New Arizona Immigration Law continues to Test Definitions of Freedom in the US. Latest events show that it's impossible to stop illegal immigration, it is impossible to deport 100% illegals, those are just fantasies. Arizona's next target 'Anchor babies', what is next? Debate at http://immigration.civiltalks.com
Perhaps state border controls with National Guard troop checkpoints is only answer since national agencies cannot get a handle on US mandate to stop and prevent illegal immigration at US border.
So until US elected federal government can stem hemorrhage of illegal persons freely flowing across US borders or round up to identify, detain, deport, and put an end to anonymous waves of illegitimate arrivals each state may have to control who roams around our country.
What can be done to eliminate the all enticing carrot and enhance the emergent stick to stop illegal immigration wretchedness.
US national, state, and local policy and attitude is condoning illegal human trafficking ebbing and flowing through our own international back door porous borders and across interstate domestic borders.
Arizona is ready to make the tough call and do something proactive or preventive. Leadership in action.
Illegal immigration is a criminal activity. Nature of this type of illegal activity is it lends itself to smooth the progress of or conceal other illicit activity. It must be tackled.
Crime prevention is better and less expensive than cure.
How about clear cut international treaties mandating reciprocal citizenship of mother transfers to illegal newborns of illegal alien mothers country of origin. Like reciprocal expatriation.
Holding back of US tax dollar international aid money in amount to cover all costs of welfare or other tax burden funded programs to raise a kid until 18 for each new US citizen forced upon us by virtue of birth to an illegal alien still within our borders.
Need better policy and action value for our US tax cash.
Stop all legal immigration until US can get a handle on all illegal immigration. US tax payers cannot afford to fund both.
This is a self inflicted US national policy ill that needs leadership treatment at national and state levels.
How about swift increase in death penalty rates carried out in each state to reduce tax burden of new US citizens born to illegal aliens. Population and tax burden offset.
Perhaps do away with all laws and just let street justice or Wild West justice prevail.
A cultural and economic decline with disruption following a decline of a once ordered and law abiding country might focus appreciation back on why we have laws.
Failing to acknowledge problem of, maintain status quo, or failing to act to aggressively, fast enough to halt illegal immigration will topple very premise of why we even have a US Constitution or laws in the first place.
US taxpayers can no longer afford to be so internationally generous and gullible.
All US laws and the US Constitution must be clearly changed, amended, and enforced to stop any hint of reward from illegal immigration.
Federal, state, and local budget tightening must mean lawful US citizen tax money used more on lawful Americans and legal immigrants who entered documented via US front door and less on all foreign citizens who evaded our border controls to invade or occupy US territory via undocumented illegal back door skullduggery.
America first, for Americans.
No person born to any illegal alien or foreign citizen criminal within US borders should be granted any hint of freebie US citizenship or any other lawful citizen right or entitlement.
Undocumented, non visa holding, unofficial status newborns must be treated as criminal or illegal as mom who entered or stayed illegally, violated visa conditions or any other measure of integrity thus all must be detained by law enforcement and robustly deported pronto from our sovereign country.
Stop the growing generational succession of illegal US entry, unselective US citizenship short cut expectations, and rife freeloading trickery to reap generous US tax funded benefits by dodging US authority and US laws to occupy unhindered space within US borders and then start milking our US system and US good nature.
Fruit of the Poisonous Tree concept is derived from Gospel of Matthew.
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7 17 20.
Anyone issued US visas with legal alien status who presented themselves for US government scrutiny are always welcome and deserve our support.
Integrity and good behavior should get all the reward for honesty and waiting patiently in line to do the right thing and document a legal entry.
Illegal anything should not be rewarded by default or legal loopholes.
Enhance tax paying US citizen freedoms by fixing broken, outdated, or abused laws.
Border controls and protection must mean something of value to those who pay for it.
Where is the story of the Mexican government taking 13 reporters to the south east part of Mexico to show them how safe it is to visit Mexico????? They were kidnapped,released later but taken by banditos,Guess that was a bust on the Mexican Governments part to show that tourism is safe in Mexico.
About time Illegals must not be allowed to have legally born children here. We need to stop these welfare children now and save millions in Tax dollars supporting them for their Parents.
If your illegal go home!!! Come into our country like all the legals. Do not come here raping and killing innocent people, pushing your drugs and living off the backs of taxpayers with your free medical, schools, hot lunches, and all the perks we are PAYING for out of our pockets-we have enough to pay for without a bunch of free loaders!!! They come into the border towns and use the hosiptals to have their babies and then walk out without paying a dime, has caused some hospitals to close along the borders-especially in Texas.
Actually yes I have - like variable said, we all read them in school.
But even if I hadn't; logical thinking is enough to understand that if each and every state in our 50 state union starts making its own decisions concerning citizenship and borders and illegal alliens - then we won't BE a country - we'll be 50 separate countries.
It is the LAW !
What part of "legal" do you not understand ?
Racist arizona is trying to take over federal role.
Squawk all you want , it won't happen.
Sen. Pearce is right on.Those who argue that illegals not not receive welfare money have been hiding the facxt that their anchor babies get welfare as soon as they drop from the womb. There are illegal families with 5,6, 10 kids on the welfare rolls. The liberal argument that illegals do not receive welfare is a lie, all they do is plop out an anchor baby and we have to pay for it. Viva Russell Pearce! Viva SB 1070!
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
"There is no provision in the 14th Amendment for the declaration of citizenship to children born here to illegal aliens."
I do not see anywhere where the "All" in the first quote equals the exception in the second quote. Unless the definition of "All" is changed I see no grounds for this new Arizona law.
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Arizona's next target 'Anchor babies', what is next?
Debate at http://immigration.civiltalks.com
Perhaps state border controls with National Guard troop checkpoints is only answer since national agencies cannot get a handle on US mandate to stop and prevent illegal immigration at US border.
So until US elected federal government can stem hemorrhage of illegal persons freely flowing across US borders or round up to identify, detain, deport, and put an end to anonymous waves of illegitimate arrivals each state may have to control who roams around our country.
What can be done to eliminate the all enticing carrot and enhance the emergent stick to stop illegal immigration wretchedness.
US national, state, and local policy and attitude is condoning illegal human trafficking ebbing and flowing through our own international back door porous borders and across interstate domestic borders.
Arizona is ready to make the tough call and do something proactive or preventive. Leadership in action.
Illegal immigration is a criminal activity. Nature of this type of illegal activity is it lends itself to smooth the progress of or conceal other illicit activity. It must be tackled.
Crime prevention is better and less expensive than cure.
How about clear cut international treaties mandating reciprocal citizenship of mother transfers to illegal newborns of illegal alien mothers country of origin. Like reciprocal expatriation.
Holding back of US tax dollar international aid money in amount to cover all costs of welfare or other tax burden funded programs to raise a kid until 18 for each new US citizen forced upon us by virtue of birth to an illegal alien still within our borders.
Need better policy and action value for our US tax cash.
Stop all legal immigration until US can get a handle on all illegal immigration. US tax payers cannot afford to fund both.
This is a self inflicted US national policy ill that needs leadership treatment at national and state levels.
How about swift increase in death penalty rates carried out in each state to reduce tax burden of new US citizens born to illegal aliens. Population and tax burden offset.
Perhaps do away with all laws and just let street justice or Wild West justice prevail.
A cultural and economic decline with disruption following a decline of a once ordered and law abiding country might focus appreciation back on why we have laws.
Failing to acknowledge problem of, maintain status quo, or failing to act to aggressively, fast enough to halt illegal immigration will topple very premise of why we even have a US Constitution or laws in the first place.
All US laws and the US Constitution must be clearly changed, amended, and enforced to stop any hint of reward from illegal immigration.
Federal, state, and local budget tightening must mean lawful US citizen tax money used more on lawful Americans and legal immigrants who entered documented via US front door and less on all foreign citizens who evaded our border controls to invade or occupy US territory via undocumented illegal back door skullduggery.
America first, for Americans.
No person born to any illegal alien or foreign citizen criminal within US borders should be granted any hint of freebie US citizenship or any other lawful citizen right or entitlement.
Undocumented, non visa holding, unofficial status newborns must be treated as criminal or illegal as mom who entered or stayed illegally, violated visa conditions or any other measure of integrity thus all must be detained by law enforcement and robustly deported pronto from our sovereign country.
Stop the growing generational succession of illegal US entry, unselective US citizenship short cut expectations, and rife freeloading trickery to reap generous US tax funded benefits by dodging US authority and US laws to occupy unhindered space within US borders and then start milking our US system and US good nature.
Fruit of the Poisonous Tree concept is derived from Gospel of Matthew.
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7 17 20.
Anyone issued US visas with legal alien status who presented themselves for US government scrutiny are always welcome and deserve our support.
Integrity and good behavior should get all the reward for honesty and waiting patiently in line to do the right thing and document a legal entry.
Illegal anything should not be rewarded by default or legal loopholes.
Enhance tax paying US citizen freedoms by fixing broken, outdated, or abused laws.
Border controls and protection must mean something of value to those who pay for it.
But even if I hadn't; logical thinking is enough to understand that if each and every state in our 50 state union starts making its own decisions concerning citizenship and borders and illegal alliens - then we won't BE a country - we'll be 50 separate countries.
What part of "legal" do you not understand ?
Racist arizona is trying to take over federal role.
Squawk all you want , it won't happen.
"There is no provision in the 14th Amendment for the declaration of citizenship to children born here to illegal aliens."
I do not see anywhere where the "All" in the first quote equals the exception in the second quote. Unless the definition of "All" is changed I see no grounds for this new Arizona law.