Comments on: Drawing The Line Between Church And State

A Closer Look At The Long History Behind Politics and Religion In America

[vet_sk]

prayer4u2 and other writes how many of the standard fair of America, Star Spangled Banner, etc, reference god.
It is an easy thing to invoke god especially when the "rockets red flare" is drawing close. But that does not make it a religious song/poem. Only that he invoked god a couple of time because Francis was raised as a Christian...and not because he discovered it Christian faith, but because he was brainwashed into it just has his parents and ancestors had.

Religion has no place in our common government.

[watcher269-2009]

Keep Religion OUT of Politics!

[closethippy1]

***obsessed about g.ays and abortion

[closethippy1]

I read an article somewhere about how younger church goers have different concerns than their elders. While their parents are obsessed about *** and abortion, they instead are much more concerned with the enviroment and peace.
I then sat back, lit up my "cigar" and thought to myself, "Yeah, baby, the future is here".

[nativewoman]

It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. ~ Thomas Jefferson

%u201CReligion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.%u201D ~ James Madison

%u201CTwenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, %u2018this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.%u2019%u201D John Adams in a letter to Charles Cushing (October 19, 1756)

%u201CI do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of....Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and of my own part, I disbelieve them all.%u201D ~ Thomas Paine

[neoconrcrazy]

If your constitution is godless, which god do you serve?

Posted by prayer4u2

US Constitution 1st Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

Feel free, fellow citizen, to sing any song, and frequent any church, synagogue, mosque, or synod but do not allow our system of government to be poisoned by intolerance, bigotry, and hatred. History has shown us this. Our Founders have spared us from it.

Let every man practice God''s teachings, but refrain from building momuments, like a government, to Him. That was surely not His wish.

And those man who wish to appear to lead "in God''s name" should remember His commandment;

"You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."

Bewaere of those claiming to act "in His name" - we have seen what the result has been these last 7 years.

merry christmas!

and happy new year America! May this be the last year of tyranny and deception, May a Nation of Laws and Reason be ours forever!

[jeff-fla]

prayer4u2.

O.K. people a few 1000 years ago needed to explaine the world. Come into the 21st century. Science has show us the truth. Most of the mystery of the world has been discovered and explained. The world is not flat. The earth is not the center of the universe. And god is not real. As for in being a part of the government. Well it needs to stay clear. Just look at other countries that the government imposes there version of god. ie Iran, Saudia Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan , and Israil. Would any one of us like to live like that? When a government is ruled by one flavor of god, it will always exclude all others. It is a no win for most, not just a few. What has always made the U.S.A. so strong is we do our best to include everyone not exclude most.

[matter77]

Notice that Newsweek doesn''t condemn the rejection of a candidate for having religious faith, any religious faith. THAT''S OK! They start squealing when their favorite candidate has failed. They''re no different than anyone else and their references to historic persons and documents don''t fool me.

[prayer4u2]

In God is our Trust is a KeyPhrase in the last verse of The Star-Spangled Banner: "Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war%u2019s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
%u201CIn God is our trust!%u201D (Psalms 16:1)
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Begin the trend as all U.S. sporting events should begin with the last verse of our National Anthem (a poem, a prayer, a song never wrong). Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry CHRISTmas

[prayer4u2]

My Country Tis of Thee last verse,
Our fathers''s God to Thee, Author of Liberty, to Thee we sing. Long may our land be bright, with freedoms'' Holy Light, protect us by Thy Might Great God our King! Protected by "our Lord" mentioned in the 7th Article of The U.S. Constitution. If your constitution is godless, which god do you serve?

[prayer4u2]

1st Amendment is freedom of religion not politics. The word politics is not to be found in the U.S. Constitution.

[prayer4u2]

7th Article of U.S. Constitution adopted & ratified "in the year of our Lord." Abe Lincoln was not a fool clearly understanding The Gift of our Judeo-Christian heritage was The Truth, Christ Jesus. So much for a godless Constitution. In God is our Trust is a KeyPhrase in the last verse of The Star-Spangled Banner: "Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war%u2019s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
%u201CIn God is our trust!%u201D (Psalms 16:1)
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry Christmas

[prayer4u2]

7th Article of U.S. Constitution adopted & ratified "in the year of our Lord." Abe Lincoln was not a fool clearly understanding The Gift of our Judeo-Christian heritage was The Truth, Christ Jesus. So much for a godless Constitution. In God is our Trust is a KeyPhrase in the last verse of The Star-Spangled Banner: "Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war%u2019s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
%u201CIn God is our trust!%u201D (Psalms 16:1)
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry Christmas

[prayer4u2]

7th Article of U.S. Constitution adopted & ratified "in the year of our Lord." Abe Lincoln was not a fool clearly understanding The Gift of our Judeo-Christian heritage was The Truth, Christ Jesus. So much for a godless Constitution. In God is our Trust is a KeyPhrase in the last verse of The Star-Spangled Banner: "Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war%u2019s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
%u201CIn God is our trust!%u201D (Psalms 16:1)
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry Christmas

[prayer4u2]

7th Article of U.S. Constitution adopted & ratified "in the year of our Lord." Abe Lincoln was not a fool clearly understanding The Gift of our Judeo-Christian heritage was The Truth, Christ Jesus. So much for a godless Constitution. In God is our Trust is a KeyPhrase in the last verse of The Star-Spangled Banner: "Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war%u2019s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
%u201CIn God is our trust!%u201D (Psalms 16:1)
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry Christmas

[prayer4u2]

7th Article of U.S. Constitution adopted & ratified "in the year of our Lord." Abe Lincoln was not a fool clearly understanding The Gift of our Judeo-Christian heritage was The Truth, Christ Jesus. So much for a godless Constitution. In God is our Trust is a KeyPhrase in the last verse of The Star-Spangled Banner: "Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war%u2019s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
%u201CIn God is our trust!%u201D (Psalms 16:1)
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry Christmas

[prayer4u2]

7th Article of U.S. Constitution adopted & ratified "in the year of our Lord." Abe Lincoln was not a fool clearly understanding The Gift of our Judeo-Christian heritage was The Truth, Christ Jesus. So much for a godless Constitution. In God is our Trust is a KeyPhrase in the last verse of The Star-Spangled Banner: "Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war%u2019s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
%u201CIn God is our trust!%u201D (Psalms 16:1)
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry Christmas

[usayesterday]

Not believing in religion does not make you an atheist. Religion separates us from God and from each other. Jesus defied religion and now religion defies His teachings. A true Christian finds God in their heart ... not in a church where they can learn to believe in the dogma of fools who think they know better than the Master Mind Jesus what our relationship to God is all about. If Huckleberry has no respect for our Constitution ... before he is elected ... what can we expect from him after he is elected?

Posted by paris1969 at 12:49 AM : Dec 24, 2007
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First, paris, I love your post! It is so accurate and honest, it is unfortunate that (especially the first four sentences) are not repeated regularly on these boards.

Second, Huckabee will not be elected.

By now (I hope), the majority of Americans realize that governing by a staunch ideology (ANY ideology), as opposed to logic...

...is more destructive to a nation than any other outside force/entity.

[prayer4u2]

My Country Tis of Thee (last verse)
Our Fathers'' God to Thee, Author of Liberty, To Thee We Sing. Long May our Land be bright with Freedoms'' Holy Light, Protect us by Thy Might, Great God, our King! That would be King Jesus of course, "so help me God" Federal Judiciary Act of 1789

[prayer4u2]

7th Article of U.S. Constitution adopted & ratified "in the year of our Lord." Abe Lincoln was not a fool clearly understanding The Gift of our Judeo-Christian heritage was The Truth, Christ Jesus. So much for a godless Constitution. In God is our Trust is a KeyPhrase in the last verse of The Star-Spangled Banner: "Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war%u2019s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
%u201CIn God is our trust!%u201D (Psalms 16:1)
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Also don''t forget Holy Trinity Church vs. U.S. Supreme Court Feb 29, 1892! Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry Christmas