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- Without a church, people would simply just stay home. No one would know anyone. They would just go to work, stick their nose in their computer, and snap at anyone that bothers them. Then, they hurry home, shut the door behind them, and never come out. Some people would just opt to stay home. Period. As many have, and have died in their homes without anyone knowing until the foul stench of the body began stinking up the neighborhood.
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- And, good pastors know people like MichelleM99, who is disabled, in a wheel chair, and can come to her and meet her needs even though she may never have been in church in her life. Pastors encourage their congregation to reach out to others with a positive message. And can effectively voice the needs of their congregation to a rep or senator.
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- If anyone is SUPPOSED to know their congregation, it is the elders, pastors, and people appointed over them. Therefore, these leaders can be an unbelievable tool for information about the genuine needs of the smallest local areas for our representatives and senators. They can know; how many poor, mid class, and upper class are in the congregation; how many poor they reach out to aid in homelessness, hunger, and to make acceptable the outcast. They can know exactly what areas are in need of educational programs, drug and alcohol rehab programs, and marriage enhancement and parenting programs. Furthermore, a unified religious order (several churches that share the same goal) can better aid the government in representing the genuinely poor, impoverished, and the sick and the lame. Churches are, basically, the watchtowers of the city. So, understand that, pastors who are involved in their communities KNOW, like a police officer or a social worker, everything about their slices of society; from the alcoholic on the street corner to the welfare mom with 5 kids; from the working poverty stricken to the middle class wage earner, to the upper class employer.
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- The way that I understand the Church''s role is that the organization should be well informed about the job market, surrounding organizations that share the same vision, should have a food and clothing closet (every church) to provide for the temporary needs of the TEMPORARILY unemployed, to provide for the needs of orphans, battered and abused women and children, and to mentally/spiritually prepare people to positively meet the world in a positive manner, and in a manner that God has prescribed.
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- This is my opinion about Church and State. I don''t agree that religious leaders should be politicians, per se, but rather, representatives of their congregations and their needs. The Biblical view of the church is so radically different from the traditional view of the church that it''s ridiculous. If the church and state were put in proper perspective, it can be seen how they can work together. Churches are social organizations designed to fill the needs of people for spiritual growth and closeness to God. These social organizations issue Biblical directives to freely give to the support of the organization (hence, tax free. It doesn''t take an act of Congress to build a church, just a few willing people). Then, it is to show compassion and love to people by spending time, inviting them to church, filling in the holes for food, clothing, and counseling for the poor. And, to teach the spiritually destitute how to be saved by Jesus Christ, and to follow the principles laid out in changing their ways and reaching out to other people to fill their needs.
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- I recommend watching FoxNews'' One Nation Under God on Christmas Eve & Christmas. It isn''t like CBS hit piece on religious divisions within the Judeo-Christian denominations.
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- Of The People, by The People, for The People...means we are the church & the state these two one can not separate because we are united which does not imply united for SEPARATION. United for separatism is still division.
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- CHRISTmas a FEDERALLY FUNDED HOLY DAY except for those trying to rewrite His Story in history, so much for separation. In 1777 Congress had Bibles printed during the Battle of Brandywine as the need was so great. Today I have grave doubts The People of Congress would attempt a return to truth "so help me God", Federal Judiciary Act of 1789. Law & Reason, Christ Jesus The Law-Giver & Reason for the Season. Yet, others will deny reason by denying the Reason for the Season. How unreasonable to continue to deny "our Lord" in the 7th Article of the U.S. Constitution.
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- Consider My Country Tis of Thee last verse,
Our fathers''''s God to Thee, Author of Liberty, to Thee we sing. Long may our land be bright, with freedoms'''' Holy Light, protect us by Thy Might Great God our King! Protected by "our Lord" mentioned in the 7th Article of The U.S. Constitution supposedly The Supreme Law of The Land. If your constitution is godless, which god do you serve? America has forgotten legal precedence in regard to Holy Trinity Church vs. U.S. Supreme Court Feb 29, 1892. - Reply to this comment
- IN GOD IS OUR TRUST is a KeyPhrase in the last verse of The Star-Spangled Banner: "Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the wars desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
IN GOD IS OUR TRUST Psalms 16:1
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Begin the trend as all U.S. sporting events should begin with the last verse of our National Anthem (a poem, a prayer, a song never wrong; 3 in One like our God). Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry CHRISTmas - Reply to this comment
- This is a Christian nation...Holy Trinity Church vs. U.S. Supreme documents over 87 legal precedants in that opinion alone. The Treaty of Tripoli (1787) declared we were not a Christian nation only to save American hostages held by Islamofacists & almost 200 years later Americans were held hostage during the Jimmy Carter administration. A war against terror since the inception of our nation. 7th Article of U.S. adopted "in year of our Lord" & all the denials doesn''t change that fact "so help me God", Federal Judiciary Act 1789
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- This is the problem...Too many churches each preaching something different. Each wanting yer money. Each wanting ye as a member. Who is right/wrong. Yer can''t handle it when told not here. Some do brain wash. Sep of church and state is the way it is. THANK YE FATHERS . God is in the heart. Merry Christmas.. America is not a Christian nation.. The Fathers did not want it to be. Ye can live a good life and never attend chruch.
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- It all boils down to our nature in the core of our heart. Are we Self or Christ driven? If Self we are left to our own direction, if Christ driven we are living by the power of the risen Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So you see we cannot really separate church from state only if we come from the direction of self. Through Christ we can live apart from our old nature.
It is really not an issue of separation of church and state. Its an issue of self, what you want when you want it and how you want it and Christ, this contains equal justice from an unselfish volition. This also contains love from an unbiased agenda. So really the self centered person really has not religion as an problem but self verses Christ. At the end the day that is who we will have to answer to. Whoever you may be. - Reply to this comment
- It all boils down to our nature in the core of our heart. Are we Self or Christ driven? If Self we are left to our own direction, if Christ driven we are living by the power of the risen Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So you see we cannot really separate church from state only if we come from the direction of self. Through Christ we can live apart from our old nature.
It is really not an issue of separation of church and state. Its an issue of self, what you want when you want it and how you want it and Christ, this contains equal justice from an unselfish volition. This also contains love from an unbiased agenda. So really the self centered person really has not religion as an problem but self verses Christ. At the end the day that is who we will have to answer to. Whoever you may be. - Reply to this comment
- Taking words out of context therein lies the Con when trying to make one out to be a con. Herein lies a truth when real eyes realize real lies. Whether or not reason is tested by faith in government or faith in science, people believe it or they don''t. Whatever the "it" is for the fading fad of the moment. Either you get it or you won''t & either way we still have free will to choose to believe in Santa or not. Is secular humanism the god America worships everyday of the year? America is deciding.
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- LOL so much for practicing what you preach...whatever happened to that revered moment of silence when nothing gets said & nothing gets done. Yet LOL still can not put forth any true discussion of the facts to negate any legal precedent mentioned previously. CBS can''t vouch for the U.S. Constitution when its in the public zone.
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- All United States sporting events will now be required to sing the last verse to The National Anthem to reflect "IN GOD IS OUR TRUST":
Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the wars desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
IN GOD IS OUR TRUST Psalms 16:1)
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Begin the trend as all U.S. sporting events should begin with the last verse of our National Anthem (a poem, a prayer, a song never wrong; 3 in One like our God). Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry CHRISTmas - Reply to this comment
- CHRISTmas a FEDERALLY FUNDED HOLY DAY except for those trying to rewrite His Story in history, so much for separation. In 1777 Congress had Bibles printed during the Battle of Brandywine as the need was so great. Today I have grave doubts The People of Congress would attempt a return to truth "so help me God", Federal Judiciary Act of 1789. Law & Reason, Christ Jesus The Law-Giver & Reason for the Season. Yet, others will deny reason by denying the Reason for the Season. How unreasonable to continue to deny "our Lord" in the 7th Article of the U.S. Constitution. Social Progressive Leftists look up what is right & Righteous, it is not unreasonable.
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- America has forgotten legal precedence in regard to Holy Trinity Church vs. U.S. Supreme Court Feb 29, 1892. I did my homework & recommend the same for others. If God is not part of ones constitution as one continue to deny "our Lord" contained in the U.S. Constitution, could it be said they have lost their god or their mind?
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- ILLEGAL? IN GOD IS OUR TRUST is a KeyPhrase in the last verse of The Star-Spangled Banner: "Oh! Thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the wars desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land (that''s U.S.) Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation! (that''s HIM!)
Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just, And this be our motto:
IN GOD IS OUR TRUST Psalms 16:1)
And The Star-Spangled Banner
in triumph shall wave O%u2019er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" If prayer is outlawed, then you have also outlawed the poem & song aka The National Anthem! Begin the trend as all U.S. sporting events should begin with the last verse of our National Anthem (a poem, a prayer, a song never wrong; 3 in One like our God). Happy Holy Days (holidays) & Merry CHRISTmas
My Country Tis of Thee last verse,
Our fathers''''s God to Thee, Author of Liberty, to Thee we sing. Long may our land be bright, with freedoms'''' Holy Light, protect us by Thy Might Great God our King! Protected by "our Lord" mentioned in the 7th Article of The U.S. Constitution supposedly The Supreme Law of The Land. If your constitution is godless, which god do you serve? America has forgotten legal precedence in regard to Holy Trinity Church vs. U.S. Supreme Court Feb 29, 1892. - Reply to this comment
