Comments on: Obama: Now Is The Time For Iraq Withdrawal

Tells CBS News U.S. Cannot Wait For Next Administration To Make Afghanistan Central Focus Of War On Terror

[komoncents]

Barack Obama views, before the surge:
%u201CI am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse.%u201D
Barack Obama
January 10, 2007
Obama was dead wrong.
Posted by OneAmerican- at 06:00 PM : Jul 21, 2008

The wars have been a total genocidal failure, not too mention a really nasty trick to facilitate the largest transfer of wealth the world has ever known, from our pocket to theirs. Or maybe you haven''t bought gas in the last 5 years?

But I suspect if we kill enough people - exterminate as many as possible, we''ll eventually be able to convince the ones left opposed to bow down - I''d say about 200 years, 500 million dead people, and 800 trillion dollars oughta do it.

At least we''ll be able to say we have our freedom.

[komoncents]

As you can tell, I still support GWB. Your wrong about Clinton, I did not like him but he would have had my full support on Iraq. That is the difference between Republican''''s and Democrat''''s, when it comes to foreign policy that deals with tyranny many Republicans would have set aside their dislike of the President because we knew how important ousting Saddam was. On the other hand, the Democrat''''s are so invested in villianizing our President that the world got a front row seat to the show and our liberal media took the stage. Man, they might as well sold popcorn.
Posted by ProMacLaura at 05:57 PM : Jul 21, 2008

"our liberal media" - not one major media outlet carried the story of Congressman Kucinich reintroducing Impeachment Articles against the preisdent just a week ago - kinda invalidates your theory of it all being a show, or even all of the media is against shrub, don''t it.

And judging by the very fact there were no wmd''s, it certainly wasn''t high on any priority list to remove a dictator we already had surrounded and disarmed. In fact it was like shooting fish in a barrel.

And if we''re gonna go around the world stopping injustice we should start in Africa where dictators routinely slaughter their people - but of course they don''t have any oil.

Your beloved president has villinized himself with the help of his co-conspiritors - illegally spying on americans, outing a cia agent, lying about wmd''s, the list goes on and on.

[bobnjersey]

[This only proves that it is hatred for GWB winning the elections that guide you and not common sense.]
[Posted by ProMacLaura at 05:10 PM : Jul 21, 2008]

it proves nothing. any hatred or dislike anyone has of this buffoon is based on his actions (or inaction) ... on his incessant lying and manipulation of the truth ... and on their never ending ideological motivation in everything they do.

on the other hand ... your tireless support of a complete and total failure is rooted in blind idealogical alignment and your ''authoritartian follower'' condition.

[oneamerican-]

Barack Obama views, before the surge:

%u201CI am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse.%u201D

Barack Obama
January 10, 2007

Obama was dead wrong.

[promaclaura]

All I can say is, if a Dem prez had done 1/10th of the lying Bush has done impeachment hearings would aleady be in full swing and a couple of hundred million $$ would have already been spent on the investigation.
Posted by talkingham at 05:30 PM : Jul 21, 2008

As you can tell, I still support GWB. Your wrong about Clinton, I did not like him but he would have had my full support on Iraq. That is the difference between Republican''s and Democrat''s, when it comes to foreign policy that deals with tyranny many Republicans would have set aside their dislike of the President because we knew how important ousting Saddam was. On the other hand, the Democrat''s are so invested in villianizing our President that the world got a front row seat to the show and our liberal media took the stage. Man, they might as well sold popcorn.

[jgg000]

but but but Afghanistan didn''''t have oil


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Posted by estabwary

no, afghanistan has mountains and caves known only to the tribesmen and horrible weather conditions that make fighting a war extremely difficult.

[komoncents]

I am glad to hear they were putting Saddam as a priorty. The no-fly zone was costing way to much money (billions) and just prolonging the inevitable. Stop being a Saddam supporter and realize the world and those he terrorized are better off without him. It is sickening that you would raise Saddam as a leader to keep in place, pretty easy to do when your not a citizen of Iraq. Cutting through the ***, the REAL evil is gone and we have our devoted troops to thank for that.
Posted by ProMacLaura at 05:42 PM : Jul 21, 2008

How childish, yet typical of the bush led sheeple to think you can put words in my mouth instead of arguing the facts - and it is you my poor deluded friend who is supporting the real evil. Next you can try ridiculing me for stating facts, instead of facing them. How sad and pathetic.

[komoncents]

All I can say is, if a Dem prez had done 1/10th of the lying Bush has done impeachment hearings would aleady be in full swing and a couple of hundred million $$ would have already been spent on the investigation. The Dem congressional leadership are complete losers for not investigating any of this. In fact, they might as well be called accomplices if they don''''t investigate!
Posted by talkingham at 05:30 PM : Jul 21, 2008

If a democratic president had lied 962 times in public, spyed on Americans in clear violation of the law, had outed a CIA agent for political gain, and was responsible for the genocidal killing of a million people for oil profit - he''d have already been tried for crimes against humanity and hung for treason.

Vote all incumbents out.

[promaclaura]

Many Bush administration insiders have told us publicly that this administration was planning the Iraq invasion in the first days of their regime.
Posted by komoncents at 05:17 PM : Jul 21, 2008

I am glad to hear they were putting Saddam as a priorty. The no-fly zone was costing way to much money (billions) and just prolonging the inevitable. Stop being a Saddam supporter and realize the world and those he terrorized are better off without him. It is sickening that you would raise Saddam as a leader to keep in place, pretty easy to do when your not a citizen of Iraq. Cutting through the ***, the REAL evil is gone and we have our devoted troops to thank for that.

[estabwary]

but but but Afghanistan didn''t have oil

[talkingham]

Remember Colin Powell lying in front of the UN, showing the phony portable WMD labs photoed by satellite (but of course our CIA and own air command couldn''t locate 4 jetliners with their transpsonders turned off on 911- nor did they bother to even try because they were in stand-down mode in a period of heightened terrorist threat!)

All I can say is, if a Dem prez had done 1/10th of the lying Bush has done impeachment hearings would aleady be in full swing and a couple of hundred million $$ would have already been spent on the investigation. The Dem congressional leadership are complete losers for not investigating any of this. In fact, they might as well be called accomplices if they don''t investigate!

[komoncents]

as far as any of us know our President did believe this info on WMD was fact, they searched all over Iraq for them. Your belief that our President lied is not based on fact, only opinion.
Posted by ProMacLaura at 03:43 PM : Jul 21, 2008

Donald Rumsfield showed us all on national TV the satellite photos showing the exact location of the imaginary wmd''s. The Downing ST memo clearly indicts the manipulation of the "intelligence" used to perpetrate 962 publicly repeatedly lies.

Many Bush administration insiders have told us publicly that this administration was planning the Iraq invasion in the first days of their regime.

And they imagine they''ve actually found the missing 757 airplane wreckage from the supposed Pentagon attack. (They can easily delude themselves into believing they actually see something the size of a football field.)

Look at the photos of the aftermath of the attack - I know they won''t see the unbroken windows only a few feet from where the 757 supposedly violently impacted the building.

How much evidence to the contrary of ProMacLaura''s statement will ever satisfy the blind followers of our criminal president?

There will never be enough, as some folks see the moon as made of swiss cheese. They stick their heads in the sand and plug their ears hoping to never face the facts.

[promaclaura]

if only you were clear on the underlying foundations of your tireless support of gwb. he''''s a failure ... he''''s a liar ... and he''''s responsible for the worst foreign policy disaster in american history.


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Posted by bobnjersey at 04:54 PM : Jul 21, 2008

I have been clear in by support of GWB, you don''t want to hear it. The only lies are the backtracking support from the Dem''s and their white-washed version of why they voted for the war. Plain and simple, without the "Bush Lied" mumbo jumbo, THEY ALL BELIEVED THAT SADDAM HAD WMD''S INCLUDING FOREIGN LEADERS AND SADDAM''S GENERALS WHO CALLED FOR USING THEM WHEN WE WERE CLOSE TO BAGDHAD. That is enough for me to doubt what you say. Even if it were true that they "fit" the information to call for war, that does not make me believe that the leaders of Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Israel, Russia, Iran, and so on were liars too. This only proves that it is hatred for GWB winning the elections that guide you and not common sense. I guess you should hate the rest of the world too for leading GWB in the wrong direction for supporting the belief that Saddam had WMD.

[bobnjersey]

[Please understand this is my opinion backed up by facts. Hopefully the Obamas will have good intentions when they decide to rule America.]
[Posted by Obama8years at 04:37 PM : Jul 21, 2008]

oh ... the flag pin ... no, no, not the flag pin.

the fact that you would list these absolutely ridiculous criteria (you call them facts) for the leader of the free world says it all.

[Why would a Magazine New Yorker print a Picture of Obama and his wife as Militants and the Flag burning. ]

why do you have to ask such a question? they did it to sell magazines ... they did it to make fun of fools like yourself who buy into all this nonsense ... they did it so others who think you''re a fool can laugh at you.

can you hear them laughing?

[yongamerica]

Lots of big talk from Obama,
considering that unless Iraq comes to some agreement with the US, ALL US troops must withdraw in December.

[bobnjersey]

[I read the memo, sorry to disappoint but it is not the devastating blow you would like it to be. There are arguements to the contrary of "fitting".]
[Posted by ProMacLaura at 04:45 PM : Jul 21, 2008]

nothing can ***** the armor of an authoritarian follower ... even blatant evidence and fact.

it''s clear in what it says ... if only you were clear on the underlying foundations of your tireless support of gwb. he''s a failure ... he''s a liar ... and he''s responsible for the worst foreign policy disaster in american history.

[promaclaura]

[Your belief that our President lied is not based on fact, only opinion. ]
[Posted by ProMacLaura at 04:02 PM : Jul 21, 2008]

the downing street memo states clearly that the bush administration ''''fit the intelligence to the policy'''' ... the policy being that they were going to invade ... the ''''fit'''' part was the lying and misrepresentation.

don''''t dare read the memo though ... it will be a devastating blow to your current belief.

Posted by bobnjersey at 04:13 PM : Jul 21, 2008

I read the memo, sorry to disappoint but it is not the devastating blow you would like it to be. There are arguements to the contrary of "fitting". I''m sure that our President did want to oust Saddam before it was brought forward to congress. Many of our leaders wanted to oust Saddam. The so called "smoking gun" theory is irrevelent when it is pointed out that Bush''s plan also called into play "what would we do if he used WMD during the invasion". That doesn''t speak of lying, it shows they actually believed it (even if the evidence was thin). Make a fast buck Scott McClellon stated that President Bush believed they had WMD. I guess Bush''s problem is he was gullible and way over protective of the USA, especially after 9/11.

[obama8years]

Hey Bob, check out these apples:

Why would a Magazine New Yorker print a Picture of Obama and his wife as Militants and the Flag burning. Could there be a subliminal message being sent.

1.Michelle did write an essay similar to what a black militant would write. Say a leader of the Black Panthers.

2. Michelle did say she is finally proud of her country.

3. Michelle said America is a mean country.

4. Barack has not in the past put his hand on his heart when saying the pledge allegiance.

5. Barack chooose not to wear a flag pin in the past.

6. Barack and Rev Wright have ISM associations and Hamas associations along with Farakahn.

So this picture may be outrageous in one aspect, however in an Ironic way it paints a perfect picture.

Please understand this is my opinion backed up by facts. Hopefully the Obamas will have good intentions when they decide to rule America.

[bobnjersey]

[Sadamn Huesain Mastered the English Language ... So whats your point.]
[Posted by Obama8years at 04:25 PM : Jul 21, 2008]

the discussion was about the presidency of the us. so unless saddam is coming back from the dead ... and is eligible for the us presidency ... what''s your point ... if you even have one.

[obama8years]

for starters ... he has mastered the english language by the time he reached his fourties ... which is a mile beyond where gwb was at at that point of his life.
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Sadamn Huesain Mastered the English Language.

So whats your point.