Comments on: Scalia: Abortion Rights Not Constitutional

Supreme Court Justice Defends Positions In TV Debate With ACLU

[thebeachbum]

, The courts are repeatingly affirming the fetus is a Human and have rights given to All Americans under the Protection of our Constitution. The Right To Life ,Liberty and The right T
To the Pursuit of Happiness.
The right to choose! What? To end a life? Fla Courts already said a fetus (first trimester) is a human being , when a drunk driver was charged with manslaughter after causing a miscarriage. New york said the fetus is a Human being with rights when a child was able to sue the police after Police killed his dad when he was a fetus. A person was Charged with Murder after hitting a fetus ( the womans Abdomen) and causing the death of a Fetus. Another was charged with Murder after shooting and killing a fetus in South Carolina, Accross The Nation You see the courts sideing with the fetus , When ever a fetus is killed,as being a Human with rights. The only exception is when A mother decides to kill the fetus. call it what you want (A rose is a Rose). Murder is Murder. Manslaughter is Manslaughter.
If it is wrong for the Father to kill the fetus, under equal rights It must also be wrong for the mother. Our supreme Courts Must uphold the Rights for All, All equally applied. ;If it is Murder for the Father to kill the fetus, It then must be Murder for the Mother to kill the Fetus, or the Doctor. Now the Doctor!
As with Siamese Twins , Some times a Doctor Must Choose whom life he will save with immunity. Same with The Fetus and the Woman .

[blazercoach1]

passerby,
I'm glad to hear that we agree on the premise of my scenario. That person CANNOT, in fact, practice what he believes because it infringes on the rights of another person.
The argument against abortion is one that argues on behalf of the unborn child and recognizes him or her as a person.
Again, I offer the scientific argument for those who would call my views dogmatic:
If you found a liver on the side of the road....would you assume that it didn't belong to anyone? Can a bone exist without belonging to someone?
How would we determine who the owner of the bone or liver is? We would run a DNA test! Why? DNA identifies not only species, but specific membership within a species.
DNA is present at the moment of conception. The DNA is unique from the mother and the father. If you can't have a liver or bone without personal ownership, whose DNA is it?
Taking something as dogma often means you haven't bothered to ask an intelligent question. It doesn't mean that there isn't an answer or explanation readily available.

[newsjeff-2009]

I agree with the ACLU, but I have a stronger statement: Is America going to be the "Land of the free, home of the brave", or the "Land of the oppressed people, home of the weak-minded, and governed by political dictators". I miss the old Ronald Regan years, when we had Ronald Regan with real backbone, but minded his own business and focuses on running the country properly. The new republican party that has came into power since Bush became president in 2001, has not only suppressed abortion rights, which are a form of women's rights, the entire GOP has voted for and passed several things in the past few years that have taken lots of rights away from Americans, people just need to open their eyes and see it. The democrats like John F.Kennedy,Lyndon Johnson, and many others pushed for the civil right and women's rights changed of the 1960s, but here in election year 2006, the GOP has the nerve to say that the democrats were the main organizers of the KKK. Senator Byrd was at one time, but I read how he has denounced his membership and appologized for this mistake. The GOP party is a party that bottom line is: a party that looks out for rich people's interests,religious interests,and big business, big corporate interests, not the interest of everyday working-class Americans, plain and simple. Truth hurts doesn't it, too bad GOP political ads don't tell the truth!!!

[thebeachbum]

To Cathaleen
Yes, def Yes , I had a friend in the military that was a conception by rape , she was glad her mother did not Murder her. Ask those whom were conceived by incest or rape if they think their mother should have Murdred them.
get the point.

[oleander8]

Abortion is never going away - it has just become regulated and safer. If you think life begins at conception, don't have an abortion. You cannot legislate morality.

[passerby2]

smasterb,

Freedom to you isn't freedom to someone else, why is ones definition of something so vast be more correct than anothers. It's irresponsible when one person trys to force his/her beliefs onto another person. In a world as big as this one, a persons experience is vey limited, don't pass judgement so hastely, a person cannot truly understand until he/she has experienced.
No one is dragging Scalia's wife out to have an obortion just because it's legal. People decide to have an abortion because they have decided there situation dictates it, not because it's legal.

[optimas2]

Keybord,

You stated that our society has decided that limited access to abortion is preferrable . . .

But that's precisely Scalia's point: our society HASN'T decided that; rather, the Supreme Court has decided it, regardless of what society wants or does not want. Scalia says only that we should let society decide--let each state choose for itself whether it wants to allow or disallow abortion.

If we really want society to decide the issue of abortion, what's wrong with throwing it back to the states and letting each state decide for itself whether or not to legalize abortion?

[zeke423]

If a person doesn't have the right to make their own decisions, based on their own beliefs and faith, and moral compass, then what gives my fellow person the right to tell me how to live my life? Better yet, what gives me the right, as a man, to tell my wife/daughter/random woman how to live their life. Is not blasphemy a sin? If we can't govern ourselves and live by our own set of rules, how can that be expected of someone else?

[passerby2]

blasercoach1,

in response to your philosophical situation where the guy hops into another persons car and just drive off because he does not believe in personal possessions, the guy can believe in whatever he wants, but once he infringes on another persons rights then he has passed the line. He can give away all his things for all I care, but he can't take another person's belonging or rights.

[mjv2944]

blazercoach1

blazer, we have not done enough for women and children, but we have to stop the cycle of 1 to 4 children with no father to support them. But do you believe that the people who wrote the constitution had to deal with abortion or gay rights? I think not. Mandatory birth control through birth control pills or real education on prevention is not abortion in my book. Day after pill probably is, but I cannot judge.

[usawatchman]

(corrected)
PEOPLE EVERYTHING ELSE IS MOOT...

THESE JUDGES ARE NOT WORTHY TO REVIEW ANY LAWS
THAT WE MAY "" CONSENT "" to be GOVERNED BY..

[Rhoda Meier]

I rarely agree with Justice Scalia. But I have to agree with him that race has no place in deciding who goes to a school. As an indicator of diversity, it is very poor. Why should a black lawyer's child be admitted over a white bus driver's child? Would the student body be more diverse because of that choice?

Abortion is a very bad thing. But the alternatives are so much worse. I am old enough to remember when women were dying frequently because of botched abortions. I remember that my high school friends who had means took sudden vacations to Florida, where abortions were legal, and my friends who did not have that choice dropped out and became unwed mothers. One, a petite 16-year-old, died in childbirth. One was emprisoned for abuse of her unwanted child.

Most abortions are not chosen lightly. Anyone who has had one knows the physical and emotional trauma they cause. But our society has decided that limited access to abortion is preferable to the death and destruction caused by lack of a legal path to abortion. Scalia must honor that.

[usawatchman]

PEOPLE EVERYTHING ELSE IS MOOT...

THESE JUDGES ARE NOT WORTHY TO REVIEW AND LAWS
THAT WE MAY "" CONSENT "" to be GOVERNED BY..

[usawatchman]

For those who want the case number, and remember at this point (U.S. Supreme Court)
these CROOKS are DEEP into the COVER-UP of their CRIMES
(example: Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Mail / Wire Fraud, Tampering with evidence..etc)


UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
James B. Veasaw v. Cari M. Domingues,et al.
No: 05-1467

The Petition for Writ of Certiorari was denied

The court RULED by NONFEASANCE
that the POLITICIANS and BUREAUCRATS are IMMUNE to
COMMIT CRIMES against the People
without the fear of RETRIBUTION in the COURTS

FYI = The Questions presented to the Court

1) Are State and Federal Employees IMMUNE to commit CRIMES against the PEOPLE in order to GAIN the upper hand in a Court Case or
Administrative investigation and/or Process , without any fear of RETRIBUTION in the COURTS?
2) Are FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAMS accessible by All Citizen for whom the programs were designed for, or are they just really WORK
PROGRAMS designed to give CRONIES and BUREAUCRATS high paying Jobs?
3) Must the citizens of this country PASS LITERARY TESTS in order to receive PROTECTION in the COURTS
(i.e. say the "MAGIC WORDS" for justice)
(i.e. put the "MAGIC WORDS" on " MAGIC PAPER ")?
4) Are theses laws CONSTITUTIONAL, If these laws are not EQUALLY apply to ALL (STATE, FEDERAL, CORPORATE)?
5) I think (are) ALL of you ARE CORRUPT ?
6) CAN THE PETITIONER GET MORE JUSTICE WITH A $10 BOX OF AMMO, THAN WHAT CAN EVER BE FOUND IN ALL THE CORRUPT UNITED STATES COURT
ROOMS.?

[cathaleen]

I have one question for the righteous?

If your daughter came home pregnant as a result of rape or got pregnant maybe by a overzealous relative. Or let's say she had an affair with a person of a different race?
She's underage. What would you do? Make her have that child?

[optimas2]

Dr. Lou,

Indeed, certain individual rights WERE written into the Constitution--specific, textual rights, such as free speech or right to petition the government or a right to a jury trial, for instance.

Scalia's point is that abortion isn't one of those rights. So then, if you still think it's a right protected by the document, who decides which rights belong as those protected by the Constitution--and which don't? Should it be judges, acting as a quasi-House of Lords, or should it be the citizenry? Scalia advocates for the latter. If the public agrees that abortion should be protected as a constitutional right, have the debate and amend the constitution. What's so hard about that?

[thebeachbum]

The right to choose! What? To end a life? Fla Courts already said a fetus (first trimester) is a human being , when a drunk driver was charged with manslaughter after causing a miscarriage. New york said the fetus is a Human being with rights when a child was able to sue the police after Police killed his dad when he was a fetus. A person was Charged with Murder after hitting a fetus ( the womans Abdomen) and causing the death of a Fetus. Another was charged with Murder after shooting and killing a fetus in South Carolina, Accross The Nation You see the courts sideing with the fetus , When ever a fetus is killed,as being a Human with rights. The only exception is when A mother decides to kill the fetus. call it what you want (A rose is a Rose). Murder is Murder. Manslaughter is Manslaughter.
If it is wrong for the Father to kill the fetus, under equal rights It must also be wrong for the mother. Our supreme Courts Must uphold the Rights for All, All equally applied. ;If it is Murder for the Father to kill the fetus, It then must be Murder for the Mother to kill the Fetus, or the Doctor. Now the Doctor!
As with Siamese Twins , Some times a Doctor Must Choose whom life he will save with immunity. Same with The Fetus and the Woman

[usawatchman]

These people (Judges)are corrupt as the day is long...I was denied DUE PROCESS because I failed one of the courts LITERARY TESTS.. so much for a country of the people, more a country of the BIG BUCKS AND CORRUPT POLITICIANS..!

SEC = SELLING GOVERNMENT JOBS
That's right, the SEC is selling INFLUENCE
(print before it disappears)

The Markets and the Courts are RIGGED
and the politicians are CORRUPT, and are SELLING this Country (USA) out

The SEC got caught SELLING and/or GIVING AWAY GOVERNMENT JOBS
to a REGULATORY AGENCY and
the US SUPREME COURT Not only allowed them,
it allowed these GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES (SEC, EEOC, DOL)
to COMMIT CRIMES against the PEOPLE...

and the COURTS then helped them COVER IT UP..

EVERYONE, the USA is heading for a DICTATORSHIP
AMERICANS LOST THEIR RIGHTS

[blazercoach1]

MJV2944..

We do agree with your last point. Start holding the fathers more accountable.

My original statement that has long since scrolled away stated:

As a society, we have not done enough for women and children..that is the great tragedy that has helped create this horrible situation.

[blazercoach1]

mjv2944

"Mandatory birth control"!!!! I thought we were all in agreement that forced abortions would be a bad thing?! Are you advocating them? (You do realize that MANY folks think birth control and abortion are the same thing, don't you?)

But you advocate mandatory birth control...for whom? Everyone? Or just the poor? The dumb? The folks you disagree with? Please give us the criteria that you would set down for "mandatory birth control."