Comments on: GOP Hands Are Wrung Over Party Prospects

While Republicans Face Costly Losses In "Safe" Districts, Cuomo Deconstructs Voter Ire

[sgtrds-e4]

I''''m outa here Sarge.Going to go find Rowdy and give her some sshit.Care to join me?

Posted by jesterbelle at 09:48 PM : May 18, 2008

I''m sure I''ll be joining you in a bit. Dinner now though.

[lindaredtail]

I have to laugh at the Republican idea of not appeasing terrorists. One of their examples of a great President (Ronald Reagan) he didn''t "appease" openly. No. He just snuck around behind the scenes exchanging weapons for hostages.Weapons that may be some of the basis for the technologies that the Iranians have developed since then. Anyone not think that they know how to take things apart? We never hear about that part of it though. Are some of their advancements due to Iran-Contra? They have lots of nerve talking about appeasement. Talking is a lot less harmful and more productive than handing them weapons after they took over our embassy.

[lindaredtail]

I have to laugh at the Republican idea of not appeasing terrorists. One of their examples of a great President (Ronald Reagan) he didn''t "appease" openly. No. He just snuck around behind the scenes exchanging weapons for hostages.Weapons that may be some of the basis for the technologies that the Iranians have developed since then. Anyone not think that they know how to take things apart? We never hear about that part of it though. Are some of their advancements due to Iran-Contra? They have lots of nerve talking about appeasement. Talking is a lot less harmful and more productive than handing them weapons after they took over our embassy.

[lindaredtail]

I have to laugh at the Republican idea of not appeasing terrorists. One of their examples of a great President (Ronald Reagan) he didn''t "appease" openly. No. He just snuck around behind the scenes exchanging weapons for hostages.Weapons that may be some of the basis for the technologies that the Iranians have developed since then. Anyone not think that they know how to take things apart? We never hear about that part of it though. Are some of their advancements due to Iran-Contra? They have lots of nerve talking about appeasement. Talking is a lot less harmful and more productive than handing them weapons after they took over our embassy.

[lindaredtail]

I have to laugh at the Republican idea of not appeasing terrorists. One of their examples of a great President (Ronald Reagan) he didn''t "appease" openly. No. He just snuck around behind the scenes exchanging weapons for hostages.Weapons that may be some of the basis for the technologies that the Iranians have developed since then. Anyone not think that they know how to take things apart? We never hear about that part of it though. Are some of their advancements due to Iran-Contra? They have lots of nerve talking about appeasement. Talking is a lot less harmful and more productive than handing them weapons after they took over our embassy.

[jesterbelle]

I''m outa here Sarge.Going to go find Rowdy and give her some sshit.Care to join me?

[elz523]

And on a side note, how does getting shot down and captured qualify you as a hero? McCain certainly deserves great credit for serving and surviving, but aren''''t the guys who shoot down enemies and rescue POWs the heroes?


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Posted by EddyNewHope at 09:22 PM : May 18, 2008

John McCain let other POW''s go free before him. He chose to stay in hell rather than be released when he had the opportunity. He did this partly because his father was a high ranking officer and he didn''t want to give the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory. He is a very brave man. Much, much different from Bush and Cheney in that respect.

His policies though, are very similar to Bush/Cheney in many important ways and he should not become president. Truthfully, a vote for John McCain is a vote for a Bush third term.

[jesterbelle]

True about the Muli-party system, but America would f*ck it up so much that it''''ll end up being at worst absorbed into the two parties, like always, or maybe a third party, only if it didn''''t have a doctrine of ideology except that of not being liberal or conservative. But that would take, a) a giant leap of faith, b) an intended cultural change, and c) the intellectual exercise of chioce and resistance.

Already present, though, is that p*ssed off feeling.


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Posted by ApprxAm at 09:25 PM : May 18, 2008

A third party will still have the problems of the other two.The main one is that you can''t control something dynamic(politicians,the political scene)with something that''s static(voting).A union would be better,more able to react to unwanted changes.Think what would have happened if the day Bubba was set to sign NAFTA,a third of the country threatened to walk off their jobs.Think what would happen if a third of the country stopped buying a manufacturers goods because they moved overseas.A union would be better.

[jesterbelle]

Isn''''''''t it "appeasement" to allow Bin Laden to operate with total impunity after all that big, tough talk? Whatever happened to "wanted dead or alive"? Bush and McCain don''''t want to catch Bin Laden because it would remove their principle reasoning to start wars and make looooots of money and play army with real, patriotic American soldiers.

And on a side note, how does getting shot down and captured qualify you as a hero? McCain certainly deserves great credit for serving and surviving, but aren''''t the guys who shoot down enemies and rescue POWs the heroes?


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Posted by EddyNewHope at 09:22 PM : May 18, 2008

Bin Laden?Got to have a boogeyman to keep the price of oil up.Daddy found that out with Saddam.I remember paying .45 cents a gallon just a month or two before that S.O.B. baited Saddam into invading Iraq.

[apprxam]

It has also led to periods of instability in Germany and Scandinavia. I prefer the US system.


Posted by ausus

True about the Muli-party system, but America would f*ck it up so much that it''ll end up being at worst absorbed into the two parties, like always, or maybe a third party, only if it didn''t have a doctrine of ideology except that of not being liberal or conservative. But that would take, a) a giant leap of faith, b) an intended cultural change, and c) the intellectual exercise of chioce and resistance.

Already present, though, is that p*ssed off feeling.

[jesterbelle]

I haven''''t but I will. Most of the detail I get about them I get through Wikipedia. they have some good info on them. I''''ve been a fan all of my life and I''''ve just started collecting some cells from some of them. The pride of my (small so far) collection though is a cell from a Tom and Jerry toon called "Tee for Two". I have a couple of old Betty Boop''''s too. I''''m hoping to get one of Daffy Duck as Robin Hood Daffy, but the $700 will be coming out of my beer money, so it''''ll take me another month or so.


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Posted by SgtRDS-E4 at 09:16 PM : May 18, 2008

There was a director,I can''t think of his name,that did some of the early bugs cartoons and others from around that time.He got into an argument with the producer Schlesinger,walked off the set and went to MGM.He did a lot of the non Tom and Jerry MGM cartoons,including Redhot Riding Hood.

[eddynewhope]

Isn''''t it "appeasement" to allow Bin Laden to operate with total impunity after all that big, tough talk? Whatever happened to "wanted dead or alive"? Bush and McCain don''t want to catch Bin Laden because it would remove their principle reasoning to start wars and make looooots of money and play army with real, patriotic American soldiers.

And on a side note, how does getting shot down and captured qualify you as a hero? McCain certainly deserves great credit for serving and surviving, but aren''t the guys who shoot down enemies and rescue POWs the heroes?

[sgtrds-e4]

I heard they were going to try uniforms.Yellow pantsuits with matching belt,shoes,and handbag.

Posted by jesterbelle at 09:15 PM : May 18, 2008

Ahhh yes. The Larry Craig approach......

[sgtrds-e4]

Have you ever checked them out on IMDB?They have a whole rundown on them that even lists the people that did some of the other voices.Mel Blanc was the only one that had a deal where his name would be listed in the credits.It''''s really interesting.I know you''''d like it,being a fan.

Posted by jesterbelle at 09:05 PM : May 18, 2008

I haven''t but I will. Most of the detail I get about them I get through Wikipedia. they have some good info on them. I''ve been a fan all of my life and I''ve just started collecting some cells from some of them. The pride of my (small so far) collection though is a cell from a Tom and Jerry toon called "Tee for Two". I have a couple of old Betty Boop''s too. I''m hoping to get one of Daffy Duck as Robin Hood Daffy, but the $700 will be coming out of my beer money, so it''ll take me another month or so.

[apprxam]

Contract law makes it clear that intent is the mother''s milk of agreements between parties, but Exxon/Mobil didn''t see it that way and insist that the contracts are valid and needn''t be changed even if it''s against long standing legal principles.

[jesterbelle]

can tell you how the Republicans SHOULD campaign this year to try to win their seats back... They should A) apologize for their own actions, being partisan hacks, refusing to work with democrats now that the Dems have power. B) apologize for supporting GOP /Bush /Rove policies that steal from the poor and give to the rich. C) beg for forgiveness and plead for mercy votes during the election. ....
And MAYBE they''''ll get a few re-elected.



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Posted by ov442 at 09:11 PM : May 18, 2008

I heard they were going to try uniforms.Yellow pantsuits with matching belt,shoes,and handbag.

[ausus-2009]

BGwinnett, I am not sure if you understand the European system. Multi-party coalitions and preferential voting lead to instability and the inclusion of fringe nut parties into governments. Look at Italy. It has had about as many different governments as years since World War II. France was similar until De Gaulle changed the system. It has also led to periods of instability in Germany and Scandinavia. I prefer the US system.

[jw218389]

BushMcCain is a supporter of trickle down Oilnomics.

Give billions to the oil companies, even invade a country for them and they will reward the American public with $5.00 gas and by shipping your job to China.

IT''S TIME FOR A CHANGE AND McCAIN IS JUST ANOTHER BUSH.

[ov442]

I can tell you how the Republicans SHOULD campaign this year to try to win their seats back... They should A) apologize for their own actions, being partisan hacks, refusing to work with democrats now that the Dems have power. B) apologize for supporting GOP /Bush /Rove policies that steal from the poor and give to the rich. C) beg for forgiveness and plead for mercy votes during the election. ....
And MAYBE they''ll get a few re-elected.

[apprxam]

"Gave away billions to the Oil Companies, who made $100 BILLION in Pure Profits last year alone - while we get stuck with $4.00 per gallon gas."

In fact, this began during the Clinton years. Proferred was that the contract was written in error, but no one tried to change it. I mean, really, at least come up with a better excuse then "contract error". The Clinton''s, Sam Nunn, Gephardt, Babbit, Chuck Robb are all traitors to the United States of America.

I''m all for a more moderate position than all-out liberalism, but this has been the extreme sside of the spectrum, no different than Conservatives and Jim Bakerism.