Comments on: Schieffer: Kudos For Stating The Obvious

McCain's Statement That The U.S. Should Never Go It Alone Is, Sadly, Proved Right Too Often

[it_oldtimer]

There simply isn''t any reason whatsoever to even consider voting for McCain. In every single area he''s just an absolute zero.

[alanrobisch]

McCain is literally in.sane. It''''s a very serious mistake to think that another in.sane president is going to lead us to good times.



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Posted by GLadImNotOJ at 09:36 PM : Mar 30, 2008
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If you believe that he meant the thing about a thousand years or a 100 you are tone deaf. Read David Brook''s column in the NYT. He is a respected jounalist and finds Mr. McCain to be a pragmatist who doesn''t follow the leader but if you are a dem or have blinders on you will follow the leader and listen to the talking points and believe them

[alanrobisch]

You can attribute it to whatever, the contradiction essentially speaks for itself . . .


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Posted by SamTheTVCat at 09:09 PM : Mar 30, 2008
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Your logic escapes me. He backed what appears to be a sucessful strategy and for that you are saying he is contradicting hmself because he helped bring at least temporary stability to IRaq. You are clueless. Other than your poll you hAVE BROUGHT nothing other than a negative opinion about him to the table.

[samthetvcat]

Okay, I''ve given AlanRobisch2 enough rope to prove my point which was that the only rationale for McCain''s ''surge'' doctrine is that he''s right because he says so, and that that opinion doesn''t factor in anybody else''s. This stance completely contradicts his claims that he''s all about listening to others which Bob Shieffer was applauding him for supposedly embracing.

You can attribute it to whatever, the contradiction essentially speaks for itself . . .

[alanrobisch]

I do not have enough information of what is actually happening in Iraq to say what would happen. I have an opinion and you have and opinion. It seems to me that since the much maligned surge occurred Iraq has become much mor e secure and one of the early criticisms of bush was his unwillingness to send in enough soldiers to do an effective job. Now more soldiers are their we have become more effective. So its logical if it is working to bring the troops home asap right Wrong. Now when we should begin to reduce the number of troops there I don''t know and considering McCain''s background he would be the last person to want to keep more men in harm''s way than need be.

[samthetvcat]

--"As I said polls do not necessarily reflect the facts and should not be used to determine policy"--
Posted by alanrobisch2

So again, I ask for facts and logic . . . you haven''t referenced either so far.

[samthetvcat]

alanrobisch2, if you have a poll that shows otherwise, please include a citation.

As for the rest, I''m not sure why you feel the need to prove yourself to me. Either your position speaks for itself or it doesn''t. Because the worst bosses in the world all think they''re ''right'' - the fact that you''d use threats to try and prove your case rather than incorporating facts and logic tends to show what kind of supervisor you''ve been . . .

[alanrobisch]

You say you''''re about bringing security to Iraq even though Iraqis apparently don''''t want us there because our presence is making security worse. So again, I ask - what''''s your agenda? You''''re not making sense

I think you are making an assumption that because this poll indicates that a majority or is a plurality think our presence is making security worse it may not be true. George washington toward the end of the war had to execute soldiers who were mutineeing and if he hadnt the whole effort may have fallen apart so the soldiers were in fact wrong about our eventual success As I said polls do not necessarily reflect the facts and should not be used to determine policy

[alanrobisch]

the last poll I had seen barring what you are reporting indicated while most irquis would like us to leave most believed we were necessary to their security.

I don''t doubt that the feelings may have changed but I don''t think the fact of a poll should be the driving force of a policy.

I worked as a supervisor for almost 30 yrs and often had to do unpopular things that were the right thing. POlls should not our policies drive. If you honestly think that MCCain would keep more forces there than needed I think you have another think coming.

[samthetvcat]

"his bravery and integrity seem right up their I''ll take that over IQ any time"
Posted by alanrobisch2

Well we each get to choose how we want to use our vote for whatever reasons, but I''m interested to hear more about how you foresee McCain''s qualities impacting his decision-making and how it will influence our national interests. You say you''re about bringing security to Iraq even though Iraqis apparently don''t want us there because our presence is making security worse. So again, I ask - what''s your agenda? You''re not making sense . . .