Comments on: Cheney Linked to Concealing CIA Project

New York Times: Former Vice President Ordered CIA to Withhold Information on Counterterrorism Project from Congress

[Rubeem]

iam4honesty wrote a long comment titled "Here's the spin Fox News is trying to put on this story", followed by his/her opinion criticizing FOX News. Now, tell me....... why isn't this article - - or the New Yort Times a "spin" on the story ????? Un-tilt your left leaning mind.

[rednomo]

It Was Oil, All Along
06/27/2008
by Bill Moyers and Michael Winship

Oh, no, they told us, Iraq isn't a war about oil. That's cynical and simplistic, they said. It's about terror and al Qaeda and toppling a dictator and spreading democracy and protecting ourselves from weapons of mass destruction. But one by one, these concocted rationales went up in smoke, fire, and ashes. And now the bottom line turns out to be....the bottom line. It is about oil.

Alan Greenspan said so last fall. The former chairman of the Federal Reserve, safely out of office, confessed in his memoir, "...Everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil." He elaborated in an interview with The Washington Post's Bob Woodward, "If Saddam Hussein had been head of Iraq and there was no oil under those sands, our response to him would not have been as strong as it was in the first gulf war."

Remember, also, that soon after the invasion, Donald Rumsfeld's deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, told the press that war was our only strategic choice. "...We had virtually no economic options with Iraq," he explained, "because the country floats on a sea of oil."
Shades of Daniel Plainview, the monstrous petroleum tycoon in the movie "There Will Be Blood." Half-mad, he exclaims, "There's a whole ocean of oil under our feet!" then adds, "No one can get at it except for me!"

No wonder American troops only guarded the Ministries of Oil and the Interior in Baghdad, even as looters pillaged museums of their priceless antiquities. They were making sure no one could get at the oil except... guess who?

(cont.)

[rednomo]

It Was Oil, All Along
06/27/2008
by Bill Moyers and Michael Winship

Oh, no, they told us, Iraq isn't a war about oil. That's cynical and simplistic, they said. It's about terror and al Qaeda and toppling a dictator and spreading democracy and protecting ourselves from weapons of mass destruction. But one by one, these concocted rationales went up in smoke, fire, and ashes. And now the bottom line turns out to be....the bottom line. It is about oil.

Alan Greenspan said so last fall. The former chairman of the Federal Reserve, safely out of office, confessed in his memoir, "...Everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil." He elaborated in an interview with The Washington Post's Bob Woodward, "If Saddam Hussein had been head of Iraq and there was no oil under those sands, our response to him would not have been as strong as it was in the first gulf war."

Remember, also, that soon after the invasion, Donald Rumsfeld's deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, told the press that war was our only strategic choice. "...We had virtually no economic options with Iraq," he explained, "because the country floats on a sea of oil."
Shades of Daniel Plainview, the monstrous petroleum tycoon in the movie "There Will Be Blood." Half-mad, he exclaims, "There's a whole ocean of oil under our feet!" then adds, "No one can get at it except for me!"

No wonder American troops only guarded the Ministries of Oil and the Interior in Baghdad, even as looters pillaged museums of their priceless antiquities. They were making sure no one could get at the oil except... guess who?

(cont.)

[rednomo]

Here's a recent headline in The New York Times: "Deals with Iraq Are Set to Bring Oil Giants Back." Read on: "Four western companies are in the final stages of negotiations this month on contracts that will return them to Iraq, 36 years after losing their oil concession to nationalization as Saddam Hussein rose to power."

There you have it. After a long exile, Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total, and BP are back in Iraq. And on the wings of no-bid contracts -- that's right, sweetheart deals such as those given Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater. The kind of deals you get only if you have friends in high places. And these war profiteers have friends in very high places.

Let's go back a few years to the 1990's, when private citizen Dick Cheney was running Halliburton, the big energy supplier. That's when he told the oil industry that, "By 2010 we will need on the order of an additional 50 million barrels a day. So where is the oil going to come from? While many regions of the world offer great oil opportunities, the Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Fast forward to Cheney's first heady days in the White House. The oil industry and other energy conglomerates have been handed backdoor keys to the White House, and their CEOs and lobbyists were trooping in and out for meetings with their old pal, now Vice President Cheney. The meetings are secret, conducted under tight security, but as we reported five years ago, among the documents that turned up from some of those meetings were maps of oil fields in Iraq -- and a list of companies who wanted access to them. The conservative group Judicial Watch and the Sierra Club filed suit to try to find out who attended the meetings and what was discussed, but the White House fought all the way to the Supreme Court to keep the press and public from learning the whole truth.
Think about it. These secret meetings took place six months before 9/11, two years before Bush and Cheney invaded Iraq. We still don't know what they were about. What we know is that the oil industry is enjoying swollen profits these days. It would be laughable if it weren't so painful to remember that their erstwhile cheerleader for invading Iraq -- the press mogul Rupert Murdoch -- once said that a successful war there would bring us $20 a barrel of oil. The last time we looked, it was more than $140 a barrel. Where are you, Rupert, when the facts need checking and the predictions are revisited?

[stuart2020]

And who cares WHAT your "associate" says???????

[chonder2]

nj-Stop whining.McCain is on Meet The Press right now.HE IS AN IDIOT!Thats why you guys are in trouble. You follow him and your economic proctologist Phil Gramm. Uncle Phil with both hands on your shoulders for the past 8 years!

[ReallyMeanIt]

by o_the_potus July 11, 2009 8:49 PM PDT
"I don't think you can document one lie that President Obama has told. And please don't start listing the times that he has changed his position."
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barrack entire life has been half truth, outright lies and embelishments.
Until the libs see him for who he really is, they'll never see the light.
There's no doubt that Cheney did not disclosed everything to congress. Can't really blamed him because some of the lib members would leaked the information and put our country at risk, not to mentioned our troops.

[stuart2020]

Hungry...I don't even argue with these extremists neo-con mental midgets anymore. They are all Rushbots as slow or gravy said a page or two back.

Republicans are like an old LP with a scratch and every time you try to play it it just repeats the same thing over and over again. Republicans are stuck in their ideology which is way passe. But because they love their party more than this country, like the LP, they just repeat the same old song and dance over and over and over and over and over again.

[SusanHpa]

Did he do something wrong. Dahhhhh! How many millions will we spend on this and then do nothing about it? Will this make the Democrats a better party by pointing the finger? Do I want to hear about it every night at dinner, well it might be less nausiating then hearing about Clinton's sexcapades. What are they going to do to the soldiers they prosecuted and dishonorabily discharged for basically following orders? Move on and let the powers that be now know they are being watched more closely.

Thank you for the piece today honoring the fallen soldier, they are the stories that need more attention. His is the kind of life we need to be spotlighting for an example to our families and children. And not one more word about Michael Jackson!

[Solarrays247]

"Move on and let the powers that be now know they are being watched more closely."


Alrighty then! I'm sure that will teach everyone a good lesson! We'll also be sure to advise the murderers of Mr. and Mrs. Billings that they better not do it again...'cause we'll be watching! Guess we can empty out our prisons and jails because we can warn the criminals not to do it again....'cause we'll be watching!

So sorry, Susan, that this distasteful subject ruins your dinner! Perhaps if the honorable thing had been done originally, THAT YOUNG FALLEN SOLDIER WOULD STILL BE ALIVE.....INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR BUSH/CHENEY'S DIRTY MONEY!

You will never "get it" will you? But for the Grace of God....I could be you!

[stuart2020]

Mortarman is an arrogant, confused puppy. As he ages his ideals and ideas will too. Eventually they will bloom into something resembling reality on a grander scale rather than his own little view of the world.

He claims to be a political scientist. But he said he only has 8 years of schooling. Well that puts him on par with Jethro Bodine. Maybe he's a brain surgeon too.

Mortarman seeems to me to be someone with altogether too much time on his hands. He needs to stop sucking off the government and get a job!

[njdoctor]

You folks wanting to hang bush and chaney better hope the same thing doesn't happen to holder and obama later on. Things like this has a way of coming home. You libs are trying to carry things too far. Just talked to an associate of mine that has been traveling and he says the tide is turning against the democrats. It always does.

[stuart2020]

And who cares WHAT your "associate" says???????

[Solarrays247]

Are you threatening us, doc? I have news for you...."This" is way bigger and more threatening than any liberal vs conservative; blue vs red; Republican vs Democrat. "This" concerns the survival of our democracy....if there is to be one. "This" should be investigated to the fullest extent, and justice applied to everyone who forgets they were elected to represent WE THE PEOPLE!

I did not see anything having to do with the survival of our country in your rhetoric, just threats against libs and democrats. You also forgot to mention the Independents, and that could be your and your fellow Republicans big mistake once again!

By the way....LOL....just where was your associate traveling? Alabama? Texas? Louisiana? LOL

[gravyboat4000]

"Things like this has a way of coming home"?

Have? Perhaps...And what does that even mean?

"doc"? I seriously doubt that. And as for your,"ASSociate", if he or she is as dumb as you are, I think the Dems will be around for a while. As for the Republican party...Not so much,"doc". lmao

[chonder2]

nj is a plant, you guys know that don't you?

[iam4honesty]

Exactly what sort of 'trip' was your 'associate' on?

[Benton09]

Future song to be sung in Toby Keith twang:

Ahem!!

George W. Bush, he used to be President......
Now he's Leavenworth, Kansas, he's a permanent resident.....
Him and 'Ol Dick Cheney thought they'd pulled one on us good.....
Now they're sharing space in a place with the boys in the hood......

They made 'em up a war in a far off desert land....
To give their buddies in the oil business a government helping hand....
They killed of four thousand plus soldiers to make Halliburton lots of cash....
When it comes down to it...Bush and Cheney are nothing but oilfield trash....

George said God talked to him and said he should be the leader of the land...
But that was probably Jack Daniels talking, pouring out of his right hand...
Now he's spending his days on the wrong side of prison bars..
Him and O'l Dick Cheney better not be dropping any soap bars!

[chonder2]

nj-Stop whining.McCain is on Meet The Press right now.HE IS AN IDIOT!Thats why you guys are in trouble. You follow him and your economic proctologist Phil Gramm. Uncle Phil with both hands on your shoulders for the past 8 years!

[stupa1]

What else do we expect from this egomaniac snake!

[tonybull]

war criminal

[ajjaxtheleast]

There isn't even a doubt that we are now going to be
treated to as much "wagging the dog" as Obama can dig
up,,,to, but sadly not including sending Bush and Cheney
to prison,,,as he can to deflect from all of the stuff that
he already either has one foot stuck in or will have both
feet well planted in over Afghanistan, Iraq and
his dubious economy plans,,,

There will be a lot of "Holder is thinking about investigating",,,
"Holder is laying plans to investigate.",,"Next week Holder
will begin investigating.",,,,all the while, Holder and other parellel "investigations" of the Well-deserving-of "real
investigations" Bush and Cheney will help cut the news of
American troops being shot, bombed and captured and Iraq
returning to Iraqi status quo.

If ever there was a cornucopia of dogs to be wagged
Bush and Cheney have supplied Obama with a two-term
supply and more.

[gravyboat4000]

"Gangsta"

Pure,"OG".

[mrjustice1]

by mrjustice1 July 11, 2009 11:38 PM PDT
AS WE CEDE OR NATURALLY LOSE OUR LIBERTIES

If there is one damned good bet, it is that we will LOSE;
more and more of our freedom of speech and written expression
more and more of our freedom of movement
and probably
more and more of our ability to conduct our private lives, even within our own homes.

We should not be surprised by such resultant constraints, simply because the pendulum of tolerating corruption, lying, stealing, cheating
- particularly destructive and deadly actions and mentality evolving from permitting religious lunacy to continue -
is swinging against all of the forgoing.

In the name of national and/or international security as well as localized or community security...

...EXPECT appropriate, Draconian legal changes in our laws that will profoundly affect all of us.

If some of those who cheated or scammed us would be forcefully dragged out from their homes...
...doing so would result in more justice than the current, rotten-to-the-core system that is set up to protect these criminals, will ever mete out!

[gravyboat4000]

beaumuff's daily routine: "access internet, read talking points from Rush. Go to CBS.com, repeat talking points, again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again...

[nextgenman09]

Remember people, Cheney worshiped at Nixon's Groin. They both believed that the President and the Executive Office were outside the Constitution and that it isn't illegal if the President does its.

It was the beginning of the Republican Psychotic Movement.

[gravyboat4000]

"Which side are YOU one.Are you for the USA or against the USA?"

If you are for secret CIA activities(that are kept from the American people vis lies to Congress)/torture...and secret prisons around the world that hold people for years without any charges than YOU ARE AGAINST THE USA, and what IT stands for.