Comments on: Is Iraq A Failed State?

Senators With Dueling Prognoses Of Iraq And the Success of the Surge

[radiob-2009]

Dig a moat around Iraq
Take the dirt and sand fill in New Orleans
Take the alligators and crocodiles and fill in the moat.

Any other problems?

[klifton2-2009]

"we are turning the corner," "we are turning things around." What these tired remarks really mean is that we do not know what is going on, we do not have a clue, your guess is as good as mine.... and blah blah blah. In short, we are $screwed#.

[edward1975-2009]

We''re dealing with a culture far older than ours, whose base is tribal law. They neither want democracy nor understand it. They are tied to tradition much like the Far East. We will not change that. Time to understand that we failed in our strategy and execution. And neither party has a solution for what ails the Middle East. Which is evident in their flip flop politics.

[feelfree1]

"Why we stand for immediate withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Iraq"

"THE U.S. occupation of Iraq has not liberated the Iraqi people, but has made life worse for most Iraqis."

"Tens of thousands of U.S. service people have been killed or maimed, and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis have lost their lives as a result of the U.S. invasion in 2003, the ongoing occupation, and the violence unleashed by them."

"Iraq''s infrastructure has been destroyed, and U.S. plans for reconstruction abandoned. There is less electricity, less clean drinking water, and more unemployment today than before the U.S. invasion."

"All of the justifications initially provided by the U.S. for waging war on Iraq have been exposed as lies; the real reasons for the invasion %u2014 to control Iraq''s oil reserves and to increase U.S. strategic influence in the region %u2014 now stand revealed."

"The Bush administration has insisted again and again that stability, democracy, and prosperity are around the next bend in the road. ..The U.S. says that it cannot withdraw its military because Iraq will collapse into civil war if it does. But the U.S. has deliberately stoked sectarian divisions in its ongoing attempt to install a U.S.-friendly regime, thus driving Iraq towards civil war."

"We call on the U.S. to get out of Iraq %u2014 not in six months, not in a year, but now."

www.ipetitions.com/petition/OutNow

[libsluvsuvs]

Posted by CBS_Oliver at 02:39 PM : Sep 02, 2007
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creating a democracy in middle east is not an easy task. Time, effort and tragically blood is needed to make it happen. There are too many factions opposed to this type of democratic environment..its infectious.
However, our permanent presence will not do to it. We need to creat a force strong enough to hold back the tide..pretty much like in israel.
Iran has not desire to be buddies with "al queda". I am just irritated that anything that happens in middle east has to be "buddies". The share the same common interest..a bigger imprint of thier influence. I would not doubt that when we move out..iran with fight the insurgency for total control.
and when would this relationship be obvious enough fro you??? when moore makes a movie about it??or Jon Stewart validates it?? these endless stream of violence has to come from somewhere..NOT UNLESS IT WAS THE LIBERALS WHO ARE SUPPLYING THESE INSURGENCY.

[melcarnahan]

And the worst thing that can happen for America is a failed state in Iraq, where Iran is the winner and al Qaeda comes in and... Oops!

[cbs_oliver]

Senator Graham, R-SC, says "The government at the central level is dysfunctional, but it''s not a failed state. [And] the worst thing that can happen for America is a failed state in Iraq, where Iran is the winner and al Qaeda comes back."

My goodness. There he goes linking Iran and al Qaeda to each other and Iraq.

The recent labeling of insurgent groups in Iraq as "al Qaeda" by the US military and US government and affiliated groups is just market branding of very diverse groups under a commonly feared and reviled name.

Additionally, the government of Iran is well known to despise al Qaeda.

Also Iran is not particularly active in Iraq. Desperate efforts to prove otherwise have not been successful.

Lindsey Graham is not a truthful man.

[v_1618]

THE REALLITY IS THIS..

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BUSH IS PUSHING THE UNITED STATES TO THE END OF HIS EMPIRE AND ALL FOR THE SAKE OF HIS GREEDY ALLIES AND COMPANIES.

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[actornaught]

"the total number of Iraqi civilian deaths are up around Iraq, not down. The number of people fleeing their homes has gone from 50,000 a month to 100,000 a month since the surge."

What a horror this administration has heaped on these people.

"Well, the surge has worked," Graham said. "It''s provided a level of security I haven''t seen [in Iraq before]."

A half-truth is still a lie, a total lie. The surge has seen some inprovement in Baghdad, but it''s made it worse in the rest of Iraq, see the first quote.

This was a failed state, a failed experiment, and a victory for moslem death-mongers as soon as the looting started.

It could''ve been saved, but the Big Money Grab was on. Everybody that voted for this administration, especially for a second term, should be ashamed.

[radiob-2009]

Iraq? That was a "dream" and not of its citizens but of our delusional commander in chief.Its a power grab, multiple civil wars going on and when all is said and done how many states will come out of 3 or more?

[chasphx]

I find pretty funny that Binden can call for the attorney general be a honest person when he himself platinrized a paper years ago. He who has not sinned may throw the first stone. Or in case of Joe do as I say not as I do which is the case with most of the people in congress. I don''t know how these people can be in office so long and not get a *** thing done. They always seem to react in place of acting first .

[cdfoxtrot]

Is Iraq a failed state? Well, now that the moron-in-chief removed the one person who could actually maintain order and calm in that country, yes it is a failed state. For all his faults, Saddam Hussein kept that country together and kept religious extremists in check. And under Saddam, it was a secular state - not the religion-based collection of sub-states it is degenerating into.

[myidoncbs]

j-whitman is right, Iraq has not been a Sovereign State since the US invaded and overthrew its president, so there''s no point in questioning whether or not it''s a "failed" state.

Iraq is now an occupied territory of the United States of Bush. The occupation is is going very well, thank you. There''s no end to the amount of money Cheney can funnel to his "former" company, Haliburton, for various activities in Iraq. There''s no end to the amount of fear that the "war on terror" generates, and that fear is a fascist''s best friend. Just look at how many rights we''ve given up due to that fear! The oil thing hasn''t worked out too well, though. Gee, maybe the Iraqis don''t really understand that they''ve been "liberated"? Otherwise, why do they keep blowing up the oil wells and sabatoging the pipelines? Could it be that they aren''t too happy that Bush''s Buddies would get all that oil, and the Iraqi people would get nothing? I guess they think, "If we can''t have it, why should our enemy get it?" Who could blame them for that!

[j-whitman]

Perhaps the Question should be when was it actually a state or a sovereign country ?? Is it now ?? Or if it is ever possible with foreign policies that create artificial borders,, artificial leaders & impose control over thier security & politics ---
--- Pehaps we might ask ourselves how we would like a Mexican military occupation of our country or even a Canadian one ????