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Once Known For Its Oil And Gas, West Texas Is At The Center Of The Wind Energy Boom

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by radiob-2009 December 2, 2007 9:53 PM EST
What is the cost of producing electricty by this method vs. coal, water or nuclear? We as a nation have multiple mountain ranges and rivers to produce clean renewable energy.
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by cfin5 December 2, 2007 9:46 PM EST
You know, I think it is a good thing for our energy supply generators to be spread out all over the place. It makes them sorta'' "decentralized" given the current threats that our nation suffers.
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by radiob-2009 December 2, 2007 9:40 PM EST
Oil isnt used for electric power generation, another myth propogated by Liberal dumbasses.


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Posted by nameverify


What is the cost of this? What is the cost of producing electricty by this method that upsets you?
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by cfin5 December 2, 2007 9:38 PM EST
nameverify,......I know that oil is not used "directly" for power generation. There are plenty of reasons that it is indirectly though. My main reason is it helps our nations "attitude" to always use a better way to do it......Step by step if you please.
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by cfin5 December 2, 2007 9:30 PM EST
Good story! I''m no tree hugger, but I see a lot of "common sense" using wind, solar, and hydro-electric power for our needs.....ANYTHING to get us away from the middle-east crazies! Good for you Texas!
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by toolmangler-2009 December 2, 2007 9:27 PM EST
Put one of those windmills on Grandfather Mountain, run the wires here to me and I''ll give you all I don''t use for free.
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by radiob-2009 December 2, 2007 9:26 PM EST
radiob that has nothing to do with this story.


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Posted by nameverify


You were the one complaining about the conglomerates leasing the land.
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by toolmangler-2009 December 2, 2007 9:23 PM EST
Posted by radiob at 06:17 PM : Dec 02, 2007



Texas is full of hot air and that will help a lot.
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by radiob-2009 December 2, 2007 9:22 PM EST
nameverify
Yours is a old argument, my grandfather leased some of his land over 80 years ago for oil and it is still paying dividends to the remainding members of the family. The oil is no longer drilled out, the pumps are abandon and have been for decades. Difference is my grandfather was smart enough to have the oil company sign a 100 year lease regardless of production. So he made some money off of it, his children have and now with both grandparents deaths the remainding living children sold the property which appreciated in value over the years.
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by toolmangler-2009 December 2, 2007 9:19 PM EST
nothing there but methane producing material anyway.
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by radiob-2009 December 2, 2007 9:17 PM EST
How about if we ''''compost'''' them?





Posted by ToolMangler


As long as the plant is thousands of miles away from me where I do not have to smell it, why not?
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by toolmangler-2009 December 2, 2007 9:16 PM EST
just do not stand downwind of any of them.

Posted by radiob at 06:12 PM : Dec 02, 2007


How about if we ''compost'' them?
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by radiob-2009 December 2, 2007 9:14 PM EST
Take away the tax payer subsidies and the projects cant generate enough revenue to sustain themselves.


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Posted by nameverify

On what are you basing this? Did the political bedbugs tell you to write this?
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by radiob-2009 December 2, 2007 9:12 PM EST
Want free energy? Simple have all 436 representives including the president and the 17 wantabee presidents simply speak next to a wind mill. Lots of hot air, just do not stand downwind of any of them.
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by donbl1 December 2, 2007 9:01 PM EST
For the last several months I have been traveling on a highway that is the shortest route to West Texas from I35.

Every time I am on the highway (like yesterday) I see two windmills worth of blades go by. Lot of money and capacity going in out there. Texas lead the nation in alternative energy and those blades I see go right by the old oil fields in NW Texas that are still pumping......
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by bennyblack1 December 2, 2007 8:51 PM EST
I agree with paying taxes. I agree with registration on a car. I agree with paying for a driver''s license. I agree with paying penalties for breaking the law. However, what I do NOT agree with is conniving people finding ways to take ALL your money. Electricity is one of those ways. And it''s ridiculous.
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by bennyblack1 December 2, 2007 8:47 PM EST
The point is that there is too much corporate interest in land and power. A private enterprise cannot just buy land, put up a windmill, and expect to get free power. He should. It''s his. He created it. He built it. Why shouldn''t he have it for free? Well, then, he''s confronted by land rights, people wanting to buy him off, people wanting to feed off it, etc... If the man wants to sell it or share it, buy all means, he should, and without the conniving interference of someone else. He should be able to use it, share it, sell it, and run wiring to people''s houses either buy ground or air. We are needing a new innovation that will break through all the red tape that says, "I have to pay high rates, and compete with other large corporations." In all actuality, if I have an idea (which I do), if I patent it, build it, then I should not only be able to use it, but share it. The crazy thing about it? I would share it for free. There is no law that says I have to sell the rights to the patent, mass produce it, sell out so that no one else can use it, or take penny dividends from millions of dollars of overcharges. People need an alternative to spending outrageous costs for electricity. At this point, use of conventional electricity is only necessary as a back up, which would need to be paid for.
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by kwhirlo December 2, 2007 7:34 PM EST
First, Dale Rankin is a private business man and does Not make his money from oil. He bought his land as a sanctuary from urban life. Now it has become part of an industrial wind park.

Secondly, current Wind Energy has many aspects and the present boom in this arena is funded by federal subsidies for the wind mills (the machinery) themselves and a Texas agreement to run power lines (at the state%u2019s expense) to anyone who will put up an energy creating windmill. Thus, any reasonable wind energy company would put up a windmill that is subsidized by the federal government. As a bonus, the state pays for the line to take the power to a plant. What a great deal!

The problem in wind energy comes with the lack of legislation and judicial review in this relatively new area. Land adjacent to oil production is compensated for the devaluing of their land because they are near an industrial zone. There is no legislation as such on windmills.

When is comes to the power grid and the efficiency of windmills, there are problems with fluctuating speeds and rates of input from the sources. Coal plants must fire up and down to compensate for this changeability thus burning more coal than without the wind energy source and decreasing their overall efficiency as a coal plant.

Though catch phrases like %u201CHarvesting the Wind%u201D and %u201CFree Energy%u201D sound good. Reality doesn%u2019t always match up to marketing.
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by denn034 December 2, 2007 7:10 PM EST
With all of that available land, then, this makes sense for sure.
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by gkc99 December 2, 2007 6:58 PM EST
"To all the ******* Liberals who post here too often, the electricty market has almost nothing to do with the oil market. Oil is used to produce gasoline for cars, and rarely is used to generate electricity. Wind energy isnt a threat to the oil business. It is a threat to the natural gas business. If you dont know that much shut the f*ck up and dont volunteer to display your ignorance"--Posted by nameverify


You sure are full of sheeyit! So stuff a sock in it, *************.
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