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Urging Speed To Heal "Sick" Economy, President-Elect Proposes $500 Tax Cuts For Most Workers, $100B For Businesses

[jschmidt27]

The point of CRA was to force banks to give loans to red lined districts if they were going to be allowed to expand. This would be risky loans and the first to go into default in hard times.These loans were pushed by neighborhood activists. That was a Democratic solution during the Carter years. In the 90''s those mortgages were securitized, bundled with good loans and sold. Clinton and His Treasury Secy embraced the repeal of Glass Stegal. Franks in 2005 stopped legislation proposed by the Bush Administration to regulate Fannie while taking campaign contributions from Fannie. For the last 2 years, Franks and Dodd, sweetheart mortgage from CountryWide, watched and did nothing about the subprime crisis. I think it is safe to say that the Democrats can share a major part of the blame in the subprime mess. Pelosi was wrong, it was not all the Republicans fault.

[misha128-2009]

Posted by TexHillGirl at 10:11 PM : Jan 05, 2009

You''ve been stuck on that lie for months -- even the Republicans aren''t trying to sell that one anymore.

[random_radar]

The government has bled us to the verge of death, and now they want to give us a transfusion to keep us alive.

The government is a bunch of vampires and we are cattle they keep to feed off of.

[flsunjnky]

Above it all, we got here with your man at the helm. But, what the heck, lets just pass the buck! Yea right!

[flsunjnky]

Redirection, misconception, propaganda. Republicans are good at it.

[amrt5016]

And remember, in spite of these eloquent speeches, NO WMD WERE EVER FOUND ON CLINTON''''S WATCH - EVER!!!!
Posted by txgrouch2008 at 09:18 PM : Jan 05, 2009

None of our servicemen died in Iraq either. Nor a trillion dollar war bill.

[flsunjnky]

December 16, 1998
Web posted at: 8:51 p.m. EST (0151 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN)

Clinton also stated that, while other countries also had weapons of mass destruction, Hussein is in a different category because he has used such weapons against his own people and against his neighbors.

You are talking about a total different conflict that what Bush entered us into!

[amrt5016]

Bush WAS THE STUPID CHIMP who got fooled by SLICK WILLY.
Posted by txgrouch2008 at 09:15 PM : Jan 05, 2009

Puhleeze. Bush misoverestimated himself. I don''t think he''s had any enterprise under his command that did not come out in worse shape after he was through. Iraq and Afghanistan, Katrina, the financial meltdown just happened to be the latest installments of this sordid story.

[flsunjnky]

Well, if "Bush WAS THE STUPID CHIMP", and I agree, then lets all get out the chimp hats, and celebrate!

[flsunjnky]

Well, TexHillGirl, is that national and international debt in better balance now?

[amrt5016]

%u201DThe international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again. "

Speech from the Oval Office by President William Clinton, explaining his attack on Iraq
reported by The Associated Press
Wednesday, December 16, 1998
Posted by txgrouch2008 at 09:00 PM : Jan 05, 2009

If I din''t know contemporary history, I might have concluded Clinton started Iraq war and taken down Saddam. That''s how relevant and useful quotes are.

[tonyatq]

A democrat that want to cut taxes. HUM

[amrt5016]

step one: eliminate the teachers unions - fire middle level administrators who do NOTHING - make higher education and private school tuition tax deductible and/or government subsidized...
Posted by pelosilover at 08:51 PM : Jan 05, 2009

Well, we had teachers'' unions even back when we were producing the most number of college graduates. The most in the world. Not anymore. Our high school students are not even top 20 internationally.

[flsunjnky]

Well, Bill Clinton is being trashed again, what else is new? After digging us out of the hole that Daddy Bush dug for us and leaving us in the black, George spent all that and brought us to where we are today.

[amrt5016]

THAT''''S GOOD!!! Tell us some MORE stupid moronic ideas that will just piddle away what''''s left of our economy without accomplishing SQUAT.
Posted by txgrouch2008 at 08:50 PM : Jan 05, 2009

And you think we can continue to enjoy a high standard of living if we keep falling behind other countries in science and math? Do you know what parts of the U.S. are the poorest? Those where ignorance and low skill levels are endemic. Their intellectual skills are third-world level and their political leaders are no better than what you see in parts of the third-world.

[McHineguy]

So why lie about WMDs? Why forge evidence? Why start a war based on manipulation of public opinion? Why didn''''''''t the previous presidents start this war and maybe could have done a better job? What stopped them?


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Posted by amrt5016 at 08:39 PM : Jan 05, 2009

Let me try an answer. I admit its speculative but consider:

The WMD were a ruse within the Sadam government that even Sadam thought was real. His government was very opressive and the way ahead was to make war-like promises which is what his underlings did. So far, we know that is true. After 9/11 our government stepped up its espionage efforts aroudn the world and found evidence that Sadam was buying materials from France and Germany to assemble WMD. So far, still true and well known. We also know that our stepped up espionage found documents internal to Sadam that described these WMD.

Now the speculation: In the frightened state our country was in at that time, did we (Bush and Cheney) overestimate the legitimacy of those stolen documents? The Bush haters will say he did but we have no way to know for sure. Our accusations without evidence are equally as wrong.

I dont think Bush has done a great job either. But if we want fairness we have to give it.

[tincup356]

nearly any ideas are better than giving billions to the people that made bad loans in the first place....why would anyone think that all of a sudden ...they can do better next time....but dont watch us,,, and,,, you can''t come back on us ....and you cant tell us what to do with it while we all pat each other on the back and pocket millions each.......It''s a friggin congresspiracy,,,and amounts to treason.

[amrt5016]

Posted by amrt5016 at 08:39 PM : Jan 05, 2009

If you can''''t answer that question yourself, why the HELL are you even asking it?
Posted by TexHillGirl at 08:45 PM : Jan 05, 2009

Doesn''t mean the person I was having a conversation with couldn''t provide a meaningful response. But that''s the point. I don''t think anybody can. This non-answer demolishes his arguments.

[amrt5016]

MAKE OUR COUNTRY A GREAT NATION AGAIN.
Posted by txgrouch2008 at 08:35 PM : Jan 05, 2009

We can do this by making our workers educated and skilled to compete in the global economy, achieve superior productivity, create wealth by innovation. We can make education an important goal in our spending priorities to create this workforce.

[flsunjnky]

Embellish us TexHillGirl, exactly what fresh new ideas does Bush have?