Do you think the "Supreme" joke will strike down Romneycare? A law that was passed with a majority of Congress? That would be unprecedented as far as I know.
Reading and watching reactions to the Supreme Courts decision cracks me up. Most people who declare Arizona a loser never even knew about the other provisions. Arizonans know that the provision that was upheld was the key provision in the first place. The other provisions were thrown in for good measure. Arizona got what Arizona wanted.
They just overstepped into fascism which is what Republicons really want. They want a few rich white men to decide everything. That way they don't need freedom or democracy or to decide anything for themselves. It's how Republicons roll.
by occupy_cbs June 26, 2012 8:45 AM EDT It's a fact that "illegal immigration from Mexico has plummeted in recent years" since the peak in 2006, yet we have political hacks like justice scalia from the activist right-wing robert's court, acting more like a fox political network propagandist spewing nothing but political rhetoric to the contrary!
The federal government "does not want to enforce the immigration laws as written, and leaves the States' borders unprotected against immigrants whom those laws would exclude," scalia alleged, despite it being ONE BIG LIE, as facts show illegal immigration has slowed and deportations of criminals has soared! _______________________________
Calm down. Illegal immigration is fueled by available work - they come here looking for work. There's no available work now that the economy is in the tank. That's why illegal immigration has dropped, not because of "enforcement" or Obama's policies.
This does prove, however, that Illegal Immigration can be neutralized if we make the environment so inhospitable that they don't bother coming here. So, this law is an excellent step in the right direction to achieving that end. Now, with aggressive targeting of employers who employ illegals (fine a few of them so heavily they go out of business - watch the work dry up for illegals) Presto!! Wholesale Reverse Immigration!
We won't even have to waste money weeding them out and deporting them.
Not a big deal now because the DHS of Obama Administration stop cooperating with States that have kind of Arizona immigration laws. But it'a big deal with Administrations that would order close cooperation between DHS and States in future.
by JamesSao June 26, 2012 7:54 AM EDT What? No call from the left about right wing astivist judges making law? We'll see about that sentiment after tomorrow's release of its verdict on ObamaCare.
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Both laws had provisions in it that will be (or has been) struck down by the Supreme Court.
raptor-022: Immigration from Mexico plummeted well before Arizona law
The Supreme Court upheld the most controversial portion of Arizona's immigration law Monday, clearing the way for police officers in the state to ask about a person's immigration status during routine stops. Whether this tactic will deter future border crossings will be difficult to measure, however, because illegal immigration from Mexico has plummeted in recent years. There are many factors that have probably contributed to this decline, chief among them the fact that there are more border patrol agents on the ground and fewer jobs for those who do make it to America.
It's a fact that "illegal immigration from Mexico has plummeted in recent years" since the peak in 2006, yet we have political hacks like justice scalia from the activist right-wing robert's court, acting more like a fox political network propagandist spewing nothing but political rhetoric to the contrary!
The federal government "does not want to enforce the immigration laws as written, and leaves the States' borders unprotected against immigrants whom those laws would exclude," scalia alleged, despite it being ONE BIG LIE, as facts show illegal immigration has slowed and deportations of criminals has soared!
What? No call from the left about right wing astivist judges making law? No outcry as to the unfairness to the states for trying to protect its citizens? No cry from the latinino-american population that these 'illegals' are stealing their jobs? (and they do and are) Maybe the SCOTUS really is not activist? hmmmm.... We'll see about that sentiment after tomorrow's release of its verdict on ObamaCare.
Sure bubba -- this robert's court is the most activist right-wing court ever, and scalia would be more at home on the fox political network!
Scalia also repeatedly referenced Obama's policy of prosecutorial discretion, which directs Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to prioritize deporting the illegal immigrants who are frequent border crossers, have committed crimes, or recently entered the country illegally. The Obama administration has deported a record number of illegal immigrants, but its prosecutorial discretion policy still draws the ire of illegal immigration hawks.
Scalia directly referred to Obama's immigration enforcement policy as "lax" at one point.
Arizona's entire immigration law should be upheld, Scalia wrote, because it is "entitled" to make its own immigration policy. At one point, he cites the fact that before the Civil War, Southern states could exclude free blacks from their borders to support the idea that states should be able to set their own immigration policies.
We should transport scalia back to pre-Civil War times!
Obama sez: "A patchwork of state laws is not a solution to our broken immigration system - it's part of the problem" THE PROBLEMS IS THAT THE FEDS DO NOTHING TO CONTROL THE BORDER, and sit their butts in Washington. We simply CAN'T ENJOY AN OPEN BORDER ANY MORE.
NoProgress: "Your racist projecting is getting old"
LOL!
The republican white supremacist party is the party of racism, bigotry and division, and only gets worse as the demographics in America change and their BIG tent gets smaller by the day!
Thank you for bringing race into the discussion..Each time the race card is played unjustly is another nail in its coffin..The race card has been played so many times it's like the little boy that cried "wolf" once too many times. You might want to save the card for when you really need it. Like Obama is doing right now. Got a news alert for you.. The tail that has been wagging the dog is about to get docked...big time.
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It's a fact that "illegal immigration from Mexico has plummeted in recent years" since the peak in 2006, yet we have political hacks like justice scalia from the activist right-wing robert's court, acting more like a fox political network propagandist spewing nothing but political rhetoric to the contrary!
The federal government "does not want to enforce the immigration laws as written, and leaves the States' borders unprotected against immigrants whom those laws would exclude," scalia alleged, despite it being ONE BIG LIE, as facts show illegal immigration has slowed and deportations of criminals has soared!
_______________________________
Calm down. Illegal immigration is fueled by available work - they come here looking for work. There's no available work now that the economy is in the tank. That's why illegal immigration has dropped, not because of "enforcement" or Obama's policies.
This does prove, however, that Illegal Immigration can be neutralized if we make the environment so inhospitable that they don't bother coming here. So, this law is an excellent step in the right direction to achieving that end. Now, with aggressive targeting of employers who employ illegals (fine a few of them so heavily they go out of business - watch the work dry up for illegals) Presto!! Wholesale Reverse Immigration!
We won't even have to waste money weeding them out and deporting them.
What? No call from the left about right wing astivist judges making law? We'll see about that sentiment after tomorrow's release of its verdict on ObamaCare.
***********************************************************************************
Both laws had provisions in it that will be (or has been) struck down by the Supreme Court.
Immigration from Mexico plummeted well before Arizona law
The Supreme Court upheld the most controversial portion of Arizona's immigration law Monday, clearing the way for police officers in the state to ask about a person's immigration status during routine stops. Whether this tactic will deter future border crossings will be difficult to measure, however, because illegal immigration from Mexico has plummeted in recent years. There are many factors that have probably contributed to this decline, chief among them the fact that there are more border patrol agents on the ground and fewer jobs for those who do make it to America.
It's a fact that "illegal immigration from Mexico has plummeted in recent years" since the peak in 2006, yet we have political hacks like justice scalia from the activist right-wing robert's court, acting more like a fox political network propagandist spewing nothing but political rhetoric to the contrary!
The federal government "does not want to enforce the immigration laws as written, and leaves the States' borders unprotected against immigrants whom those laws would exclude," scalia alleged, despite it being ONE BIG LIE, as facts show illegal immigration has slowed and deportations of criminals has soared!
Sure bubba -- this robert's court is the most activist right-wing court ever, and scalia would be more at home on the fox political network!
Scalia also repeatedly referenced Obama's policy of prosecutorial discretion, which directs Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to prioritize deporting the illegal immigrants who are frequent border crossers, have committed crimes, or recently entered the country illegally. The Obama administration has deported a record number of illegal immigrants, but its prosecutorial discretion policy still draws the ire of illegal immigration hawks.
Scalia directly referred to Obama's immigration enforcement policy as "lax" at one point.
Arizona's entire immigration law should be upheld, Scalia wrote, because it is "entitled" to make its own immigration policy. At one point, he cites the fact that before the Civil War, Southern states could exclude free blacks from their borders to support the idea that states should be able to set their own immigration policies.
We should transport scalia back to pre-Civil War times!
LOL!
The republican white supremacist party is the party of racism, bigotry and division, and only gets worse as the demographics in America change and their BIG tent gets smaller by the day!