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- At least Dubya like his predecessor, former VP Al Gore, has abided by the code of "honor" by not speaking about the next administration's policies for at least 1 year!!
But nooooo......not Dickey Cheney. He has to go on FoxNews, the day after Senator Kennedy's funeral, and spew his "opinions" to shamelessy plug his book, to the detriment of all American citizens. - Reply to this comment
- I believe that McCain is right minded, he truly opposes the torture that Cheney decided was necessary to safeguard this country. He has to, he experienced this stuff first hand himself. But!!! We can't turn our backs and let those responsible off the hook. And for me that means we start at the top - Bush (by nature of his listening to evil people), Chaney, et al. this needs investigation and resolution. period.
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- Hatred breeds hatred. If we torture 100 people and yield several thousands more in doing us harm, I cannot see the merit of such actions, legal or not. If we resort to torture, it tells our enemies we are desperate and have run out of intelligence channels to go after them. That is what keeps me awake at night, and torturing people adds blemishes to our conscience as well as our history books. I see no problem in realigning our government's checks and balance, a system set by our founding fathers for which we stand, and which our previous government has grossly violated.
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- They were not selling out our heritage, these soldiers were in fact putting their life on the line torturing these crepes who would like nothing better than to come over here and blow your sorry behinds to smitherings, why? because they hate you & me, America. These things that these soldiers do, helps all of us to be able to sleep in peace tonight; How about Obama standing behind these soldiers doing their jobs, getting the information needed to be able to come to a close; we didn't want war; but war came to us.
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- I don't think that a man who couldn't climb into a cockpit without destroying the plane, or ship or whatever is around him, has any credibility when it comes to "mistakes".
The only mistake in this story is John McCain the Keating 5 thief. - Reply to this comment
- All law enforcement involves 'looking back.' Should we let Phillip Garrido go, because his abduction and rape of Jaycee Dugard was 'in the past'? Dick Cheney is a pathological lunatic. The balls of that man to sit there and declare the US was safer because we tortured people is insane. What about summary executions or making sex slaves of the daughters of our enemies? Maybe that would make us even safer? Lest we ever forget: 9/11 happened on their watch and George Bush sat, while the country was under attack, reading stories to children.
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- I am sick and tired of Cheney and the right wing wanna-be terrorists claiming that the Attorney General's probe will weaken our security and demoralize the CIA. I have been in situations where a small minority was breaking all the rules, pressuring me to do the same, and castigating me for not following suit. THAT kind of situation is demoralizing and that's exactly what went on at the CIA under Cheney & Co. Allowing that sort of situation to continue, without accountability is what will demoralize the CIA. For all of those CIA workers who actually followed the rules, seeing the wrong-doers held accountable will be nothing short of vindication for doing the right thing.
And this business about weakening our security is a joke. Torture leads to false information. The tortured will say whatever they think will make the torture stop, regardless of the truth. Wasting time on that sort of false information actually reduces our security. Torture also motivates and emboldens our enemies. As soon as the tortured's friends, family, countrymen, etc. find out about the torture, rather than sitting on the sidelines, they will be motivated to jump into the fray. That also weakens our security. It prevents us from winning the hearts and minds of those who would otherwise oppose us. And there's practically no way to keep torture secret. It will leak, be it through word of mouth between captives, leaks to the media, court proceedings, or the results of investigations into lawbreaking.
Bush, Cheney & Co. poisoned 2-3 generations of foreigners against us. We will have to deal with their hatred for a long time to come. And that, my friends was the ultimate assault on our security.
Finally, what exactly does Cheney think is ok for the CIA to do and when is it ok to look into what the CIA is doing? Apparently chaining them to the floor and forcing them to lie in their excrement for 18 hours at a time isn't enough. Apparently threatening to rape detainees mothers isn't enough. Apparently wiping menstrual blood on them isn't enough. Apparently forcibly drugging them isn't enough. Apparently beating them isn't enough. Apparently drowning them isn't enough. Apparently threatening to kill them isn't enough. And based on some reports, apparently actually killing them isn't enough. He's on a slippery slope that leads straight to Hell. When do people just simply react with disgust to anything Cheney & Co. has to say? - Reply to this comment
- Winston Churchill once said "If you are under 30 and not a liberal, you don't have a heart, and if you are over 40 and you are not a conservative, you do not have a brain".
So, for all of you liberals responding on these message boards, if you are under 30 you have an excuse (sort of) and hopefully as you grow and mature, pay taxes, raise a family, etc you will develop a brain. For those of you who are liberals and in between 30 and 40 you get a partial pass because your 30's is when you transition and actually gain some wisdom. If you are over 40 and are still a liberal, I think Winston Churchill has an apt description. - Reply to this comment
- I've wondered often where all the Obama voters and supports go for their message boards, their comments and rants. Geez, I think I've found out now. Okay,so ignore me... Oops, not my crowd. Man just passing through here.
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- You know what I like best about John McCain? The fact that he's not president, and that he made it abundantly clear in his campaign that he will throw away every last vestige of honesty and integrity in the pursuit of political power and an increased public profile. It makes it so much easier to ignore him when he says dumb crap like this.
HEY JOHN. YOU WERE TORTURED, AND YOU SPOKE OUT AGAINST TORTURE FOR YEARS. Congrats on selling out another one of your "deeply held principles" the second it becomes politically expedient, you worthless old poop. - Reply to this comment
