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- despido...Your Channel 3 link doesn't mention the 215 parks being closed, nor the layoffs. Is that because these are,"proposals", and have not been finalized?
On one hand, you criticize the stimulus, on the other...you want more stimulus for California?
Isn't the money controled by the State, once it's recieved? - Reply to this comment
- Joe, calling ANYONE a fool = pot/kettle conversation...
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- Wow.
Do you dream this stuff up at night as you plan for the end of days?
Obama's not listening to some Dems, and some Reps, as THEY discuss a second stimulus. He NEVER proposesd one.
But it makes for a great story.
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- the74blaster, What is really comical is your Liberal Democrats that spend a Trillion dollars wasted, stimulating nothing but more un-employment and you go along with it like complete fools......now THAT's a comedy of fools.
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- Its almost comical to watch the GOP point fingers at the democrats saying how their economic stimulus is not going to work. The truth is we gave Bush and his GOP supporters 8 years and the yrewarded us with th worst economic slowdown since the great depression.
My advise to the GOP is to go crawl under a rock and shut up. its obvious that you have no clue how the economy works and your only interest is to line the pockets of your rich base.
My advice to the democrats is you better com up with a way to stimulate the economy without breaking the treasury.
I believe the best way to bring the jobs back is to start using taxation to govern behavior of business so there is a huge incentive to stay here. Reagen started the whole thing when he busted the air traffic controllers union an its been anti labor since.
Consider implementation of a corpoerate income tax that is based on their domestic sales of goods and services. It needs to be fair but also enough to make the incentives given by dedutions attractive.
For example a perfect deduction would credit the company 100% of its tax bill if it employs 100 % American citizens. In effect it would allow te company to have tax free status provided its employig 100 5 American citizens.
Anoher example is if a company is building a plant or upgrading facilities that increase employment of Americans, allow those costs to b direct write off against their tax burden.
Of course this would have to be paid for by additional taxes, so put a tarrif on imported goods.
We are in a position of power since ur economy is the largest in the world. If a companty doe not want to lay by these rules then they are making a business decision to not be competitiv in our economy.
That is how you create jobs. - Reply to this comment
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- the74blaster, What is really comical is your Liberal Democrats that spend a Trillion dollars wasted, stimulating nothing but more un-employment and you go along with it like complete fools......now THAT's a comedy of fools.
- the74blaster-- has part of it right.
We have to protect the re-development of our nation by raising tarrifs and trade amongst sovereign nation-states on long-term treaty agreements for the things we need to rebuild.
That means an end to British-style 'free trade' and 'globalization'.
That also means a return to the Hamiltonian-style CREDIT SYSTEM that says: "Sovereign Nation-States can 'utter' its own currency and credit through the Congress...not Wall Street/City of London private bankers".
- Since inauguration, the stock markets in China have grown 71%, world markets have averaged a modest 7 or 8%, the US market has fallen about 5%. Stock markets are a leading economic indicator. Unemployment is a lagging one. It appears that our economy will continue to fall while the rest of the world is recovering. We can continue to blame Bush but its hard to understand why the rest of the world seems to be rovering and we are not. Our country now only has 150 companies in the fortune 500, the fewest we have ever had. Our big comanies have been squeezed off the list as othe nations (who refused to spend stimulus) recover. we are near the point that our largest national product will be government. But there is some good news, our government is growing at a 40% rate or more. Unfortunately, it doesnt produce product and we cant tax its profits. Further, we cant sell it to anyone else because they see itfailures while we refuse to fix them (well, maybe Gordon Brown of England would buy some but he is broke too). As I said, we can blame Bush, but that doesnt fix anything. We can praise Obama but he isnt fixing anything either. Lets look at what the rest of the world is doing and use some of that. Or is HOPE all we need?
- blaster74, at least you have the fortitude to blast the Dems for their failures as well as your perceived failures of the Republican party.
Kudos for that.
However, having said that, while your stimulus ideas might work in the short run, I suspect you will find that they won't work in a world wide economy. I'm not knocking you, just want to make you aware of the realities of what will happen if you give tax breaks to companies for hiring only Americans or place tarrifs on imported goods.
Other countries bring you before the World Trade Organization for subsidizing, and retaliate by putting tarrifs on your goods.
I'm sure the first is a bad idea - the second may be ok if we want to go to a protectionist economy, but that would definitly fly in the face of Obama's policies.
- Joe, the so called conservative Repugs will never give the president any credit if the job ratings were very low and we had a trillion dollar surplus. The real reason they won't, is because there happens to be a black democratic president in office. The whole eight years Bush was in office, no matter how many mistakes he made, none of you complained about him. Why, because a white republican man can't do no wrong in the eyes of the Republicans. They mostly get away with murder. For example, Gov. Sanford, from SC. If he was a black democratic governor, he would have been forced to resign, but no, not him. All he got was a slap on the hand, and he was allowed to keep his job. When Clinton was accused of doing what Sanford did, Sanford wanted him impeached. What's good for the Demacrats should be good for the Republicans as well. Now concerning unemployment, it mostly comes from so many out sourced jobs. Look at the label on everything you buy and you'll find most everything is 'made in China' a communist country. If you care so much about our job lost why do you continue to purchase those junk made items? Why not buy 'made in America' items? It could possibly save a few jobs. I know people who work at Dupont, in VA, that was theaten to lose their jobs by the end of July, because the auto industry was having a problem, but since the anouncement that GM was begining to come out of bankruptcy, the Dupont workers has started up their machines again and jobs are being saved. The news don't tell you all the good things that's happening. You need to research what going in your state government, before you start criticizing the president. For me, I try my best not to purchases shoes that's made in communist countries, or anything else for that matter. We as Americans at one time didn't mind boycotting companies that made their prodouts in communist countries, or any country other than ours at one time. What's happened to us?
- ForTheRightNAmeri,
I strongly object to your implication that we who disagree with Obama do so out of racial predjudice. Your opinion in itself is a form of reverse racism. Most of us who disagree with Obama also disagreed with Carter and Clinton. We gave Clinton a GOP congress and together they set the country back on track. But for now, stop trying to hide Obama behind the color of his skin. His policies are more pink than any white man has ever been.
As for the GOP attack on Clinton, it wasnt because he "had sexual relations with that woman". It was because he 1. defiled the Oval office with his antics, and 2. lied under oath to cover them up. Neither of which has been done by any other president, except maybe when Nixon lied about his role in watergate. John Edwards had the decency to come clean about it and the GOP hasnt said much about him. In fact, we are harder on Sanford than we were on Edwards.
Back to Obama, he is innexperienced and it shows. He is stubborn about his policies even in light of their failures. We criticized Bush for that same stubborness (remember, he had only a 20% aproval rate when he left office). So take your racial prdejudices home where they belong. Let the real americans work together to teach this kid we have for president how to run a country.
- hungry1968-16
http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?s=10497825
Perhaps you should actually 'search' before crying. - Reply to this comment
- A hopefull sign out of the failed Obama White House.
It's nice to see that he's willing to reject another Keynesian-style 'stimulas' which do nothing but put our nation more into debt to private-central banksters.
Now if we can get him to fire Larry Summers for misleading the President and hire Lyndon Larouche to guide him on returning the economy to a Hamiltonian-style 'CREDIT SYSTEM' for re-industrializing American and a new Renaissance for the world,
I say we have hope.
Let's keep our fingers crossed folks.
I think President Obama is starting to listen to us. - Reply to this comment
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- Wow.
Do you dream this stuff up at night as you plan for the end of days?
Obama's not listening to some Dems, and some Reps, as THEY discuss a second stimulus. He NEVER proposesd one.
But it makes for a great story.
hehehe
- by gravyboat4000 July 11, 2009 7:43 AM PDT . . .
Wow.
Do you dream this stuff up at night as you plan for the end of days?
Obama's not listening to some Dems, and some Reps, as THEY discuss a second stimulus. He NEVER proposesd one.
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WoW yourself Gravy....
Obama offered his first stimulus in response to Hillary's campaign rhetoric proposing a $75 Billion dollar stimulus program. Obama doubled it by proposing $150 Billion. Bush signed such a stimulus package and it was distributed in May, 2008. It had no effect what-so-ever other than a small blip in Wal-Mart sales for the month. Obama then touted a SECOND stimulus late in 2008 that budgeted only $86 Billion in 'stimulus' funds the first year - just over 1/2 of the ineffective FIRST stimulus. That is why it has no effect. Jobs will continue to be lost - far and above what Obama PROMISED his stimulus would create. 'Give it time' is an excuse for failure - as is his whining that he inherited a train wreck... partially created by his very own depressing statements about America 'never' recovering and that the economy may become 'catastrophic'. The economy is not a 'thing' but the cummulative mindset of some 300 million people. Obama has depressed that mindset with his massive debt, burdening taxes and constant whinning; you're seeing the result.
- He surrounds himself with incompetents like Summers and Geithner and doesn't have the good sense to get rid of Bernanke at the first opportunity he gets--- and he wants us to give him TWO YEARS to see if it has a positive effect?! That's ridiculous!
And, when the time is up, and it hasn't, he'll just turn around and demand two MORE years! And, this, after setting himself up for failure
by continuing AND expanding Bush's ill-conceived 'giveaway' to the Federal Reserve (private banking system) and Wall Street!
So, we---the public---can choose between Obama's bad plan and the Republican's no plan! I think we need to come up with our own plan!
And start by continuing to replace incumbents. I don't think Mr. Obama
need worry about a second term!
- Wow.
- Easy! The only other choice would be to vote for you idiots, and America has learned that lesson well.
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- Funny how a google search can't find ANY proof of the BS that you just slathered all over the board.
I'm assuming that you have a link to prove it?
And no "hannityliedagain.com" doesn't count as an actual link. - Reply to this comment
- At a news conference Friday, Republican lawmakers criticized the White House for spending so much, while simultaneously saying the administration wasn't spending it fast enough."
by hungry1968-16 July 11, 2009 6:41 AM PDT
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What the Republicans are saying makes perfect sense.... Here's why.
A 2 acre city park in Palm Springs, CA will be Riverside County's first 'stimulus' funded project. It was chosen because it was 'shovel ready' but unfunded. It is costing over $1 million per acre, will create only a few, very temporary jobs and due to Federal red tape, construction will not begin until December.
Meanwhile, CA is facing bankruptcy and is closing 215 State Parks and laying off thousands, and Obama refuses to help, saying it would set a 'precedent'. Heaven forbid the Federal Government help Americans... Perhaps CA should declare itself an Islamic State, Barack might then deliver the funds personally. - Reply to this comment
- "Republicans have seized on this opportunity to criticize the president, but they have struggled to find their collective voice. At a news conference Friday, Republican lawmakers criticized the White House for spending so much, while simultaneously saying the administration wasn't spending it fast enough."
Bwaaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa!!!
How could ANYONE ever vote for these idiots again?!?!? - Reply to this comment
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- At a news conference Friday, Republican lawmakers criticized the White House for spending so much, while simultaneously saying the administration wasn't spending it fast enough."
by hungry1968-16 July 11, 2009 6:41 AM PDT
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What the Republicans are saying makes perfect sense.... Here's why.
A 2 acre city park in Palm Springs, CA will be Riverside County's first 'stimulus' funded project. It was chosen because it was 'shovel ready' but unfunded. It is costing over $1 million per acre, will create only a few, very temporary jobs and due to Federal red tape, construction will not begin until December.
Meanwhile, CA is facing bankruptcy and is closing 215 State Parks and laying off thousands, and Obama refuses to help, saying it would set a 'precedent'. Heaven forbid the Federal Government help Americans... Perhaps CA should declare itself an Islamic State, Barack might then deliver the funds personally.
- Funny how a google search can't find ANY proof of the BS that you just slathered all over the board.
I'm assuming that you have a link to prove it?
And no "hannityliedagain.com" doesn't count as an actual link.
- Easy! The only other choice would be to vote for you idiots, and America has learned that lesson well.
- hungry1968-16
http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?s=10497825
Perhaps you should actually 'search' before crying.
- despido...Your Channel 3 link doesn't mention the 215 parks being closed, nor the layoffs. Is that because these are,"proposals", and have not been finalized?
On one hand, you criticize the stimulus, on the other...you want more stimulus for California?
Isn't the money controled by the State, once it's recieved?
- Gravy....
Search Google for "Californis closing state parks"...
You'll get 26,500,000 results. Does that help?
- "Funny how a google search can't find ANY proof of the BS that you just slathered all over the board. - hungry1968-16 July 11, 2009 7:07 AM PDT
First you have to know how to do a search hungry.
- "Funny how a google search can't find ANY proof of the BS that you just slathered all over the board. - hungry1968-16 July 11, 2009 7:07 AM PDT
First you have to know how to do a search hungry.
And, Gravy - some people can actually put two facts together from different sources when formulating an opinion. That's why you couldn't find the 215 parks in the quoted article.
Try living with facts guys, we KNOW it is tough to do this when you are a Barry supporter. But try. It'll make life more challenging for the Conservatives on this post, and the world a better place for it.
- "Funny how a google search can't find ANY proof of the BS that you just slathered all over the board. - hungry1968-16 July 11, 2009 7:07 AM PDT
First you have to know how to do a search hungry.
And, Gravy - some people can actually put two facts together from different sources when formulating an opinion. That's why you couldn't find the 215 parks in the quoted article.
Try living with facts guys, we KNOW it is tough to do this when you are a Barry supporter. But try. It'll make life more challenging for the Conservatives on this post, and the world a better place for it.
"Hungry....is your google broke? - IThoughtItWasFunnyNaw
OUCH! HAAA HAAAA ! Don't go there, Naw. : )
- At a news conference Friday, Republican lawmakers criticized the White House for spending so much, while simultaneously saying the administration wasn't spending it fast enough."
- Obama Dismisses Idea of Second Stimulus...
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America dismisses idea of a second term. - Reply to this comment
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- Thank goodness Barry got his head out in time to think of this !
WE can't afford another "stimulus". Inflation is already knocking at the door.
As for his stimulus plan taking two years to work, that's amazing ! It directly coincides with the amount of time it would have taken had he voted Present.
- How is inflation knocking on the door? The danger is obviously deflation, and attendant unemployment.
- ubrew12, if you knew what you were talking about you might be dangerous.
Inflation is going to happen as money loses its value because we spend more than we have to spend becomes noticed by the other world economies.
Barry keeps on telling us he's saving all this money, so he can now spend it, when in fact he's not saving 5% of what he is spending.
Deflation happens when folks hold off buying in order to reap better prices.
Now given our $3000 spending for man woman and child in the US in Barry's stimulus packages, Health care and the like - which would you believe is going to win out ? Inflation or deflation.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
You are an idiot.
- Thank goodness Barry got his head out in time to think of this !
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