Comments on: Senators Tackle $1T Health Care Challenge

Democrats Expected To Scale Back Plans As Health, Finance Committees Wrestle With Overhaul Cost Estimates

[fedup12]

That is funny that you say that. With Obama it is health care.

The last 8 years (and as with most hypocritical republican regimes)it is huge military buildups, BS wars and the subsidy of other worthless governments and the need to be the worlds police)

I say 6 of one half a dozen of the other.

[venkata4--2008]

"'The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' - Ronald Reagan"

Interesting, why big corporations and banks went to government with a huge begging bowl then? AIG got 150 billions of the bail out right? If government is not there to help, they could have gone where ?

[ubrew12]

We went 'free market' on health care 30 years ago. This catastrophe is the result. It charges twice as much as any other country pays, and delivers nothing to 20-30% of the population. Make no mistake about it: we are IN this mess because of the free health insurance market. And one of out every three healthcare dollars we are charged goes into administrative costs, as insurance agents try to figure out how to deny us coverage for insurance we thought we'd been paying for.

[venkata4--2008]

This plan costs $ 1 trillion over next 10 years. Unjust, totally unwarranted Iraq war is cost us more than that per year. And that war funded totally by borrowing. Thanks to Bush administration and also his tax cuts of $135 billions to richest.

Now for funding for this health insurance, roll back tax cuts to richest and also introduce national sales tax of 2% which everybody has to pay. I know it is a very bitter pill to swallow but I am against republican way of barrow and spend.

Republican president Bush vetoed SCHIP 2 times & singed Iraq war spending bill in a swish. And guess who benefited from the war? Big energy companies, defense suppliers.

[sjc_1]

"..ruse to refinance Medicare/Medicaid"

After years of optional National Health Insurance, you may have millions of people in the program under the age of 50 paying premiums and not filing claims. If the profits from all of that can pay for some Medicare, that is a good thing. It means lower taxes and lower costs.

[ubrew12]

All_pols_need_2_go said: "How is it measured as well? Better because you pay nothing for it or actually better health care?"

9 million children in America have no health insurance. While that doesn't mean much to us, to the rest of the world is a SCANDAL of monumental proportions. Any country that would be comfortable placing its children at risk of death just to kiss some corporate **s is no ones idea of a 'beacon of freedom'. Trust me, the rest of the world looks at our system of health insurance and says 'thank God, we didnt go there'.

[ubrew12]

It isn't just the GOP. The reason the Dems aren't promoting single payer is because they are just as much in the pocket of the insurance executives as the GOP. So, while they try to figure out a way to insure the millions who are left behind in our 'for profit' health system, the two words you'll never hear them utter is 'single payer', which is Canada's system, and the system used in Europe, and just about everywhere ELSE in the world, and which saves billions of dollars a year in administrative costs (i.e. CEO salaries).

[ubrew12]

This could be so easy:
Go to single payer and save $400 billion in administrative costs immediately, so the switch MORE than pays for itself.

Canada has single payer: they get BETTER healthcare than we do (according to the World Health Organization) and pay HALF what we do to get it.

That's why just about EVERY trading partner we have has gone to single payer. While we're still trying to figure out how to make a private insurance scheme reasonably priced, and it overcharges for healthcare to the tune of trillions of dollars, and leaves 50 million Americans uninsured.

The rightwingers on this board suggesting that this is the best of all possible systems should be ashamed of themselves. This system KILLS people, and they are helping.

[woeisme1]

The rightwingers on this board suggesting that this is the best of all possible systems should be ashamed of themselves. This system KILLS people, and they are helping.
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And the neo-con party continues to crumble....LMAO!!

[gravyboat3000]

by dg441-2009 June 17, 2009 8:20 AM PDT
Quit giving free health care services to prisoners. They get three meals a day, a place to live and free health care thanks to us hard working taxpayers.
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Yes, we've already tortured prisoners, why not refuse basic healthcare to ALL inmates?

Then, they'll spread all kinds of diseases, that Americans will be exposed to. Wait, we could just throw 'em in a big pit! NO! Death penalty for parking tickets!

Kill 'em all, let the great spirit in the sky sort 'em out...

[dg441-2009]

Quit giving free health care services to prisoners. They get three meals a day, a place to live and free health care thanks to us hard working taxpayers.

[gravyboat3000]

Insurance company lobbyists, and Politicians from both sides who get ,"kickbacks", from Insurancee companies will kill ANY meaningful Healthcare legislation.

[All_pols_need_2_go]

Please list off all these countries that have better healthcare than the US. I imagine there are maybe a few but I have seen numbers that say we are 37th in the world. Sorry but I find that hard to believe looking at other countries around the world that are still 3rd world. How is it measured as well? Better because you pay nothing for it or actually better health care?

[All_pols_need_2_go]

Please anyone from either side of the aisle tell me why I should expect anything these politicians that have run EVERYTHING else they ever touched into the ground to actually come through with health care? No one with a lick of sense and the ability to clearly see what and who has caused our problems would allow those same people the opportunity to screw up health care as well. I don't want any government to run health care but I would sure as hell never want the fools that have us in the state we are in now to be making any decisions. The sooner they are ALL gone from both sides the better. Unless you consider 30-40 years of being in DC with nothing but 15 trillion in debt and climbing to be a successful career?

[bobbyduck1]

The only reason that it looks unaffordable is because every model put forth thus far includes the greedy insurers, who in the end are just overhead and take from the budget.

The only way it will ever work is to simply cut them out of the loop and let them dry up and blow away. Every other civilized nation on the planet has taken that step and have WAY superior health care as a result. (I know, I'm an American living in Canada since 2000).

The only real question is whether the GOP can keep their insurance buddies filthy rich or whether the people actually matter.

[All_pols_need_2_go]

Please list off all these countries that have better healthcare than the US. I imagine there are maybe a few but I have seen numbers that say we are 37th in the world. Sorry but I find that hard to believe looking at other countries around the world that are still 3rd world. How is it measured as well? Better because you pay nothing for it or actually better health care?

[ubrew12]

It isn't just the GOP. The reason the Dems aren't promoting single payer is because they are just as much in the pocket of the insurance executives as the GOP. So, while they try to figure out a way to insure the millions who are left behind in our 'for profit' health system, the two words you'll never hear them utter is 'single payer', which is Canada's system, and the system used in Europe, and just about everywhere ELSE in the world, and which saves billions of dollars a year in administrative costs (i.e. CEO salaries).

[ubrew12]

All_pols_need_2_go said: "How is it measured as well? Better because you pay nothing for it or actually better health care?"

9 million children in America have no health insurance. While that doesn't mean much to us, to the rest of the world is a SCANDAL of monumental proportions. Any country that would be comfortable placing its children at risk of death just to kiss some corporate **s is no ones idea of a 'beacon of freedom'. Trust me, the rest of the world looks at our system of health insurance and says 'thank God, we didnt go there'.

[silver1237]

bobby,
half of my family is Canadian, and with the exception of the over taxing and thier health care model, they are Proud to be Canadiens.
But don't try to tell anybody that the Medical Care is even close to acceptable.

[NY-Joe-10]

One Trillion dollars to insure 16 million people ? A TRILLION !!!!!

Please check this out, for perspective

http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html

[woeisme1]

No is forcing any of you no idea repukelicons to take the plan. So **** already. Gallows politics!

Hey by the way, how's Ensign doing with his whoring around? Did'nt he want to impeach Clinto for the same thing? Did'nt he want Craig to resign for his republicon antics in the male restrooms all over Washington trying to pick up young boys??? How's that working for you guys?

[nolies74621]

Senate Republicans Cry Real Tears Over the Fate of Insurance Companies; Little To Spare for the Uninsured

By Susie Madrak Tuesday Jun 16, 2009


Come on get real the DEMONcrats are'nt happy about the cost neither. Read the story and then comment, I think that is how it works instead of bashing repus right off the bat because you can' quit blaming GB, George is in Texsas laughung at you.

[nolies74621]

The cost is astronomical. Both Dem and Repub Senators do not want their taxes hiked to fund this anymore than the rest of us. And there will be a tax hike in the form of a Value Added Tax on everything we buy. Barrys plan is a loser.

[woeisme1]

Who is Barry???????????? Don't these dumb republicans know that his name is Obama????

[quickly101]

The simple fact is this. At this time our government cannot afford this measure. If we were to pull out of Iraq and quit trying to be the policeman of the world we might. We simply need to get our economic house in order before tackling a program so large in scope.

[dmwj2]

I am all for universal health care, but I have to agree... our resources are stretched too thin right now. We need to get out of the Middle East, stop sending aid to other countries, and tighten our belts at home (cut pay by 10% from the president down to the janitors), cut out all but absolutely necessary spending (no more publicity junkets, pork projects, or bailouts!)... I could go on forever... Once we are back on-track, we can then look at universal health care... what say you?

[J_Dalley]

Let health care be free market! We need a strong economy not a strong government.
http://planotexaspolitics.wordpress.com/

[ubrew12]

We went 'free market' on health care 30 years ago. This catastrophe is the result. It charges twice as much as any other country pays, and delivers nothing to 20-30% of the population. Make no mistake about it: we are IN this mess because of the free health insurance market. And one of out every three healthcare dollars we are charged goes into administrative costs, as insurance agents try to figure out how to deny us coverage for insurance we thought we'd been paying for.

[douglas_dunn]

Funny how the Republicans as their last act of being in power (well except for pardoning criminal friends) was to shove 3/4 of a trillion dollars into the pockets of Corporate America (national banks) without any questions asked, but when it comes to spending the same amount over a period of ten years to save the health and happiness of our people, WHAT ELECTED OFFICIAL ARE SUPPOSED TO CARE ABOUT, they become fiscal conservatives.

THEY MIGHT AS WELL SHOUT FROM THE CAPITOL DOME "WE THE PEOPLE" ARE PROLETARIAN SLAVES WHO GET WHAT THEY DESERVE. I GOT MINE, TO HELL WITH THE REST OF YOU."