 9% of the national income, probably appropriate.
Current statistics say its now 23-24%. Outrageous. Mr. Donners must be hypnotized and subliminally mesmerized by the FOX news network.
Just another greedy group where doing a $35 billion gross biz is not enough.
Its so interesting to note that Fox is banned in Britain (Murdochs home) and in Canada as well.
insane... ron paul blew it.
I am certain that true Americans are taught about Constitutional exclusions in lieu of grammar in primary school
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."
It's a dead cert that this guy was witnessed by at least two other people but it's equally certain they'd never end up in a US court to testify against him.
More recently there were the issues of British and American citizens who joined the Nazi army or one of its offshoots. I freely admit I'm not a lawyer but I doubt any GI or Tommy who faced one of them would have thought about their rights for more than half a second before pulling the trigger.
If a man is walking down the street, pulls out a gun, and starts shooting people, do you advocate subduing him instead of shooting him as quickly as you can? There are times when people Ned to be eliminated as quickly as possible which supersedes the right to trial of a citizen. This man renounced his citizenship by his actions against our nation. So should we wait for him to send a formal letter of refusal to be a citizen? Send in personel and endanger their lives so we can subdue and try him? Eliminating him in this fashion is the best wAy to limit innocent lives and put fewer people at risk.
How simple can it be made for you that a person cannot be convicted of treason without two witnesses or a confession in an open court? I will settle for something less than two witnesses and/or even confession, if the preponderance of the evidence proved he was guilty of what he stood accused of.
@dlegr
Accusation is not equivalent to guilt, especially when the accuser is a shady government like that of the U.S.
Such is the sad state of affairs in the United States today. Who needs reason and logic when there are the evil Republicans or Democrats to oppose.
We could have taken Bin Laden out years ago under Clinton's presidency. This is a rather ridiculous point to try and say we should re-elect Obama because of this. If you want to get technical about it, it was the intelligence forces put in place by Bush who hunt these criminals down and help us eliminate them. The President doesn't do anything other than say yes/no to certain decisions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_September_11_attacks
I suggest anyone who is against killing guys THAT DECLARED WAR ON USA and killed people take a momment and think.
Now that you have thought about it, now you can call the parents or survivors of these babies and kids killed on 9/11 and ask their opinion.