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New York Times: Former Vice President Ordered CIA to Withhold Information on Counterterrorism Project from Congress

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by chonder2 July 12, 2009 12:40 PM EDT
Words out on that Drone launch today.It's launching any time now from just across the Afgan border. It has the standard recon capabilities plus some high tech upgrades.When it arrives over the target, the Drone called McCain-Cheney2 issues high decibel sound waves in the form of phrases such as..."You are in a mental recession","Regulation is marxism", "You are a nation of whiners".Upon landing back at base the Drone proceeds to LIE about all intel it has gathered.Also it has the capability to twist the arms of and exposing private info of any intel officers trying to get at the correct information.
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by walt1944 July 12, 2009 12:25 PM EDT
I think its safe to say that Bush-Cheney were following in the footsteps of Richard "The Trickster" Nixon by using their office and government agencies to spy on anyone THEY thought was a threat TO THEM, not the country!

In Nixon's time, having a paranoid old fart who liked to dress up as a woman in charge of the FBI helped Nixon a lot in getting info on anyone he didn't like or trust.

8 years ago, you had the same sort of people in power and the same thing happening, only on a lot larger scale and under the pretext of "homeland security".

Let's face it everyone! The government has been and WILL BE collecting info on YOU forever. George Orwell says it best in "1984!": BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!!!!!!!!!

HAIL OBAMA????????
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by cbs_bull July 12, 2009 12:16 PM EDT
This evil man(Cheney) may be able to escape a jail term. But he will go straight to hell for sure.
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by chonder2 July 12, 2009 12:14 PM EDT
And call your Senate/House Reps. Don't let them off the hook.
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by gravyboat4000 July 12, 2009 12:13 PM EDT
"Things like this has a way of coming home"?

Have? Perhaps...And what does that even mean?

"doc"? I seriously doubt that. And as for your,"ASSociate", if he or she is as dumb as you are, I think the Dems will be around for a while. As for the Republican party...Not so much,"doc". lmao
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by chonder2 July 12, 2009 12:08 PM EDT
Ditto SoH- The Palin/Cheney wannabes need to retreat back to their barb wire compounds and wait for Sara to come by for her BBQ fundraiser next year.
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by rednomo July 12, 2009 12:04 PM EDT
Inspectors General Confirm Bush Admin Carried Out Massive Illegal Surveillance, More Than Previously Known

addingtonA congressionally-mandated report by Inspectors General of five separate intelligence agencies confirms that the Bush administration carried out ?unprecedented,? massive surveillance activities beyond the warrantless wirteapping program that had previously been revealed. The Bush administration authorized the program without fully notifying Congress:

Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., told The Associated Press she was shocked to learn of the existence of other classified programs beyond the warrantless wiretapping.

Former Bush Attorney General Alberto Gonzales made a terse reference to other classified programs in an August 2007 letter to Congress. But Harman said that when she had asked Gonzales two years earlier if the government was conducting any other undisclosed intelligence activities, he denied it.

?He looked me in the eye and said ?no,?? she said Friday.

As ThinkProgress previously reported, former Deputy Attorney General James Comey?s testimony before Congress implied that ?other programs exist for domestic spying? outside of the NSA program. Gonzales even stated in 2007 that ?other intelligence activities? existed. The new report found Gonzales? statements to be ?incomplete and confusing? and ?inaccurate,? though not intentionally misleading.

Attorney General John Ashcroft had originally given authorization for the program based on a ?misimpression? of what activities the NSA was actually conducting. The lack of full disclosure led to the showdown in Ashcroft?s hospital room in 2004, which almost caused a mass resignation at DoJ.

According to the report, top Cheney aide David Addington could personally decide who in the administration was ?read into? the classified program. The inspectors general interviewed more than 200 people inside and outside the government. But because the inspectors general ?lacked the authority to compel testimony,? five former Bush administration officials ? Ashcroft, John Yoo, George Tenet, Andrew Card, and Addington ? refused to be questioned.

Most of the intelligence leads generated under what was known as the ?President?s Surveillance Program,? which began shortly after 9/11, did not have any connection to terrorism, the report said. Moreover, the information produced was of ?limited? value to intelligence officials.

White the IGs? report does not yield any details about the secret programs, Radar reported in 2008 that a program called ?Main Core? was engaged in massive data collection of Americans:

According to a senior government official? ?There exists a database of Americans, who, often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived ?enemies of the state? almost instantaneously.? ? One knowledgeable source claims that 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect. In the event of a national emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention.

Glenn Greenwald notes that there likely ?will be no consequences? for any of this ?rampant and blantant? lawlessness because the Obama administration ?opposes all Congressional investigations into Bush-era crimes and, worse, is engaged in extraordinary efforts to block courts from adjudicating the legality of Bush?s surveillance activities by claiming that even long-obsolete and clearly criminal programs are ?state secrets.??
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by didserve July 12, 2009 12:02 PM EDT
Start War Crimes trials on these criminals or America will march to washington and demand justice!
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by the74blaster July 12, 2009 12:01 PM EDT
by rednomo July 12, 2009 8:29 AM PDT
It Was Oil, All Along
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Yeah, unfortunately this is true. The issue is Big Oil apparently controls our government as well as big business.

Does anyone really believe that the people would have supported an invasion of Iraq if they would have been told the justification was to overthrow the government so big oil could pump the oil out and make billions?
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by Solarrays247 July 12, 2009 12:01 PM EDT
"Move on and let the powers that be now know they are being watched more closely."


Alrighty then! I'm sure that will teach everyone a good lesson! We'll also be sure to advise the murderers of Mr. and Mrs. Billings that they better not do it again...'cause we'll be watching! Guess we can empty out our prisons and jails because we can warn the criminals not to do it again....'cause we'll be watching!

So sorry, Susan, that this distasteful subject ruins your dinner! Perhaps if the honorable thing had been done originally, THAT YOUNG FALLEN SOLDIER WOULD STILL BE ALIVE.....INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR BUSH/CHENEY'S DIRTY MONEY!

You will never "get it" will you? But for the Grace of God....I could be you!
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by Illuminated1 July 12, 2009 11:59 AM EDT
I have to agree with Ubrew12 in almost all his points and find the arguments raised bye Mortaman25 to be biased and flag waving shows it to be obvious.
The fact is Bush conducted illegal wiretaps.
Another fact is the VP has no constitutional authority as VP so should not be ordering anyone to keep secrets, and should be excluded from working under presidential protections. His job as listed in the constitution is his duty, nothing else.
I've always suspected the American public has been illegally wiretapped for as long as I can remember. Just setting up the systems to do so would have taken years, so how did they get set up so quickly if it wasn't already occurring? We have been under serveilance already. I really think Bush/Cheney and company are traitors. Traitors indeed.
The simple truth is our lives were much better before BUSH/CHENEY and now we will begin the long struggle of restructuring our country because of them.
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by Yeah-Me July 12, 2009 11:55 AM EDT
by proudmilvet July 11, 2009 7:53 PM PDT
"G.W.Bush (Sgt.Shultz)"
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O,o?

LMAO!!!!!
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by South-of-Heaven July 12, 2009 11:44 AM EDT
by The_World_Is_Watching July 12, 2009 4:24 AM PDT
You cant pass information to a Congress dominated by the enemy. The Democrats were the enemy and allied to al-qaeda,taliban and Iran during the Bush administration..................................


This is what the GOP is full of....
Ignorant inbred Palin supporters.....
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by chonder2 July 12, 2009 12:14 PM EDT
And call your Senate/House Reps. Don't let them off the hook.
by South-of-Heaven July 12, 2009 11:41 AM EDT
I Would love to see Chenney in an orange jumpsuit
shackled like a pig at the Hague....
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by chonder2 July 12, 2009 12:08 PM EDT
Ditto SoH- The Palin/Cheney wannabes need to retreat back to their barb wire compounds and wait for Sara to come by for her BBQ fundraiser next year.
by dennisall77 July 12, 2009 11:40 AM EDT
BS! You are such an idiot... so ANTI-GOVT it is pathetic. How does this benefit you, to be so cynical? Is thsi the greatest country in history IN SPITE of our govt? LOL.... Govt is like any other institution: good and bad. The Catholic Church has its pedophiles but it also does a lot of good. It is typical of the right the bash govt while they get filthy rich doing it
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by chonder2 July 12, 2009 11:40 AM EDT
mrjustice1- The Cheney administration I hope, is finally going to be reveiled for what it has done.You can drop the shakespere.
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by didserve July 12, 2009 11:39 AM EDT
Where is the Criminal Justice System?

Does it only apply to the American People?

When will America Stand up for War Crime and Criminal Trials of these criminals?
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by Solarrays247 July 12, 2009 11:39 AM EDT
Are you threatening us, doc? I have news for you...."This" is way bigger and more threatening than any liberal vs conservative; blue vs red; Republican vs Democrat. "This" concerns the survival of our democracy....if there is to be one. "This" should be investigated to the fullest extent, and justice applied to everyone who forgets they were elected to represent WE THE PEOPLE!

I did not see anything having to do with the survival of our country in your rhetoric, just threats against libs and democrats. You also forgot to mention the Independents, and that could be your and your fellow Republicans big mistake once again!

By the way....LOL....just where was your associate traveling? Alabama? Texas? Louisiana? LOL
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by South-of-Heaven July 12, 2009 11:38 AM EDT
Sen. John McCain thinks we haven't heard the last about allegations that former Vice President Dick Cheney ordered secrecy for a CIA surveillance operation after the September 11, 2001, terror attacks.

"If I know Washington, this is the beginning of a pretty involved and detailed story," McCain said Sunday on the NBC program "Meet the Press." ......

MCcain in the same story admitted he knew little or nothing of the
Secret Programs......
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by Rubeem July 12, 2009 11:35 AM EDT
at least one sane blogger
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