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Ben Stein Thinks It's Dumb To Say We'll Fight Russis At Its Borders When We Can't And Won't

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by alexxxx1-2009 September 15, 2008 3:37 AM EDT
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3. %u201CWe''re not going to fight the Russians over Poland, which is right next to Russia and about 5,000 miles from us%u201D %u2013 Wow! This is dangerous foolishness for sure. Poland is a NATO member. So you don%u2019t like to be called %u201Cliars and punks%u201D but you don%u2019t mind being a traitor? Do you suggest us to come back pre-Napoleon times, mid-17th century when every state was fighting for its own survival. It%u2019s a little bit outdated concept given to the fact that it doesn%u2019t take much to destroy our planet nowadays. Lots of countries have this potential. And second, how long would it take for a ballistic missile to cross 5,000 miles? 15 %u2013 20 minutes, I would guess. That%u2019s how far you are from the nuclear holocaust. Always!
Therefore, we have got to do something
to stop this war, future wars,
to preserve the supremacy of the law of agreements rather than the law of jungles,
to save lives of our kids from potentially dangerous spread of revanchist spirit that would bring them to war sooner rather than later.

Regards
Alex
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by alexxxx1-2009 September 15, 2008 3:36 AM EDT
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2. Yes, the US got too many fights on its platter. The seemingly endless Afghanistan and Iraq, the upcoming Iran, the very shaky position in the American underbelly with Venezuela and Bolivia. It%u2019s all true as well as true is the literal fight for survival of its own American economy. But%u2026 That%u2019s where the politics and the politicians must distinguish themselves from the crowd and find a way to reach the goal beyond the obvious battlefield. I%u2019ve never been a big fan of the Bush%u2019s administration. Nonetheless, the very fact that they found a courage to save peace and transform the fight to oppose the revanchist Russia into the economic political spheres, tells me that the American political establishment still has lots of potential. They sure realized some would call them liars and punks.
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by alexxxx1-2009 September 15, 2008 3:33 AM EDT
Dear Ben,
Everything said below can be treated as a punch below the belt. But your short article made me think that%u2019s the last resort to be used to bring people like you, smart and good intentioned, back to continence.
1. Scroll the history exactly 70 years back to September 30, 1938. Rings any bell? Historians say it all started with the Munich Agreement of 1938 when France and Britain sanctioned the annexation of Czechoslovakia, thinking %u201CWell, what%u2019s Sudetenland to us? And where exactly is it? This is dangerous foolishness. Hitler, standing up for the Czech Germans, may be right.%u201D Parallels are so obvious that it doesn%u2019t take your education, your IQ and the experience to see them.
Let Kremlin rearrange the world map and your grandchildren will end up on a war plane to Europe heavily armed on a mission to fight for Britain or France in just a few short years. I%u2019m begging you, please don%u2019t let you grandchildren die in a flame of WW3. Please don%u2019t make them think their grandpa was so short sighted that he couldn%u2019t spot obvious signs of aggression to be opposed immediately regardless where it comes from, Russia or China, Iraq or Syria.
I%u2019m not a big fan of metaphors in a political reasoning but may I say, you have to strengthen the frame and put some extra support to it if your (or our) house of world peace among the world leading countries is falling apart. Do nothing and you%u2019ll lose the house (peace).
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by alexxxx1-2009 September 15, 2008 3:32 AM EDT
Dear Ben,
Everything said below can be treated as a punch below the belt. But your short article made me think that%u2019s the last resort to be used to bring people like you, smart and good intentioned, back to continence.
1. Scroll the history exactly 70 years back to September 30, 1938. Rings any bell? Historians say it all started with the Munich Agreement of 1938 when France and Britain sanctioned the annexation of Czechoslovakia, thinking %u201CWell, what%u2019s Sudetenland to us? And where exactly is it? This is dangerous foolishness. Hitler, standing up for the Czech Germans, may be right.%u201D Parallels are so obvious that it doesn%u2019t take your education, your IQ and the experience to see them.
Let Kremlin rearrange the world map and your grandchildren will end up on a war plane to Europe heavily armed on a mission to fight for Britain or France in just a few short years. I%u2019m begging you, please don%u2019t let you grandchildren die in a flame of WW3. Please don%u2019t make them think their grandpa was so short sighted that he couldn%u2019t spot obvious signs of aggression to be opposed immediately regardless where it comes from, Russia or China, Iraq or Syria.
I%u2019m not a big fan of metaphors in a political reasoning but may I say, you have to strengthen the frame and put some extra support to it if your (or our) house of world peace among the world leading countries is falling apart. Do nothing and you%u2019ll lose the house (peace).
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by skoplowitz1 September 14, 2008 11:17 PM EDT
Mr. Stein said, "We''ve promised the Poles we''ll defend them if Russia attacks."

"This is dangerous foolishness. We''re not going to fight the Russians over Poland, which is right next to Russia and about 5,000 miles from us."

I am astounded a man of his intelligence could make such a statement. Would we defend England or France if Russia attacked them? Of course we would. We are all part of the NATO alliance, and so is Poland. We have made an agreement to defend Poland and the other four former communist countries should invasions occur.
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by tombost3 September 14, 2008 11:06 PM EDT
When US needed help in Iraq Georgia had sent 2,500 soldiers, and it was not even obliged to do that because it is not a member of NATO. Georgia had sent the third largest amount of troops after US and Britain. Please think about this.
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by snowdog26usa September 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
The time has come for almighty%u2019s one%u2019s to nock at that new gate
post..by snowdog26USA
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by snowdog26usa September 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
The time has come for almighty%u2019s one%u2019s to nock at that new gate
post..by snowdog26USA
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by incog-nito September 14, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
"Think back to Grenada when US military went in to rescue those in Richmond Hill prison, the students, etc."

Posted by vargsriket

Psst... Those students were not taken prisoners. In fact some of them were studying and didn''t even know the U.S. was coming to "rescue" them. It''s pretty easy to come up with a pretext to attack another country, you know. History abounds with such examples.
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by boelcke1916 September 14, 2008 9:24 PM EDT
We need to pick our fights carefully since our military is over-extended all over the globe. I feel sorry for Georgia, but this is not a fight we can safely make. And, they are not in NATO. We have provoked Russia enough. Now they are arming Venezuela. I think Russia is sending us a message.
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