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Sunday Morning: How Are The Candidates' Health Proposals Different — And Will They Help The Uninsured?
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- Under Mccains plan if you have healthcare from your employer you will be taxed on the benefit which is about 12,000 for a family plan...at 28% tax bracket and get ready to pay about $2500 for it. Mccains plan is a disaster and will make more employers drop coverage. furthermore insurance and pharmeceuticals are deregulated just like wall street was and they are comitting fraud, denying coverage and ripping off the public and no one is paying attention....mccain will continue this deregulation..in fact he thinks it is good. By the way why hasn''t mccain opted out of his taxpayer funded health care if its so bad for the rest of us?? I am having a hard time with this because he can purchase any plan in the world....
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- "I''''m a healthcare provider (shrink) and you are wrong. We want health care for everyone. And, please....do not ever classify us with lawyers",
reading comprehension would help. yes, we want healthcare for everyone, but not run by some bureacrats in Washington that only know how to balance budget, and are not involved in medicine.
secondly, if health profession is targeted (and it already is being demeaned as "providers" instead of doctors or professionals), then rates of all the other professions will have to be government controlled. and if you think that should not be the case, I would like to know your rationale. - Reply to this comment
- "you have no idea what you are talking about. My father was a disabled vet, and he received top quality care his entire life from a HUGE government-run medical health care system, call the VETERANS ADMINISTRATION. The VA is a SOCIALIZED HEALTH CARE SYSTEM." ... yes, a really bad one, a system that systematically denies care and puts roadblocks to veterans, instead of providing them first rate care... thats why vets are always calling their congressmen to complain... your experience may vary, but as far as I know nobody is pointing at VA as an example of healthcare we would like to have in USA. same goes for Medicare, yes, it is "free" for seniors, but good luck with finding a provider that will accept new Medicare patients. Medicare rates are something like 25% of customary charges. Medicaid, and other state run programs, even worse, mountain of papers to fill out, lousy reimbursement.
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- mcapak
I''m a healthcare provider (shrink) and you are wrong. We want health care for everyone. And, please....do not ever classify us with lawyers. - Reply to this comment
- mcapek: you have no idea what you are talking about. My father was a disabled vet, and he received top quality care his entire life from a HUGE government-run medical health care system, call the VETERANS ADMINISTRATION. The VA is a SOCIALIZED HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
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- I worked in Taiwan and Spain for many years, and I traveled to Japan and some other countries for business very often. I can say the healthcare system/insurance in United States is a big joke. Here a %u201Cdecent%u201D health care plan cannot save a person with severe disease from bankruptcy, and it will drop the person when he lose the job due to the illness. Furthermore, such a bad %u201Cdecent%u201D plan cost so high that tens of million people in this country cannot afford any plan.
In Taiwan for example, which GDP per capital is about half of US, but the medical expense cost less than 1/10. It took only $250 US dollars for a middle class to insure a whole family for a year. Co-pay is like 2 dollar and you can go any doctor any hospital you like. No appointment needed either. And I could not tell any different in the quality of treatment from the experience of my families and myself.
By comparison, the healthcare system here sucks, it%u2019s much worse than a developing country. And the most unbelievable thing is many still think it%u2019s fine!
People, please weak up and vote Obama! - Reply to this comment
- anyway, I don''t see physicians of this country going along with "government controlled medicine" ideas, until all the other professions, including lawyers, accept a total government control of their work and government dictated rates. that will be the end of professionals in this country. I fully expect doctors to tell the government to go to hell, if they try to take over health care. At that point Congressmen will become defacto "healthcare providers"; patient will go to see them to obtain their healthcare, hehehehe! That will last about one week and then the whole government plan will collapse.
Shades of that crazy women Clinton and her secret healthplan administered by "unbiased" accountants and lawyers. - Reply to this comment
- "Good program but you totally missed the point. France has NO malpractice, you can do no wrong, can''''t get sued and there is NO Trial Lawyer''''s Assoc. Now if you remove a trillion dollar load from our health care system..." Exactly right!!! I see tens of thousands of dollars wasted each day in so-called DEFENSIVE MEDICINE.. if you don''t document everything and do all the tests, you will get sued, your insurer will drop you, and you will not be able to practice medicine. the insurer will drop you even if you win the medmal cases, because you cost them too much money to defend. it costs tens of thousands of dollars to defend a medmal suit, and millions if you loose it. even for crazy *** stuff.
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- Face it, there are some people in this country that think only about themselves. Patriots? Not a one of them. As long as they have got theirs, to hell with you if you somehow have fallen on hard times and can''t afford health care. Now of course, they don''t mind handing out billions to Israel, because that makes them feel holy. Or billion, trillions to companies like Halliburton because that''s just the way of war. But when it comes to saving lives, forget it.
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- Yeah, all you smart people on here are right. The US government should administer and charge us ALL for our health insurance instead of letting private companies. Afterall, we all know that the US government really knows how to run an efficient profitable or at least budget neutral business now. Lets let our government show us how its done. (Yeah right...)LOL.
Its OK. If the US government messes it all up, they can just get ANOTHER $700 BILIION BAILOUT for it, right? But at least we can all have free health insurance.
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Posted by edintex at 10:16 PM
Blow it up your rear end, dear. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by slm8269 at 10:48 PM
I want to say that I for one appreciate your experience and I hope that your experience can be one of many that may finally get us to realize that health care is a right and not some damm luxury. - Reply to this comment
- Good program but you totally missed the point. France has NO malpractice, you can do no wrong, can''t get sued and there is NO Trial Lawyer''s Assoc. Now if you remove a trillion dollar load from our health care system do you think we would have any problem insuring all our citizens? Matter of fact when you factor in loss wages from jurors having to sit at trial, judges time and costs, trial lawyers fees, expert witness fees (I personally have seen some PHYSICIANS gut the system) and perhaps a 100 other ancillary costs it may be more than a trillion dollars per year!
Bottom line is that you cannot have universal health care, ie. Socialized Medicine co-exist with a capitalistic legal system. It is an oxymoron.
Perhaps next Sunday you should tell "the rest of the story" to quote Paul Harvey.
Charles Itzig Jr. M.D. (retired and glad of it) - Reply to this comment
- Quote "So what is the complaining for then? Doesn''''t the uninsured eventually get the care they need in the hospitals at the insureds expence? Oh yeah, it IS a little inconvenient for them to have to wait for hours for free care. Been there, done that, started paying $600 per month for my family insurance policy instead of Nike shoes and SUV''''s for everybody."
I''m sorry for the way you feel on this issue. I did not give up my insurance for " Nike shoes or an SUV. I did not plan on getting cancer before going on to my next job/ If you haven''t been there, then please do not judge people.
I did 16 rounds of Chemo, without a port? When I go for labs, they can''t get any in anywhere to draw the blood.Do you have any idea the pain that is?
I lost my home, all my possesions and almost my life. My ong. knows my cancer will come back, do you think I choose to be uninsured?
I cannot get insurance at this point. And no, I do not get Medicaid or Disabilty, thank you? Do you know what it is like to not be able to sleep at night not knowing what your life will be like the next day? Or you can''t sleep because you have so much pain from all the drugs they put in you to save your life? Do you know what it is like to be homeless while going though cancer? I think you more then likely don''t.
So please don''t judge me or anyone else that is uninsured unless you know their story, mine you just read.
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- I''ll tell you I miss my 35k a year job, what do I have now I don''t make 15k, why because I live in Ohio and we are the dust belt now. I just spent 4 days in hospital, and yes the hospital covered my stay but I still have to pay the dr, the blood work, the heart scan the medications and the list goes on to several thousand dollars, now where am I going to get that? I didn''t ask for this, but to listen to some of you it''s my fault that the economy suxs and I should just grin and bear it. Well try downsizing you life more than half and see what you can do. Yes I am angry but I have a family that needs me so I will figure it out.
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- Yeah, all you smart people on here are right. The US government should administer and charge us ALL for our health insurance instead of letting private companies. Afterall, we all know that the US government really knows how to run an efficient profitable or at least budget neutral business now. Lets let our government show us how its done. (Yeah right...)LOL.
Its OK. If the US government messes it all up, they can just get ANOTHER $700 BILIION BAILOUT for it, right? But at least we can all have free health insurance. - Reply to this comment
- And what is ironic - people who have no health care go to hospitals and that cost is just passed on to those who have health care in the form of higher fees and costs.
Posted by IOWEIGN at 06:44 PM : Oct 26, 2008
So what is the complaining for then? Doesn''t the uninsured eventually get the care they need in the hospitals at the insureds expence? Oh yeah, it IS a little inconvenient for them to have to wait for hours for free care. Been there, done that, started paying $600 per month for my family insurance policy instead of Nike shoes and SUV''s for everybody. - Reply to this comment
- Since the US spends more on health care - per capita and % of GDP - than anyone else in the world, while access and quality are near the bottom, why can''t we do better for less? Universal coverage does not have to cost more or mean huge tax increases - it would cost less! Our citizens should be the winners instead of the insurance companies. The Europeans seem to have figured it out and were at least as smart as they are.
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- You know what I changed my mind about Obama! I think he will be better for national security and the economy!
Plus sarah palin $150,000.00 on clothes, most Americans could have bought a home for that amount!
Besides I think Sarah Palin is really a Terrorist
Breaking News: The Terrorist Group AKA Alaska Independent party Calling on Russia to help secede from the Union
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Extremists Mark Chryson and Steve Stoll former leaders of the Alaska Terrorist group AKA Independence Party and friends of Sarah Palin are calling on Russia to help them gain independence from the United States.
Watch video of Sarah palin addressing The Alaska Terrorist Group also known as The Independence party. They are calling for a civil war against the mainland.
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- Our''''s will run in the $16 to 20,000 a year neighborhood for two adults!
Posted by nlada at 05:40 PM : Oct 26, 2008
Health care for 2 people, in Canada, for one year, is approximately $1,080. - Reply to this comment
- Americans are too stupid to believe that a univeral health care system could ever save them money.Private work based health insurance is all they have ever known known. Once retiring they experience their first socialized medical care(Medicare) and never complain again about health care other then to say please never take it away!!!!!
Posted by ljb6599 at 05:46 PM : Oct 26, 2008
Yes
And what is ironic - people who have no health care go to hospitals and that cost is just passed on to those who have health care in the form of higher fees and costs. - Reply to this comment
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