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Today's Model Of Personal Education Is Not Your Grandmother's Home Schooling

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by kristenbaby1 September 15, 2008 1:31 AM EDT
to the person taht said their homeschooled daughter gota four year full ride, i just want to let you know, i went to public school for twelve years. i had class with the low of the low, drug deals went on in the hall ways. it was not unusual for the ambulance to come to my school once a week to pick up serious injuries from fights or someone who OD''d.

but i have a full ride to an ivy league school. i have so many scholarships, that i''m getting cash back at the end of the semesters. close to two thousand dollars cash back.

just because someone got homeschooled, does not mean that they''re going to get into a better college with more scholarships than someone else. thats an absolute ridiculous argument.
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by stephymomma September 15, 2008 12:13 AM EDT
I think many people who have posted on here don''t understand what homeschooling really is. Classes,groups,field trips and hands-on activities with plenty of other kids for our daily "socialization". All at our expense while we are paying taxes for public schools. We purchase our own curriculum. This could literally cost thousands of dollars a year. The socialization issue is ridiculous. I would much rather my kids interact with all ages of people. To see real world experiences. Not be shut into a room all day where if you can''t keep up, too bad. Or if you''re too smart, you''de better dumb yourself down so you''re not different than the other kids. If you don''t wear the right clothes, no one will talk to you. Kids are individuals. Why do people want to put them in a "box" where they can''t be unique people. You have to think outside the box. I went to public and private school so I know how it is. If you think socialization is being kicked around and called names, well my kids don''t need your kind of socialization. Before you comment on homeschoolers, you should do your research. It''s not abusive to love your children and want them to grow to be socially responsible individuals with a mind of their own and a broad range of knowledge. Homeschool kids far outrank publicly schooled children. Look it up. And for the person that posted one of the first comments about the african american lady on the CBS show...if you want to know why people homeschool look in the mirror.
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by jsilver2th September 14, 2008 11:50 PM EDT
I don''t know about your states but in Oregon the Home School laws are a joke- there is so little quality control a child can be failing for years before anyone steps in and by then it is too late for the poor child - it is their life not an experiment.

Too many parents use it because it is just easier for them or they want to avoid contact with school authority as their is increase pressure for the school system to intervene in child physical and sexual abuse at home and they maybe hiding their methamphetamine abuse in the home.

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by donnie8333 September 14, 2008 11:10 PM EDT
Look, the most important thing I learned going to school wasn''t math, or english, or history, or even physed. It was ''getting along with strangers''. That was the most important thing I ever learned going to school. In fact, thats why I begged my parents to let me go to a public school instead of their.. ''intheknow'' private catholic schools. And I was right.. The most down-to-earth people I''d ever met before.

Now, you folks wanna be afraid of everything.. and raise a buncha demented kids. Have at her.
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by ericdrexil September 14, 2008 9:54 PM EDT
My girl was homeschooled K-12. We took private( home school association),classes for things we couldn''t provide. I am speaking of things like drama,public speaking,sports etc. My daughter made a high enough ACT to qualify for 4 years, full ride at a university. She now has gone on to full ride at graduate school. Socialize that.
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by j_m_c_p_k September 14, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
republic1776,
Look around there are things that you can do where you do not have to pay. Our current financial situation puts us in lower middle class. So we can not afford to pay for anything. So we have found a great program for our children that classifies them in a public school (later on it will benefit them to have that classification) but all the work is done at home. K12 is the school we go through, we receive books and everything just like what was shown in the video/article and we do not have to pay a cent. We do not have to go through all the hassle of having to report our attendance, and turning in huge portfolios to the local school board. They have an actual teacher that they meet with; they even plan outings in our area about once a month sometimes more. If you are at a loss like I was at the end of the school year last year thinking, what do I teach them, how do I find out, what are all the laws, where do I start to learn anything about any of this....aaaaaahhhhhh! I simply typed in to the google search something to the effect of home schooling your children. Thousands of things came up and the one that stood out is the program that we are working with and anyone thinking of home schooling I earge you to look into it, it takes out all the head aches, k12.com.
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by j_m_c_p_k September 14, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
donnie7992,
You are absoulutly correct that the socialization of the children is very important, and those parents who know that this is a very important thing will find a way to work that in with the home schooling environment.
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by j_m_c_p_k September 14, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
donnie7992,
You are absoulutly correct that the socialization of the children is very important, and those parents who know that this is a very important thing will find a way to work that in with the home schooling environment.
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by mimid615 September 14, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
As a certified teacher who homeschools and has written a book answering questions about homeschooling (So - WHY Do You Homeschool?), I am amused by the firm but unsupported opinions expressed by those who don''t homeschool. I have worked in public and private schools, and have talked to thousands of homeschoolers at conventions and tutorials. After an in-depth comparison across more than 15 years, I have concluded that the vast majority of home educated students are at least as well-socialized as publicly-schooled students. Statistics indicate that formerly home educated adults vote at nearly three times the rate of their publicly-educated peers, report rates of happiness that are double the national standard, and attend college level classes at more than 1 1/2 times the rate of other high school graduates. While not perfect, homeschools have a great record in general in producing well-educated, socially-responsible adults who participate positively in society. As a rule, I prefer to interact with the confident, well-socialized children who have learned their social skills from responsible adults than those who have been isolated with their socially-inexperienced peers in high schools. While I sympathize with the man who was not satisfied with the education he received from his family, I would request that those who received an inferior and socially-irresponsible public education speak up. There are many more people in that situation than in his.
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by hsmomto1-2009 September 14, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
I went to public school, and even graduated! Here is what I learned as far as socialization goes: get kicked, get hit, get called names, and how to have bad relationships. I was a quiet shy person, and still am. The public education I got did not teach me to work hard, but rather how to get by. I learned all the good morals and how to behave and have friends from my family, not the school or the hundreds of children I went to school with every day. Parents are to have the major influence (and protectors) in their childrens lives. why? Experience! I''ve been there, done that, and am not going to force that on my equally quiet and shy daughter. She is a joy and yes Mom makes sure she has friends her own age and those older and younger. Why? Because as adults we need to know how to get along with people of all ages, not just our peers! Hopefully we all get to grow up and be adults one day.
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by mimid615 September 14, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
As a certified teacher who homeschools and has written a book answering questions about homeschooling (So - WHY Do You Homeschool?), I am amused by the firm but unsupported opinions expressed by those who don''t homeschool. I have worked in public and private schools, and have talked to thousands of homeschoolers at conventions and tutorials. After an in-depth comparison across more than 15 years, I have concluded that the vast majority of home educated students are at least as well-socialized as publicly-schooled students. Statistics indicate that formerly home educated adults vote at nearly three times the rate of their publicly-educated peers, report rates of happiness that are double the national standard, and attend college level classes at more than 1 1/2 times the rate of other high school graduates. While not perfect, homeschools have a great record in general in producing well-educated, socially-responsible adults who participate positively in society. As a rule, I prefer to interact with the confident, well-socialized children who have learned their social skills from responsible adults than those who have been isolated with their socially-inexperienced peers in high schools. While I sympathize with the man who was not satisfied with the education he received from his family, I would request that those who received an inferior and socially-irresponsible public education speak up. There are many more people in that situation than in his.
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by bogatiriov September 14, 2008 6:15 PM EDT
Home schooling is great fro liberal and decent parents which most parents are, but increasingly i fear that a lot of us humans are becoming more fundamentalist and will tend to be home indoctrinating instead of home schooling.
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by republic1776 September 14, 2008 6:10 PM EDT
Why should I have to pay for your children to go to school?


That''s Socialism /Communism.
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by yongamerica September 14, 2008 6:04 PM EDT
For the large population of home school students the children really being indoctrinated to radical fundamental christian beliefs. Think of fundamentalist later day saints. Think of Scientology.

The most damaging aspect of this phenomenon is these religious fanatics are isolating their children which will inhibit or even prevent them from accepting the outside world, thus preventing them from developing into contributing citizens able to cope with mainstream America. In essence, these people are reverting to tribalism.
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by republic1776 September 14, 2008 5:54 PM EDT
michaelrsi,
So everybody should pay for your parents poor skills or abuse!
Americans right to choice should revolve around your "feelings"
Get a life
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by republic1776 September 14, 2008 5:47 PM EDT
Puzzler125,
Why can''t they teach it if the Parents went to public school?
Because it dumb them down.
Then it was a pure waste of tax dollars huh?
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by michaelrsi September 14, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
I was home schooled 1960 after second grade in a church school starting in 1960 to 1968. For eight years I didn''t have a close peer relationship. When I went back to the classroom my junior year I discovered I had no social skills. I''m, 56 today. I have read text books on Peer Relationships, and Peer socializing designed for people who have PhDs in behavioral science. I''ve read 23 HS books and about 50 books on children. HS is child abuse. The isolating HS is inhumane. There are no benefits from home schooling. Every home school book assumes the negatives don''t exist and are free to make up false advantages. They never experienced it so can''t see the severe harm. I lobbied the Oregon legislators in 1991 but legislators and governors are as blind as HS parents. See my 200 page book against HS:

www.homeschoolisolatinginvisibletorture.com, Michael R. Shearer, Tualatin, OR 97062, 503-692-1606
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by puzzler125 September 14, 2008 5:26 PM EDT
The parents I meet in Ohio are home-schooling for religious reasons and don''t want their children taught evolution. How many parents are skilled enough to teach algebra, geometry, trigonometry much less calculus? What about earth science, biology and how can a home-schooled child possibly learn chemistry and physics beyond absolute basics when there is no laboratory for experimentation? The regimentation in the average school day is a precursor to working a five day a week job which most people will do after college. Some of the students I tutored in college were grossly inadequate in basic writing, reading, and arithmetic skills and I''m very curious to see how the majority of home-schooled children do on standardized tests such as the ACT and SAT, and how well they do in college in general.
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by republic1776 September 14, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
The first public schools were in NYC.
The rich and elite wanted public education.
Why..to "dumb down" the common folk.
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by republic1776 September 14, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
donnie7992,
That%u2019s not a valid point.
I moved once during the summer , by the time school started I already befriended a mijority of my classmates.

It%u2019s all about Government Socialist indoctoration.
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