Comments on: Romney: I'm The Consistent Conservative

Former Massachusetts Governor Says He Has Steady Republican Credentials

[jowand]

Today, there are numerous military leaders and soldiers that are LDS, including my late grandfather who faught in WWII and the Korean War. The LDS Church is the epidemy of patriotism.

Posted by akoeppen at 05:44 PM : Oct 21, 2007

Don''t ferget the waggon train massacre and bigomy while you''re sounding off.

[stezzer]

Hello radiob, I hope you are well.

Yes I suppose you''re right. I just can''t help liking Mr. Romney.

However, I''m certainly no expert. I''m only basing my opinions on what the man has said and done. I just think changing one''s mind shouldn''t be a problem. Don''t we all change our opinions as we get older?

[moxford0]

Sh.. is a word that rhymes with Mitt.

[jn122736]

As far as Romney changing his views, isn''''t that what this country is all about, the personal right to have our own opinion, and when shown a better idea, to adopt that idea instead? Each day, as we become more educated, we see things differently.
Posted by proshutterbu at 04:48 PM : Oct 21, 2007
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According to many reports and articles I have read about Romney, he has changed his standing on far too many issues (which obviously improve his chances to achieve the office he is pursuing at the time), to be simple re-enlightenment.

If He is/has changed his PUBLIC opinion just for political purposes it casts a large shadow over his honesty and character.
Even giving Romney the benefit of the doubt, his being wrong on so many things in so short a time doesn%u2019t bode well for having him as president of the United States.

Haven%u2019t we been through enough of that lately?

[akoeppen]

Actually, Mormons are among the most patriotic Christian faiths in America. One of the most basic and sacred principles of the LDS "Mormon" church reads, "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law."

The Church, in one of it most oppressive times in history, put together a battallion when called upon by the US government. Numerous men left their families vulnerable to the elements to go and serve their country. Today, there are numerous military leaders and soldiers that are LDS, including my late grandfather who faught in WWII and the Korean War. The LDS Church is the epidemy of patriotism.

[radiob-2009]

Stezzer it is one thing to moderate one''s position, it is another to totally change one''s position. That is known as flip flopping and every candiate running has done it.

[stezzer]

alphaa10

Yes, I see your point. However, in England, our politicians are so wishy washy and bland (almost ashamed of being British) that someone like Mr. Romney seems very strong and patriotic. It''s very admirable.

I just can''t help wishing we had a chap like this to vote for.

[macusweil]

The only thing consistent about Mitt is his ability to change positions on the issues. Stop the waste in Iraq, end the GOP''s free spending habits that have ballooned our deficit 56% in six and half years.

Vote Ron Paul ''the last true Republican'' for 2008.

[cfin5]

MyIDonCBS,......You are correct that Mormonism according to the Bible is a false gospel. The Apostle Paul warned the church in Galatia of a curse on those changing what had already been preached to them. I will insert an example in parenthesis to make my point......Galatians 1: 6-9,...6- I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7- Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8- But though we, or an angel ( MORONI ) from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9- As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed........This so called angel named "Moroni" is the one who deceived Joseph Smith unto another gospel. They are in no way "Christians". They are "Mormons" by their own beliefs of their own creation.

[cassandragop]

Candidate Romney: "I am a consistent conservative."
Nominee Romney: "I am a true centrist."
Double your money back guarantee that he will emphasize his moderation if nominated.
He has governed as a Clinton style business friendly liberal.

[alphaa10-2009]

Stezzer said, ..."But I must say, as a (English) foreigner, Mr. Romney certainly looks and sounds like a president."
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Precisely the point, Stezzer. To central casting, anyone off the street has a chance at a starring role. The question, is there any competence lurking behind the mask?

To most aliens, Bush himself initially seemed "presidential"-- but boy, were they surprised later to find this Tejas country boy (ska aspiring redneck) mouthing the latest neocon slogans he had been sold.

[radiob-2009]

Oct.3, 2007
Dogpile Gazette






Dogpile Missouri: We caught up with Drew our hometown champion on the steps of the state capital yesterday and inquired to his campaign for president. He stated that all was going well and that momentum was gathering in his favor. When pressed on issues such as Iraq he replied that he had a concrete plan to end the war inside of six months of his presidency. Asked about the immigration issue he again reiterated that he had the only viable plan. Asked about his plan and details of Drew was quick to respond to our questions with great insight and knowledge of the subject. He spoke fluently to the mixed audience outside the steps of the capitol, which was followed by applause. He promised his plan would indeed provide better security at home and abroad. He then went on to state that he would not only finish the war in Iraq inside of six months but he would also put an end to the war on terror bringing it also to a end inside of two years. Dogpile residents and America will indeed be watching this candiate.


The only candiate not wearing a "poodle skirt".

[alphaa10-2009]

Lars008, where are you when we need you? Here''s another cause for your jihad project! A CBS poster notes the Mormon church (aka LDS) is not what it seems...

"You need to learn a bit more about the Mormons. They DECLARED WAR on the United States of America in the 1800''''s!!! Their sacred prophet said the goal of the LDS church was to take over the government of the USA, and to rule the world. Swearing vengeance against the USA even used to be part of the secret temple rituals!..."
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Now, Lars, let your excitement subside, and think through this carefully. Note, please, LDS never signed a formal peace treaty with the government of the United States. Technically, that means all Mormons in "good standing" are sworn enemies of this country!

[stezzer]

I''m English, so feel free to tell me to mind my own business. But I must say, as a foreigner, Mr. Romney certainly looks and sounds like a president.

I know he seems to change his mind as often as his socks, but at least he isn''t entrenched in his own views. He''s prepared to listen to people and is open about altering his opinion. Isn''t that a good thing?

Anyway, like I said, you can tell me to mind my own business.

[proshutterbu]

ConDumism how about some specific examples? Granted, in every religion, there are imperfect members, after all, isn''t religion for those who need improvement? However, I see no credibility in someone making a broad based statement, with no supporting evidence.

As far as Romney changing his views, isn''t that what this country is all about, the personal right to have our own opinion, and when shown a better idea, to adopt that idea instead? Each day, as we become more educated, we see things differently.

[alphaa10-2009]

erichsh said, "Why would Massachusetts, the most liberal state, ever elect a conservative governor... maybe it''''s reflective of the hypocritical liberal mindset: Send a Kennedy to Washington to stuff liberal policies down the throat of the rest of the nation, but appoint a conservative to run MY state and keep MY taxes lower..."
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Or, perhaps it is telling commentary on how Romney sold himself, in order to win Massachusetts.

More to the point, slogans may be conforting to Bushbots, but you didn''t stop to read the rest of the story. Massachusetts healthcare expenses actually rose after the Romney-supported plan was enacted.

Asked about the possibility of such a rise in state expenditures, Romney said his critics could be right, but rising expenditures, short-term, may very well be offset to a surplus by preventive healthcare measures.

No supporter of Romney, I must give him credit where he appears correct. Most in the medical / healthcare policy sector acknowledge prevention is better (and cheaper) than cure. Reactive policy is almost always more expensive.

[l8c6]

Another neocon who says trust me, I am feed up with the facist right wing we have had enough. The trouble with facism is they just don''''t know when to leave they must be chased out by a screaming mob.

Posted by antoniof123


yeah, and enough of people so terribly disconnected from the lives of most americans they don''t know what the f*uck a grocery store scanner is. How many are fools enough to think that these are people hassled in the same manner as the masses when using air travel. When Blackwater starts running the check points how many are fool enough to think the neo con party elites won''t have special clearance.

[myidoncbs]

bdrlnt4rl claims I don''t know what I''m talking about. That is not true. I can provide sources to support every single thing I have said about Mormons and the LDS church. But there''s no need. YOU can look it all up on the internet if you want to learn the truth. But you don''t. You LIKE your self-imposed ignorance. It lets you continue to believe what you know is not true.

[myidoncbs]

some ig/no/rant fo/ol said, "the little I know about Mormons is that they love their county because they believe it was formed divinly by God and they will do everything to honour and protect this country and the reasons our fore fathers founded it."

You need to learn a bit more about the Mormons. They DECLARED WAR on the United States of America in the 1800''s!!! Their sacred prophet said the goal of the LDS church was to take over the government of the USA, and to rule the world. Swearing vengeance against the USA even used to be part of the secret temple rituals!

Mutt Romney, NO Thanks!!!

[alphaa10-2009]

CBS reports, "I believe in the principles of my party," Romney told Bob Schieffer. "And I believe that the only way that we''re going to take the White House is not by acting like Hillary Clinton..."
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What GOP principles? As Bush enters his final year in office, GOP candidates are fractured along many lines. Choose your candidate, and guess his principles, in a spectrum ranging from Giuliani to Thompson. All they want is your vote, so don''t ask any questions and move along, please.

Their only recent point of convergence is rabid fear of exposure on the Tavis Smiley-moderated debate on race and other minority issues. All candidates from the GOP spontaneously canceled due to "schedule conflicts"...

Paradoxically, Romney is noted for the damning similarities his healthcare plan does bear to Clinton''s. Only last year, back in Massachusetts, Romney introduced a mandatory, government-subsidized, near-universal-coverage health plan-- in some respects, anticipating Clinton''s approach.

Dismissing the comparison, Romney remains eager to win the nomination, no matter what he must disavow. Julian Zelizer of Princeton warns, however, Romney must realize the difference between what may work at the Minneapolis convention, and what will actually win in 2008 with the American public.

"He has to be careful not to distance himself too much from his own accomplishments," he said.