Comments on: NRA Begins Push To Tarnish Obama On Guns

CBSNews.com Reports: As Pro-Gun Group Tries To Make Gun Control Into Wedge Issue, Some Gun Advocates Remain Wary Of McCain

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Mr. Montopoli, you may notice that McCain indicated that statistics show "gun control is a law enforcement failure." He has changed his view specifically because all the statistics suggest the U.S. is right and countries that have disarmed themselves are wrong.

In the UK, September of 2007, Munday in the Times said that since the UK gun ban, elderly people now have teenaged thugs enter their homes and the seniors are helpless. The teenagers simply use body parts, bats, and knives against the frail. He indicated that the ban has not done anything to cut the rise of firearms in the hands of criminals.

Most of us have seen the video of people manufacturing automatic weapons in caves in Afghanistn with no electricity. It''s not rocket science. That''s why Browning, Smith & Wesson, etc. were able to create such advanced weapons basically in the equivalent of their garages.

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trishab58, some sources include

"More Gun Control, More Crime" http://www.haciendapub.com/humeven1.html

Shows the more gun control, the more crime:
http://www.gunmap.org/

The states given the highest grades by the Brady Campaign have the worst crime rates! It would be funny if it weren''t tragic.

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fairbalance2, it''s no secret that CBS, CNN, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and NBC (plus others) are biased in favor of Obama.

I like the man. I agree with him on many issues. But I think he is "dead" wrong on his views on gun issues. I think he grew up in a city where gun hysteria was the bias of the day, and he actually believes that a disarmed public would improve things.

I wonder what Rodney King would think about only police and military being armed? Of course, criminals will always have guns, since they are so easy to manufacture. Kids used to make guns in shop class, for heaven''s sake! You will not stop supply and demand. Everyone guns are banned, a black market has quickly moved in to arm the bad guys.

I think we''re not teaching kids enough about the history of the U.S. so they understand why our forefathers advocated the right of all law-abiding citizens to bear arms for self defense.

Most presidents appreciated all the NRA does to train people to be safe handlers of firearms. The NRA is a leader in teaching firearm safety in the home. We''ve lost sight of that with all the venomous attacks by the Brady Campaign. They''ve really gone too far.

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trishab58, when I was growing up, everyone had a dog (early warning system) and also dad''s service pistol, a deer rifle, and a shotgun, and kids weren''t ignorant in their safe use. Carrying .22 rifles on the schoolbus was no big deal. Schools had rifle teams, and turkey shoots were in every town.

It''s only been in more recent times that we''ve taught people to be hysterical about guns. Yes, I knew how to load a handgun, rifle, and shotgun, and I lived in the suburbs. But my parents knew that if they were in the garden and someone came to the front door, I might need that skill.

It made me safe, disciplined, and responsible. Like the other kids in my neighborhood.

What if instead of spreading mass hysteria we actually taught kids gun safety? We have air rifles we could use today to teach recreational shooting in school. I think the allure of guns by kids today owes a great deal to the hysteria spread about them.

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I wonder why CBS never critics one of the Obama''s or Obama supported 527 advertisements? Many have complete distortions of the truth? Those of us who are still independent in this race must go to sources other than the main stream media to get the true picture.

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trishab58, you may not realize this, but the NRA is mostly supported by individual members and truly is a grassroots organization.

The Joyce Foundation, where Barack Obama served on the board, funds anti-gun organizations. So do George Soros, Michael Bloomberg, and a host of other very wealthy people and organizations. It is the anti-second amendment crowd that receives more money from large corporations and the wealthy.

The Brady Campaign has gone too far, and made false accusations against the NRA. I''m sorry for Sarah Brady and her trauma, but now she wants to disarm everyone.

Most citizens are responsible people, and our founders realized that. We have leaders who want dictatorship instead of freedom and liberty.

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fyi, more from Obama''s website (fair use for educational purposes):

"... and making guns in this country childproof." -- If a family wants to put a trigger lock on because they have children, well and good. But this is about making a gun so only a single individual can even fire it--and the technology is probably 10-15 years away to do this effectively. If the individual is wearing gloves, was cut, etc., the gun could be useless, as is now the case with this technology. [think about a family whose gun is only useable by one person and that person is the one attacked first. The family would be sitting ducks]

"... They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets." -- First, this effort was a complete failure, which is why no one pushed to renew it until election time. Fewer than 1% of guns involved in crimes fall in this category.

Further, these guns are not used in battle, and the features listed are those that make ordinary firearms safe and even useable for women, the disabled, seniors, etc.

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And trishb58, legislation doesn''t save kids. There are 20,000 anti-gun laws already on the books, and in the UK, where they banned them, their crime rate went up!

Only the tools of self-defense will save your kids from home invaders and car-jackers. Pure and simple. The police show up in time to find a crime scene.

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trishab58, you are way off base. There have always been and until we learn ways to switch it off, always will be sociopaths and lunatics. They self-select to head countries, in case you hadn''t noticed.

It is foodhardy to give up your right to self-defense.

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bigsk8fan, Watch who you call a neocon.

Straight from Obama''s CURRENT web page (fair use for educational purposes):

"would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment" -- note that this flies in the face of the desires of law enforcement is is nothing but an effort by anti-gun vigilante Michael Bloomberg to get the data for himself.

"They support closing the gun show loophole" -- this is a euphemism for banning private sales. Notice that statistics show criminals don''t get their guns this way--this only affects ordinary citizens

If you want Obama to be president, then at least convince him to support ALL of the U.S. Constitution.