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- George Tenet was a Clinton appointee and was kept by Bush.
That would explain why BOTH PRESIDENTS Clinton & Bush went on TV explaining Hussein was "developing Weapons of Mass Destruction"
Maybe neither Clinton nor Bush lied about WMD, maybe they were both misled by this idiot.
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- fredgrad2000 - the end result of all the reports concludes that the Bush Admin 'fixed' the intel to gain the end result they wanted - and Bush adn Cheney in April 2001 through Cheney Energy Commission had already decided on regime change in Iraq as a necessity.
9-11 was a godsend to them - because it allowed them to falsely lead the nation to invade a nation that had nothing to do with 9-11 and no AQ connection whatsoever - in fact - they were barely surviving and had no means of defending themselves as any invasion whether it was US or Iran.
The reason it is absolutely necessary to accept that the Bush Administration screwed up totally from beginning to now is that we cannot allow them to act alone in making decisions, action plans or diplomatic decisions regarding Iraq or Middle East or Iceland - they are simply not capable of acting in the best interests of US - whether its lack of competency or lack of reality not a one of them is up for the job. - Reply to this comment
- Somebody is lying. And Congress should get to the bottom of it all because there are a lot people dead as a result, including our U.S. Soldiers!
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- fredgrad2000,
For the most part I agree with what you've said. One further point though.
Almost all the people who thought Sadaam had WMD and didn't want him to go unchecked(including all the Democrats that you've quoted) favored allowing the U.N. inspection process to be completed. It would have been much better to use that inspection as a springboard to build a broader coalition and greater concensus for going to war.
We now know beyond any shadow of a doubt that the decision had already been made to go to war and Bush wasn't going to wait and allow the U.N. inspectors to show the world that the weapons weren't there.
We also know from Tenent that Pearle was trying to sell an Iraq-911 link the day after with no evidence and that the intelligence community thought this was crazy.
You're right that name-calling and moveon silly chants aren't productive. There's just a lot of legitimate anger that people need to find a non-violent way to release. In most of the world people kill for far less. - Reply to this comment
- When it come to life AND death... expect the same response... " I DON'T RECALL"... good lordy... these people sound like Mafioso...LOL
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- Smart sanctions?? From the Bush Administration?? What a load of BS.. you'd think by now they'd be exhausted trying to keep all their lies and deceptions going - I mean come on - not a one of them ever did an honest day's work in their life - but boy oh boy they sure can keep slinging the BS.
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- George Tenet was a Clinton appointee and was kept by Bush.
That would explain why BOTH presidents Clinton & Bush went on TV explaining Hussein was "developing Weapons of Mass Destruction"
Maybe neither Clinton nor Bush lied about WMD, maybe they were both misled by this idiot.
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- "We all believed the intelligence was strong," she said. "It wasn't just a problem with intelligence in the United States, it was an intelligence problem worldwide."
Nice convenient excuse. You believed what you wanted to believe! You only accepted "intelligence" that supported your pre-conceived ideas and notions; you ignored or dismissed anything that didn't support your plan for war. That's what the Downing Street Memo proved. That's why people claim you lied us into this war. You, Ms. Rice, brought a "cold war" expertise and mentality to the office...you were overmatched when it came to this region and these issues. When Richard Clarke and others tried to get you up to speed you blew them off. You and your buddy, George, allowed the Pearle's, Cheney's, and other Project for a New American Century wackos to stampede us into this God-forsaken war. We will all be paying for your incompetence for decades to come. - Reply to this comment
- ainttaken - I agree Iraq invasion was a bad idea, that his administration BUNGLED the task of managing Iraq after the initial victory, has left us with a potentially worse scenario in the region (i.e., a Hezbollah-style Iraq "owned" by Iran, with Al Qaeda being heavily invested where it was not before) that cannot be cured by reversing the initial mistake of invading. What I have trouble with all the time is namecalling (i.e. "chimp" - what does that accomplish? Namecalling is for 5 year olds!!) and the continual MoveOn rhetoric of Bush lied, etc...blah blah blah...questions of whether it was a good idea to invade or over MIS-management of the war are valid and like I said, I agree...but everyone in the world, including Bush's predecessor, his Democratic opponents, strong, foreign intelligence services like the British, French, Chinese, etc...all believed Saddam had WMD and we all know he used it. The differences were based on USE of that intel. Bush chose to get rid of Saddam based on that intel in a post-9/11 world, the British agreed, the French did not (even though we know French and Russians were bought off, it wasn't a "moral" choice on their part). That decision has made things worse by leaving us in a stalemate where the parties who gain from our loss are bigger enemies than Saddam was...but it was a wrong decision based on intel everyone believed to be valid.
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- We all knew that George had his eyes on Iraq as soon as he took office. Some people just refuse to admit it.
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