Comments on: Candidates Continue Duel Over The Economy

McCain Calls For Greater Oversight Of Bailout Plan; Obama Pushes Fiscal Responsibility To Pay For It

[ubrew12]

glenda said: "Instead [Dems] should look back to just two years ago to see what a roaring economy we had been enjoying the previous six years with gasoline at $2.19 a gallon and unemployment at 4.6%. "

You repubs had just doubled the national debt, taking it to $10 trillion. You had just hatched two massive investment bubbles: one in the housing sector, and another in the investment section (derivatives). Debt and bubbles: the sure signs of a ''house of card'' economy.

Translation: None of it was real.

When you and I look back, we''re looking at two different things. You''re looking at the myth of Camelot. I''m looking at the ''house of cards'' reality.

You can wax poetic all you want. A house of cards is, eventually, a house of cards.

The slightest wind...

[glenda743]

The Democrats should be very careful when they start shouting %u201CBad Economy%u201D and how we need to %u201CChange%u201D%u2026%u2026..
Instead they should look back to just two years ago to see what a roaring economy we had been enjoying the previous six years with gasoline at $2.19 a gallon and unemployment at 4.6%. That%u2019s when the voters then started talking about %u201CChange%u201D and they elected a majority of Democrats in both houses of Congress%u2026. In just these past two short years with the Democrats, gasoline has gone to $4.00 a gallon and unemployment is up to 6.1%.....
The liberal leadership in Congress should not be allowed to continue the devastation of our economic well being%u2026%u2026. Change???? We%u2019ve had about enough Democratic change this country can handle%u2026..

[ubrew12]

daffy64 said: "I almost hope McCain wins so he can wear this mess! "

I feel the same way. I''ve felt for some time that Bush seemed to be timing things so that a Dem president following him would be there when the stock market tanked, and all the bills due from the Reagan/Bush years came due. At that point, Repubs would be able to point at Dems for decades as fundamentally incapable of running an economy.

Repubs often point at Carter as the worst prez ever, when it comes to the economy. But Carter inherited the cost of the Vietnam war, and unlike Repubs Nixon and Ford before him, said ''the buck stops here'', and actually chose to PAY that debt. That tanked the economy and its hung like a dead albatross around his neck ever since. Meanwhile, Reagan comes to town, triples the national debt and the economy BOOMS!! Its just the grandchildren who''ll have to pay for the Reagan administration and, apparently, no one CARES about THEM!!! So Reagan gets airports named after him, gets to go down in history as this great President, when all he did was charge his reelection campaign to his grandchildren.

[shanev137]

Remember when you go to vote that McCain said last week, "the economy is fundamentally sound"...almost word for word what Hoover said in 1929.

[royalia]

Yup, yup, yup, we''re in a big hole. I''m tempted to check Limbaugh''s website. I check it every now and then just to see how he can defend everything Bush/Cheney have done. He still does it. I seriously would like to have a mock trial with him as the defendant just to see how he would answer smart people asking him tough questions that he HAS to answer.

[no_gop]

"Will Obama Democrats stop playing politics long enough to pass the economic rescue package?"

Posted by negrovote

Hey watch this negrovote...it works the other way too.

Will McCain stop playing politics long enough to pass the economic rescue package?

yep pretty much a useless statement either way.

Posted by lilbrother4 at 08:44 PM : Sep 22, 2008



Lil,

I been noticing, republicans are not to smart. They talk alot of non-sense.

[ubrew12]

royalia said: "Thank you Ubrew12. Does everybody know that our $800 billion and counting Iraq War is the first war that has not coincided with a tax increase? "

You''re right, and I apologize for my last post, of course I''m voting Dem. Its just that, the hole dug by the Republicans is SOOO DEEEP!!!! Its hard to look at the task before us as we undertake the effort of filling it. Sarcasm seems the better direction...

[emelder]

Has anyone else noticed that McCain/Palin are trying to appear to be Democrats?

Sure. And have you noticed that they NEVER use the words Republican or Republican Party ... it''s like it has become a word of shame, and all association with President Bush has become off-limits. What a charade. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck ... it''s a duck! Even if he has lipstick!

[ubrew12]

stevex47 said: "If palin had a "wardrobe malfunction", how many votes would that be worth? "

She''d get my vote.

The next prez is the designated ''fall guy'' anyway (although the crumbling of America started a little early for poor Bush), so it doesn''t much matter WHO is prez, they get to be Mr. Prez ''Bad News'', to the rest of us.

[egresor]

Wasn''''t bush a businessman once before he was president? I don''''t think he did very well at that either.

Posted by royalia

yes he was and you''re wrong. he evaded insider trading charges pretty well. it helped that daddy was who he was.
he denied having been informed by his lawyer that to sell his stock (sinking company proping up to protect the exec.''s) would be insider trading. so what does he do? he sells it anyway and when caught they delayed and misled the authorities so long with the paperwork order to produce that thwy gave up. miraculously they found the paperwork and in it the lawyer admitted he advised bush jr to sell would be insider trading (which bush denied).
so bush actually should be a felon and never had gotten to be president....if truth and justice prevailed. which it doesn''t.
howabout we hook social security up with the stock market?

[homespunlady]

Has anyone else noticed that McCain/Palin are trying to appear to be Democrats?

They rant against "corruption" and the "failures" of REPUBLICAN leadership and I couldn''t believe an earlier speech where McCain actually mentioned Republicans as a cause of the problems we''re now facing.

They DON''T put their party on their signs and use "Democrat Blue" for their background on their signs.

I started to NOTICE this LACK of IDENTITY in a LOT of the Republicans running for office.

Sheesh you''d think they''re EMBARRASSED by THEIR OWN PARTY.

But the candidates for the HIGHEST OFFICE refusing to acknowledge on their signs they are REPUBLICANS and trying to HIDE that fact TOO???

Where are the BRIGHT RED backgrounds I USED TO SEE on their signs and the word REPUBLICAN PROUDLY DISPLAYED on those signs?

Where is the TRUTH as to WHAT PARTY they belong to?

I see a LOT of Democratic SIGNS PROUDLY DISPLAYING their PARTY affiliation.

GOP - the "STEALTH PARTY" HIDING their IDENTITY and acting like IDENTITY THIEVES stealing the OTHER Candidate''s PLATFORM, signs, ideas, etc in hope of MISLEADING voters??

How PATHETIC can Republicans get by trying to be Democrats? OWN UP and CHANGE PARTIES if you''re going to use the SAME platform and talking points!

That way maybe the Constitution Party or Libertarian Party might have a chance.

[stevex47]

If palin had a "wardrobe malfunction", how many votes would that be worth?

[citizenusa-2009]

If we want to destroy our foes, all we have to do is send Shrub/Cheney, McSame and The Hockey Mom to run for office. Together, they have and will send any country into oblivion!! As many have said, we are dealing with the ENEMY FROM WITHIN.

[homespunlady]

The United States IS NOT a CORPORATION.

The CONSTITUTION contrary to George Bush%u2019s opinion is NOT "just a G@D D@mned piece of paper".

Leadership of a nation is a MUCH DIFFERENT animal than "running a corporation".

Believing the US is nothing more than an extension of a corporation is one of the most foolhardy beliefs I can think of.

A great NATIONAL LEADER pays attention to and works to benefit the CITIZENS of the nation he/she leads and aims to maintain International good will which in turn provides mutual benefits for ALL nations involved.

A great CORPORATE CEO pays attention to the CORPORATE BOTTOM LINE and works to benefit the OWNERS (stockholders)which are mostly OUTSIDE INVESTORS - often to the detriment of those that are the "citizen laborers" of that CORPORATION. He or she for that matter aims to maintain GROWTH OF CORPORATE DOMINANCE internationally which in turn benefits THE CORPORATION with little to no regard to mutual benefit of others which are mostly considered potentially rival competitors.

That has become the BANE of the US. EVERYTHING is becoming viewed through the distorted lens of "corporate belief".
It%u2019s turned local education into "charter schools", Religious devotion into "mega-churches", Prisons into human warehousing "profit centers", and our nation into something frighteningly close to the nightmares described in "1984" and "Brave New World".

[citizenusa-2009]

What a load of c.r.a.p.! Bush and his thugs have driven this country into the dumper and WE have to pay for it??? Are you kidding me??? This "Administration" needs to be held ACCOUNTABLE. Dennis Kucinich correctly said that if WE are going to be charged $2,300 EACH for the bail out, WE SHOULD HAVE STOCK IN THE FAILING BANKS AND PROFIT WHEN THEY GET BACK ON THEIR FEET". As far as our deficit, let''s STOP spending TRILLIONS on Shrub''s war and put it BACK into the economy.

[royalia]

Thank you Ubrew12. Yes, it''s really not hard to figure out. The Limbots scream "tax and spend liberals". Everybody else should be screaming "lower taxes and more spending conservatives". Does everybody know that our $800 billion and counting Iraq War is the first war that has not coincided with a tax increase? Wasn''t bush a businessman once before he was president? I don''t think he did very well at that either.

[ubrew12]

For 30 years, Republican Presidents, working with Republican Congresses, have cut taxes but refused to cut spending, (which is politically unpopular) . The resultant $10 trillion debt now threatens to enslave an entire generation of Americans. The taxes that were ''cut'' weren''t actually cut, they were ROLLED onto the backs of the unborn. Today, just the $300 billion cost of paying the INTEREST on this debt, absorbs all taxes paid by everyone West of the Mississippi River. It pays for no roads, no law n order, no sewers, no armed forces. It pays rich people and foreigners for holding off our foreclosure for one more year, giving us a year to come up with NEXT years $300 billion. But, thanks to Bush doubling an already gigantic debt, the global ''smart money'' already knows America is an irresponsible borrower and have devalued the dollar in response, meaning ordinary Americans must now pay more for EVERYTHING they buy: gasoline, clothing, groceries, etc. Adding insult to injury, Republicans have worked to loosen government oversight of our lending industry, so that NOW the ordinary taxpayer must bail out multiple banks, and take OVER Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, because of their ''irrational exhuberance'' following deregulation: potentially a trillion dollar bailout.

Now, do voters REALLY want to reward Republicans for DOING this to America? What kind of signal does that SEND??? To me, it sends a signal that ''THE BEATINGS SHOULD CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!!!''

[stevex47]

"... then he could ask Condolessa Rice (whom he really should have asked to begin with)."

I totally agree. If they really wanted EXPERIEMCE, he should''ve picked her. Total disrespect on mcsames part.

I dont like either one of them, but, Rice and Colin Powell are the only reich wingers I have even the slightest respect for.

They should''ve been the repub ticket.

[nearl4511]

I''ve said "thanks, but no thanks" to the Palin nomination since I heard her say it at the convention.

It is, after all, the perfect line. But of course.... I am telling the truth.

[stevex47]

Dual over the economy?

Excuse me, what have the nutjobs done to the economy in the last 8 years?

Absolutely amazing that there is one person on this planet that thinks a repuclicon knows ANYTHING about running an economy.