Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton ,John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry, Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery, Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott, William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris, Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark, Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross, Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean, Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton, William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn, Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
AND NOT ONE HAD A SWISS BANK ACCOUNT!
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Be careful, remember Thomas Jefferson and many of the others had a very close relationship with the Rothschild Family, John Handcock was one of the most wealthy in the Colonies (and lived in England for a while) and even George Washington was worth more that twice what Romney is (in todays dollars).
Too bad you hate "rich" people, you must be a very jealous and envious peoson.
Ahh ... very true but many of the names listed including Thomas Jefferson saw the issues with consolidation of power, the influence of money and sought to limit the impacts of these influences on politics. To even attempt to compare many of the founding fathers to Mitt or many of the 1 percenters today is at best delusional. Don't try and confuse the issue.
I am by no means envious of rich people nor do I hate them I just think that its hard to govern the masses when you are so out of touch with the masses reality. I would think you would like what's best for the country and to help those who cannot help themselves rather than continuing corporate welfare and lining poeple whose pockets are already full.
No I don't claim to decided when pockets are full enough but I think it is obvious to most what is fair enough especially when it comes to the tax code. Most deductions and loopholes are only available to those with money already. I don't know many middle class folks that worried about dividend tax rates but I know a lot of wealthy people who have the money to make a lot off of dividends. Yes their bracket may be higher but their effective tax rate is below that of the middle class. So who is really gaining from this system and who is suffering?
Off shore accounts, undisclosed assets (that fortunately is past the statute of limitations for when he was Gov of Mass), etc... I can just imagine the demogogery that would be occurring if this was Obama but the right will give a pass to Mitt. I'd be curious if Mitt was one of the folks who took advantage of the amnesty the IRS announced a while back for those hiding money overseas to avoid taxes?
In any event the sad fact is that to be a politician takes money and for the most part that puts most politicians above the typical American. Their interests lie with job preservation, money, corporate interests and if your lucky the general public comes in a distant 4th. I am not saying all are like that but I certainly think the majority are and Mitt is in an even more elite class of the have and have mores and is not someone I would want running this country ... EVER!
Sorry seab_ass, but our government is not in the business of "making money," but making sure that government works for all -- not just the oligarchic plutocracy like mittens and drama queen ann.
Hiding millions offshore, shipping middle class jobs offshore, and making sure that the ultra-wealthy continue to get a bigger and bigger piece of the pie while not paying their FAIR SHARE (where's mitten's 2011 tax return, BTW?) is not good government at all.
The real job creators are the middle class consumers -- not the uber-wealthy plutocrats investing offshore!
It is astounding to me that people defend a system that favors the minority of wealthy people in this country at the expense of the majority middle class. Whether it be tax codes, corporate welfare (seabass you neglected to mention those "welfare" programs to people and corporations that don't even need it). And yes the middle class consumers are the job creators ... who else is going to buy all they stuff that makes rich people rich?
Take them away and then see where the economy goes ...
I also in general am 50/50 on welfare, yes it is abused but as part of a civilized society we have to take care of those who cannot take care of themselves. Who those peope are can be debated endlessly but you cannot just through people on the streets and let them starve.
"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members."
And to be clear I am not defending that not one bit. There is many things that can be done to improve the quality and effectiveness of assistance but to say abandoned it all is irresponsible. There does exist people in society that cannot fend for themselves for whatever the reason. In my opinion these people, even if there is abuse in the system, desreve help far more than corporations that make millions and even billions in profits. There is nothing irresponsible about cutting out this spending and work your way down the line and see how far you get.
At least for me it has to start with ending the subsidies, loopholes and advatages that favor those people and buinsesses that don't need it.
When Mitt's father ran for president in 1968, he released 12 years of tax returns. He stated "one year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show." Mitt has released one year, and that revealed he had declared accounts in Bermuda, The Cayman Islands and Switzerland. All countries that are tax havens and have secrecy laws to protect depositors. Not illegal, but highly suspect. Why not Germany, France or Italy? He may and I repeat may release a later year tax return, but he can't release a previous year. You see Mitt doesn't like to pay taxes. When he worked for Bain, they lobbied for the tax break that allows them to pay 15% on carried interest. When they wanted to close the loophole, Bain spent millions again on lobbying. When he was on the board of directors of Marriott, he was Audit Chairman. He reduced their tax rate to 6.8% through offshore tax dodges and sleazy loopholes. Enough of this, the real story starts below.
In 2009 the IRS had a tax amnesty for people that had money in undeclared Swiss bank accounts. The IRS was given a list of 4,500 names, and let the financial world know they were going to go after these people. More than 30,000 people came forward and the government collected 2.7 billion in taxes and penalties. The company that came forward with these names was UBS, the same company that Mitt has his "declared" account with. Some believe up to 10 trillion dollars are stashed in tax havens by Americans. His staff was sweating bullets in January when he released his tax release. Now that there are calls for him to release his previous tax returns, they are back in panic mode. They have no way to explain the mysterious appearing accounts and the sudden surge in assets. If he does release them, look for white out and a copy of Photo Shop at his campaign office.
"... And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton ,John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry, Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery, Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott, William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris, Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark, Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross, Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean, Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton, William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn, Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
And I'll just bet that none of them were corporate raiders either, running hedge funds and destroying American jobs for maximized profits of a very few!
"... And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton ,John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry, Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery, Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott, William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris, Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark, Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross, Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean, Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton, William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn, Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
... AND NOT ONE OF THESE MEN HAD A SWISS BANK ACCOUNT!
Mitt is a flip flopping idiot and his party is mostly made up of fools and dupes being lead around by the nose by some very, very greedy and mean people who think they own the USofA, lock, stock and barrel!
Certainly brings to mind corporate raider Gordon Gekko from the movie 'Wall Street,' who said:
"The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, five trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work, two thirds comes from inheritance, interest on interest accumulating to widows and idiot sons and what I do, stock and real estate speculation. It's bullshiit. You got ninety percent of the American public out there with little or no net worth. I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal. The news, war, peace, famine, upheaval, the price per paper clip. We pick that rabbit out of the hat while everybody sits out there wondering how the hell we did it. Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy?"
jmn122736: "I have to agree to at least one success for Mitt Romney, he is a very successful CON MAN, modeled after his IDOL Joseph Smith, a convicted fraud/con-man who created Mormonism and achieved huge personal gain."
Yes, and like all CON men, willard romney doesn't talk about his cultist religion, his vulture capitalism or his offshore accounts, and would rather just make this election on his endless personal attacks on President Obama.
Truth is, mannequin mitt is a plastic man hiding his wealth from the American people, and will only help the plutocrats finish the job that george wmd bush started on our evaporating middle class!
Romney's undisclosed offshore assets, including Sankaty co. in Bermuda, hint at greater wealth
===== marychgo: "The fact remains that his career is a classic example of everything that's WRONG with U.S. tax laws and the U.S. financial system for the last 30 years!" =====
Yes, willard romney's vast hording of wealth as a vulture capitalist by hiding it overseas in offshore accounts, while not wanting to disclose his 2011 tax return, only proves how the wealthy have gamed the system through 30+ years of changing the tax code and financial system to benefit the plutocrats while screwing the middle class.
No wonder the mittster cannot connect with the average American, and his like-ability factor is in the toilet!
Give it up.....the average politician is worth far less than willard romney and his $300+ million, offshore accounts he won't even discuss and his 2011 tax return he won't even show the American people!
We deserve much better than the president of the oligarchic plutocracy, certainly not going to be helpful for the middle class!
Yeah, give it up, DJ,many politicians have money, but all are able to give 5 to 10 years tax returns and none have Swiss bank accounts, let alone Cayman Island accounts...now it's Bermuda. Where else is this president wannabe's money parked. No wonder our economy's screwed up, he's part of the reason. Plutocrats like Myth have their money stimulating foreign economies like Cayman, Bermudan and Swiss economies not American economies but we're suppoe to believe he'll help the usa get better. Fat chance.
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Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton ,John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry, Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery, Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott, William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris, Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark, Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross, Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean, Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton, William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn, Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
AND NOT ONE HAD A SWISS BANK ACCOUNT!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Be careful, remember Thomas Jefferson and many of the others had a very close relationship with the Rothschild Family, John Handcock was one of the most wealthy in the Colonies (and lived in England for a while) and even George Washington was worth more that twice what Romney is (in todays dollars).
Too bad you hate "rich" people, you must be a very jealous and envious peoson.
I am by no means envious of rich people nor do I hate them I just think that its hard to govern the masses when you are so out of touch with the masses reality. I would think you would like what's best for the country and to help those who cannot help themselves rather than continuing corporate welfare and lining poeple whose pockets are already full.
In any event the sad fact is that to be a politician takes money and for the most part that puts most politicians above the typical American. Their interests lie with job preservation, money, corporate interests and if your lucky the general public comes in a distant 4th. I am not saying all are like that but I certainly think the majority are and Mitt is in an even more elite class of the have and have mores and is not someone I would want running this country ... EVER!
Hiding millions offshore, shipping middle class jobs offshore, and making sure that the ultra-wealthy continue to get a bigger and bigger piece of the pie while not paying their FAIR SHARE (where's mitten's 2011 tax return, BTW?) is not good government at all.
The real job creators are the middle class consumers -- not the uber-wealthy plutocrats investing offshore!
Take them away and then see where the economy goes ...
I also in general am 50/50 on welfare, yes it is abused but as part of a civilized society we have to take care of those who cannot take care of themselves. Who those peope are can be debated endlessly but you cannot just through people on the streets and let them starve.
"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members."
At least for me it has to start with ending the subsidies, loopholes and advatages that favor those people and buinsesses that don't need it.
In 2009 the IRS had a tax amnesty for people that had money in undeclared Swiss bank accounts. The IRS was given a list of 4,500 names, and let the financial world know they were going to go after these people. More than 30,000 people came forward and the government collected 2.7 billion in taxes and penalties. The company that came forward with these names was UBS, the same company that Mitt has his "declared" account with. Some believe up to 10 trillion dollars are stashed in tax havens by Americans. His staff was sweating bullets in January when he released his tax release. Now that there are calls for him to release his previous tax returns, they are back in panic mode. They have no way to explain the mysterious appearing accounts and the sudden surge in assets. If he does release them, look for white out and a copy of Photo Shop at his campaign office.
"The point is ladies and gentlemen that greed, for lack of a better word, is good."
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton ,John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry, Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery, Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott, William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris, Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark, Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross, Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean, Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton, William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn, Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
AND NOT ONE HAD A SWISS BANK ACCOUNT!
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton ,John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry, Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery, Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott, William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris, Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark, Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross, Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean, Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton, William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn, Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
... AND NOT ONE OF THESE MEN HAD A SWISS BANK ACCOUNT!
Shameful.
"The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, five trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work, two thirds comes from inheritance, interest on interest accumulating to widows and idiot sons and what I do, stock and real estate speculation. It's bullshiit. You got ninety percent of the American public out there with little or no net worth. I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal. The news, war, peace, famine, upheaval, the price per paper clip. We pick that rabbit out of the hat while everybody sits out there wondering how the hell we did it. Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy?"
Yes, and like all CON men, willard romney doesn't talk about his cultist religion, his vulture capitalism or his offshore accounts, and would rather just make this election on his endless personal attacks on President Obama.
Truth is, mannequin mitt is a plastic man hiding his wealth from the American people, and will only help the plutocrats finish the job that george wmd bush started on our evaporating middle class!
=====
marychgo: "The fact remains that his career is a classic example of everything that's WRONG with U.S. tax laws and the U.S. financial system for the last 30 years!"
=====
Yes, willard romney's vast hording of wealth as a vulture capitalist by hiding it overseas in offshore accounts, while not wanting to disclose his 2011 tax return, only proves how the wealthy have gamed the system through 30+ years of changing the tax code and financial system to benefit the plutocrats while screwing the middle class.
No wonder the mittster cannot connect with the average American, and his like-ability factor is in the toilet!
We deserve much better than the president of the oligarchic plutocracy, certainly not going to be helpful for the middle class!
Plutocrats like Myth have their money stimulating foreign economies like Cayman, Bermudan and Swiss economies not American economies but we're suppoe to believe he'll help the usa get better. Fat chance.