Comments on: Steele Calls Obama Health Plan "Socialism"

Republican Party Chairman Accuses Democrats of Conducting a "Risky Experiment"

[skyk-2009]

Why are you planning on voting Democratic? LOL Look this is about one of our WORST Problems and frankly YOU don't matter. YOU just want something else to whine about or try to scare people with. If nothing else why can't you simple minded ditto heads face it... people are on to your act... Sorry!

[fedup12]

by bonz8420 July 20, 2009 1:18 PM EDT
Or that they depend on public anmbulances for their urgent needs? No way! They have private security and EMS in their fenced off, private neighborhoods.



Thats about the same amount, 1 trillion that Bush spent in a needless war in Iraq,,,atleast Obama is gonna spend it on Americans who need help!!
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Amen to that. Your choice 4000 dead and a trillion in debt and lots of wasted bullets and bombs in a BS war in IRAQ or maybe just maybe a healthcare system that people can use here in the states.

You can see where the Republicans priorities are.

[jojo9357-2009]

Without using profanity, I have a clue. Go ahead and tax it. It's compensation even if you say it isn't. Why are you so mad? This is a conversation.

[jab232]

If Steele is against it, it is probably a pretty good plan. Remember the GOP's history? Remember the Medicare Drug Plan--GOP sponsored, drug and insurance company written, it had a huge donut hole. Drug and insurance costs skyrocketed after one year.

Think back to the last eight years. Who got rich and who got laid off? Do you think it will be any different if the GOP writes the health care plan. They have called a health care defeat an Obama Waterloo. In other words, for the Republicans, it is politics not people. They don't care how many are uninsured, how fast health care costs are skyrocketing for ordinary people, how many are under insured, how many undergo rescission (having paid-up health care denied when you get an expensive illness). All they care about are the rich CEO's and health care companies. Only a public option plan will help eliminate insurance industry abuses and control skyrocketing health care costs. Anything less will just be another Medicare Drug type plan which makes the CEOs and companies even richer.

[petesis]

Is that his argument? Well I guess Capitalism is where only people with money can afford to see a doctor. Oooh yes. Capitalism sounds so much better than Socialism.

[skyk-2009]

Would someone PLEASE tell this LOSER to sit down and shut up! He is IRRELEVANT! His Party isn't into making any deal on this issue, they are out to do EXACTLY what that jerk from South Carolina said, STOP IT! There is NOTHING this loser and his party of misfits wouldn't do to take down Health Care! But in the end THEY do not matter! Nope the ONLY one's who matter are the Democrats and they DO want to make a deal, they DO want to solve this MAJOR Problem!

[jab232]

If Steele is against it, it is probably a pretty good plan. Remember the GOP's history? Remember the Medicare Drug Plan--GOP sponsored, drug and insurance company written, it had a huge donut hole. Drug and insurance costs skyrocketed after one year.

Think back to the last eight years. Who got rich and who got laid off? Do you think it will be any different if the GOP writes the health care plan. They have called a health care defeat an Obama Waterloo. In other words, for the Republicans, it is politics not people. They don't care how many are uninsured, how fast health care costs are skyrocketing for ordinary people, how many are under insured, how many undergo rescission (having paid-up health care denied when you get an expensive illness). All they care about are the rich CEO's and health care companies. Only a public option plan will help eliminate insurance industry abuses and control skyrocketing health care costs. Anything less will just be another Medicare Drug type plan which makes the CEOs and companies even richer.

[endurorob]

stickdog3 July 20, 2009 1:31 PM EDT
Canada, Cuba, Botswana, and a few other countries. What do they have in common? In those countries you can go to any hospital, any doctor you want to, no charge. This is how its suppose to be. Those countries take care of their citizens in that regard. Think about that, why do you have to pay to see a doctor, whose sole mission in life is to heal? And you have all the resources (medicine, hospitals, etc) to do this. Yet everyday in this country people get turned away from hospitals because they don't have insurance, please! People are taking out 2nd mortgages just to pay for operations, thats insanity. Its actually barbaric. Greed, which in this country is hidden by another word you hear a cute little misnomer (capitalism). We should look to our Northern neighbor (Canada) and our southern neighbor (Cuba) and see how its really done, talking about health care.


While you are looking go ahead and stay for a while, especially Cuba, and see how you like it there.

[lovegetpeace]

Remove the U.S. Embargo and I may consider moving to Cuba.

[actornaught]

If universal healthcare was a fraction as bad as the conned yip that it is, why has NO country ever dismantled theirs?

Probably because you can still get private insurance if you want.

Free Choice, it's a wonderful thing.

But the neocons will deprive even those that deserve it, just to make themselves feel better, that they stopped the undeserving from taking advantage of them. WWJD?...

[noloyalisti]

I agree that for too long we have equated capitalism with democracy when if fact, without significant oversight, they are incompatible. Just look at what industries have been able to get away with during our history. Look at this silly health care "debate" when everyone knows the greedy big corporations decide everything. I just hope more people will admit how corrupt our system is.

[mary-miami]

At this moment, there are thousands of people in this country that haven't had access to a doctor in years. These are hard working people, many of them making minimum wages, whose employer does not provide the option of health insurance. Others have no way to pay for a doctor, because their fees are so high, that the "working poor" must choose between eating or paying medical bills. This is immoral. Why must only the wealthy have access to healthcare? Healthcare is a basic human right. If the Europeans do it and still have freedom of speech, press and the right to vote, then why not the United States?
Socialist Democracies, like Europe and Scandinavian countries, are not Communist. Communism is bad because there are no rights of any kind. This is not the same thing. Europeans have freedom of speech, press, religion, and elect their leaders just like we do. Republicans, unfortunately, cling to their cruel belief that only the people with lots of money should be allowed to survive illness. Under President Obama's plan, if you are lucky enough to have insurance and you like your doctor, you can keep him. For the thousands of others who have none, we need health insurance, because we have a right to live also. Even if it means waiting six months for treatment, it's better than never getting treatment.

[skyk-2009]

I agree but we are dealing with people from the South here for the most part AND the Rich. They really aren't important. What we have to do is convince the Conservative Democrats and a few Moderates that this is something we the people want and we got it. NEVER have we been this close before.

[lovegetpeace]

For 41 years, the Pro-Capitalists have stopped Americans from having the Right to Health Care.

According to Experts on CNN.com, if we do not pass Health Care Reform this year, Health Care cost will consume 31% of the national GDP by 2022. According to their Economic Theory, anything over 30% will Suffocate the entire U.S. Economy - 4th Great Depression.

My point is this, if American wish to survive, sooner or later, they will forced with no other choice to pass Universal/Public Health Care just like all nations of the world.

[stickdog3]

good post mary.

[toldyouso29]

by diverinnl July 20, 2009 1:07 PM EDT
Sorry bonz, based on your response, you're the foolish one here. Do you think those that can afford private security depend on the police for protection? Or that they depend on public anmbulances for their urgent needs? No way! They have private security and EMS in their fenced off, private neighborhoods. The point is, there are choices and alternatives out there. Maybe when you graduate high school and get a job, you'll see what's really out there."

Are the drugs you are on even legal? You are full of it. If not..then where was the private EMS when billionaire Jackson died? Or when John Travolta's son died? Or when Anna Nicole died? What happened to their own private group of people to help them? You live in a fantasy world--there are other social programs--try the highway systems (for the most part) schools, traffic lights, mail, mosquito and other city wide pest control measures, Animal control...

Now tell us how the uber rich have their own secret highways, special, private lights, and every single letter they send is sent by DHL or UPS.

Try it somewhere else. WE ALL avail ourselves of systems that are public and paid for by everyone whether we also pay for alternatives or not--and no one in their right mind who did not live HIGH above any farming and urban area would EVER consider a well with septic water as a means to have potable water with acceptible coliform counts. Yes--we know lots of people do it--but what rich person? At best, those with well and septic would need to install an RO system to ensure decent water (or even better an WFI system) and regardless, people in Appalachia use well water, that is not the purview of the rich nor does well and septic guarantee decent water or sewage facilities.