Comments on: Obama To Seek $634 Billion For Health Care

Administration Official Says Budget Blueprint Will Call Down Payment To Overhaul System

[hunterdon6]

tax - tax - tax - spend - spend - spend.............thats the Democrats way of life. They think of themselves as Robinhood....take from the people who work for a living and give to the poor who are too lazy to work.

[endurorob]

The only fair tax solution that I see is to tax a commodity such as gas, but eliminate sales tax on food. Everyone uses gas, even the poor, and there are no loopholes for the rich. Regulate fuel prices for transport carriers, however charge them a road usage tax based on mileage for infrastructure funding.
Posted by rudedogrulz at 5:23 AM : Feb 26, 2009

I would go along with the sales tax on everything but food. I also would not tax esential services like health care. I would not include snack foods and soft drinks in the food exemption. They are more of a luxery or convenience item and taxing them would encourage those of lesser means to eat properly.

[endurorob]

Better idea, stop funding military bases and misadventures around the world, reserve our forces solely for defense of our territory, and not as a mercenary force for multinationals, stop foreign aid to countries that don't need it (Israel, for example, has received $124,000 for each of its citizens over the past 30 years from the US), close the loopholes that allowed 66% of the Fortune 500 to pay no taxes last year, close the offshore tax haven loopholes, the Enron loopholes and other Wall St. shams, disqualify any contractor whose books are not 100% legit, and then there will be no need to increase.
Posted by brianbwb-2009 at 4:55 AM : Feb 26, 2009

Some of this statement I would agree with but your understanding of the uses of the military is very limited.

[brianbwb-2009]

"That is insanity. It causes achievers to either find ways to get around the government, or to just close up shop and say forget about it. And guess who it hurts in the end? The rich? Of course not. it hurts those that lose the jobs or never got the jobs they could have."

Isn't that the core tenet of capitalism? If you cannot afford it, you don't get it? You complain about not being able to afford the luxury of making more money, this is funny the poeople we are discussing cannot afford to be treated for their health.

"That is the stupidity of socialism, of the progressive tax system!" Posted by mortar29

It is actually the core of the unregulated, capitalist system you love so much, you have it if you can afford it, if not tough luck.

But it seems you only hold that principle to the throats of the less fortunate, but consider yourself not to be beholden to your principle.

[endurorob]

Ask deficit-entrenched Texas how that is working out, they had no income tax, and now have trouble funding infrastructure services.

Posted by brianbwb-2009 at 4:55 AM : Feb 26, 2009

They could do like the fed and just borrow away the future to fund the current welfare system.

[endurorob]

The big problem I see coming is that to pay for all these programs the taxes will eventually, within a couple of years, come to the point that a person making $70k a year will be paying so much in taxes that their take home pay will be equivilant to a person making $45k a year. So why do the work and make the effort ti takes to make $70k when you can get a less stressful job paying $45k and take home the same amount of $.

[brianbwb-2009]

"The perfect solution!" Posted by mortar29

Ask deficit-entrenched Texas how that is working out, they had no income tax, and now have trouble funding infrastructure services.

Problem is the poor would have to pay a much greater share of their income to taxes, and as the sellers raise their prices, the tax rates will go up, spiralling into oblivion.

Better idea, stop funding military bases and misadventures around the world, reserve our forces solely for defense of our territory, and not as a mercenary force for multinationals, stop foreign aid to countries that don't need it (Israel, for example, has received $124,000 for each of its citizens over the past 30 years from the US), close the loopholes that allowed 66% of the Fortune 500 to pay no taxes last year, close the offshore tax haven loopholes, the Enron loopholes and other Wall St. shams, disqualify any contractor whose books are not 100% legit, and then there will be no need to increase.

[endurorob]

Bingo i.e the welfare system in this country is growing at an exponential rate. The tax base is shrinking ob both top and bottom ends and once again middle class America gets stuck with the tab..the few that hold jobs of course
Posted by rudedogrulz at 4:47 AM : Feb 26, 2009


And under Peleidama the welfare system will only continue to grow.

[endurorob]

Again, you availed yourself of taxpayer funded roads, rails, even schools, and now don't want to pay your fair share. You got more than the average person out of it, so you should put more than the average person back into it, simple as that.
Posted by brianbwb-2009 at 4:32 AM : Feb 26, 2009

The problem isn't the people that pay their fair share as I believe morter does, but those that make little to no contribution and don't pay their fair share or any taxes and are the first to take advantage of the efforts of the tax payers.

[brianbwb-2009]

"... And to say somehow that thru the fruits of our own labor that we didnt earn it or that someone else deserves it is the height of immorality. It is theft." Posted by mortar29

Again, you availed yourself of taxpayer funded roads, rails, even schools, and now don't want to pay your fair share. You got more than the average person out of it, so you should put more than the average person back into it, simple as that.