Comments on: Levin: Bush Won’t Allow Big 3 To Collapse

Senators Say President Can Rescue Automakers And Avoid A Legacy Of Bankruptcy "With A Flick Of A Pen"

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by tallinson December 14, 2008 10:11 PM EST
The big question is...ARE THEY WORTH SAVING? There is at least one upstart auto company in this country that, in my opinion, is far more worthy of consideration for government assistance though, as far as I know, they are not, presently, in need of help. That, alone, makes you wonder about the "Big" little three!
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by bread57 December 14, 2008 9:47 PM EST
The market continues to try doing what the market does, which is weeding out the unfit. And Congress keeps f***ing it all up by preventing the carnage that MUST take place. NO COMPANY is too big to fail. Let all who cannot survive, die. The victors--be they Wells Fargo or Honda Motor Co.--will dance on their graves. Inferior products will cease to exist. Incomptent management will blow away. Excess capacity will be reduced, and those companies whose workers were paid sustainable wages and whose executives came up with sustainable business models, product lines and investment strategies will inherit the earth. People, that''s how Capitalism works! We''re gonna end up with a much larger mess if Congress or the Executive Branch keeps monkeying with the market. Let the market alone and endure the short term pain for a long-term healthier, more productive economy!
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by tincup356 December 14, 2008 9:42 PM EST
I guess all the party liners are having a hard time finding anything congress is doing for anyone,,,except those who have lobbied Washington so heavily over the years. Silence says it all.
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by wl7bzh December 14, 2008 9:35 PM EST
Do the words "pouring money down a rat hole" sum up the situation with the Big 3?
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by tincup356 December 14, 2008 9:21 PM EST
What I would like to see is instead of people bragging about what the other party did to cause this....ask why are we trusting the same crooks that contributed to this mess instead of holding them responsible ....we reward them?...that is insane thinking...or.... part of a plan to flat steal the nation blind .People better start questioning why NEITHER party is doing nothing for the people of the middle class who are losing everything? Just remember the people ignoring you are the same ones who took an oath to represent you and protect the constitution and the interests of Americans.....What they are doing is committing treason, and No one who supports either party wants to admit it,,,that is called denial,,, but it doesn''t change reality.
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by caldwellptr December 14, 2008 9:16 PM EST
Have you gotten your pay cut for America yet?
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by tincup356 December 14, 2008 9:03 PM EST
both of you peoples parties are hard at work....but not for you. So would someone tell me How is your party helping you and the middle class or lower for that matter ...right now? besides giving false promises as usual ...what are they actually doing? Lots of money flying around...but is ANY of it helping the situation that average citizens are facing...NO.
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by peterandrew3 December 14, 2008 8:40 PM EST
I can''t believe Bob Schieffer didn''t call Senator Levin on his outright lie. It is absolutely a lie to say that republicans prevented the auto bailout in the US Senate from passing and he knows it and so does Bob. Democrat US Senators could pass this without one single republican Senator''s vote!!! So, who are the democrat senators who prevented this from passing? Why won''t Schieffer point this out? Why are they covering up for these dems? Why couldn''t Reid and Durbin get their own party to vote for the auto bailout in the Senate? This is very frustrating when a national news reporter fails to question someone on such a huge lie. Schieffer should be ashamed of himself.
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by jsd330 December 14, 2008 8:31 PM EST
56.7% more compensation then a university professer with a phd.
posted by robaldrich 4 4:34 Dec14
Then why is college so expensive? And colleges make sure it takes longer then 4 years to get a BA, by class scheduling. How many hours a day does that phd work? I''ll bet it''s alot less then 8.
That phd has all summer off if he chooses, plus all the holidays Christmas break, Easter break. Thats like comparing apples to oranges. I notice that according to your figures toyota, nissan and honda workers make more then a phd does to. phd,mba,ba ect. those people made their choices, they didn''t want to get dirty, break a sweat or do manual labor.
That piece of paper doesn''t mean a whole heck of alot anymore, because we told our children they had to go to college and get a degree. Now the market is flooded with college grads, so company''s can pick and choose and pay whatever they want, and most of the time it''s the lowest on the pay scale.
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by hitoyou11 December 14, 2008 8:24 PM EST
kevsan1: I do work for the NO GOOD SCUM BAG UAW. So stop talking out you buy. Thay is what you are talking with. I would no work for the LAZY NO GOOD OVER PAID LAZY SCUM UAW.
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by hitoyou11 December 14, 2008 8:22 PM EST
zzy-izzy. I make more then "ANY" UAW Menber. I said I had a UAW card, I don''t'' and would not work for the UAW. I would have to take a pay cut.
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by tincup356 December 14, 2008 8:20 PM EST
before the traitors in Washington get through some of you will wish you could find a job making a dollar.
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by usgeneral-2009 December 14, 2008 8:15 PM EST
"Auto Bailout Now A Must, Says White House"

Really?

Consider the other White House "musts":

We must invade Iraq to remove WMDs and prevent a mushroom cloud over America
We must invade Afghanistan to get Osama
We must give tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires to ensure a robust economy
We must have a $700 Billion TARP Bailout or we''ll all die

Old school: Crying "Wolf" -- New School: Crying "Bailout"

When will "we" learn from these "must" blunders?
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by tincup356 December 14, 2008 8:14 PM EST
We didn''t have to send factories to Mexico to lose jobs to workers there ...they all just came over here, a shining example of how good homeland security has protected our border.
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by tincup356 December 14, 2008 8:12 PM EST
to robaldrich4, just where does the middle class sit dollar wise in your eyes?What is the bottom and what is the top? and your wage amounts for the auto workers includes benefits so that is not a good number for wages.they don''t actually make 70 an hour.Waste is when you pay an exec. 5 million a year that figures out to about 2400 an hour is that a reasonable wage compared to 30?
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by zzy-izzy December 14, 2008 7:50 PM EST
hitoyou11 why are you not working and making the big bucks.
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by kevsan1 December 14, 2008 7:48 PM EST
hitoyou11, you may be a lazy UAW card holder, but I know many who are not and many more people, who are not UAW members, will be affected by this. I know several people personally who have been let go this year (two within the last week) because business is way down and it is affected by the health of the auto industry. Find somebody near you to smack some sense into you!
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by wardoglrs December 14, 2008 7:48 PM EST
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Sam Adams

Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.
Thomas Jefferson

The problems we face today cannot be solved by the minds that created them Albert Einstein

Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves. David Henry Thoreau


*** Cheney was questioned on ABC about whether the fact that two thirds of Americans were opposed to the Iraq War had any influence on decision-making, he basically said that the American people get to make their input every four years and after that they can be ignored.

Those who know nothing about history are doomed forever to repeat it. Will Durant

As the economist Dr. Stuart Crane was fond of saying, Things in the monetary world don%u2019t just happen to happen. They happen because they were planned to happen.

It is surely time for men to think for themselves, and to throw off the authority of names so artificially magnified.
Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Short, August 4, 1820 see Positive Atheism''s Historical section


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by zzy-izzy December 14, 2008 7:47 PM EST
Looks like the university professor went into the wrong field and let him take the three months of he has and get out in the heat in the summer and sweat his a$$ off and make some money like the people that work for a living.
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by fxstb00 December 14, 2008 7:39 PM EST
this looks like the republican senators trying to crush the uaw. why doesn''t the senators step up and slash their salaries and their unreal lifetime health care and full pay pension? who else in this country, paid by us the taxpayer, gets full pay for life as a pension, and the lifetime full healthcare as our employees, the congress?then, when it starts at the top let them ask the rest of us to take steep cuts.
and about the "junk the uaw makes", show me a 1955 toyota, nissan, mazda, or any asian car still on the road anywhere in the world. the american cars and trucks are just as good if not better than the asian cars today. their customers have been brainwashed.
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