Comments on: Obama, McCain Mark 9/11 At Ground Zero

Candidates Also Appear Together At Presidential Forum On Service As Politics Put On Hold

[downtowner97]

McCain wasn''t wearing a flag lapel pin today when he went to Ground Zero. That makes him not only unpatriotic, but suspect in other ways as well. Perhaps he''s a secret Panamanian!

[downtowner97]

UBREW - Forget Obama and McCain for a minute. I''d LOVE to get Joe Lieberman in front of a TV camera and ask him to tell us which country he feels is more important: The US or Israel.

He is a citizen of both countries, votes in both countries, and travels between both countries. He was a Democrat when the Clintons were friendly to Israel, but has switched parties in time to Campaign for McCain, who is more pro-Israel than Obama. Lieberman has zero chance of being re-elected in the US after turning on his party. He''d have a good chance of getting elected in Israel after this election, though.

[lucasnico]

So let me get this straight. McCain goes to Pennsylvania to be with the families of Flight 93 and Obama goes to be with Bill Clinton. This guy just doesn''''t get it. He can''''t take one day off to do the right thing.

Posted by cincy490 at

Obama was at ground zero....speaking of "doesn''t get it" you''re from the town of cornholing!

[ubrew12]

downtowner97 said: "Bin Laden made but one demand of the United States after 9/11. He said that the US needed to pull ALL personnel out of Saudi Arabia. Bush immediately complied. "

Americans have such short memories they don''t seem to recall that Al-Qaida didn''t really attack Americans until we opened those bases in Saudi Arabia during the 1992 Gulf War. And then, they and many OTHER muslim extremists warned us repeatedly where THAT would lead, and the first attempt to bomb the World Trade Center was just a YEAR later. They''ve consistently held to the same line: get out of the birthplace of Muhammed, and didn''t let UP on the attacks until Bush Jr complied!

American''s have been so propagandized.

Of course, I approve of Bush''s war on terror: that part of it that''s targetted actual AL-QAIDA: on the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The rest of it, all $2 trillion and counting (and 4000+ body bags)? Thats about oil.

Someone saw the perfect opportunity to hijack American fear and rage after 9-11, and turn it into a bid for oil hegemony (and NO, I don''t mean American oil hegemony: that''s how compromised the neocons are, the guys pulling the strings aren''t even American, I''ll bet).

[downtowner97]

Ask yourself why Bush is such a good friend the royal family of Saudi Arabia even though they attacked us. Ask yourself why he calls Saudi Arabia a "partner in the war on terror" even though Saudi schoolchildren are taught to kill Americans. Ask yourself why Bush agreed to pull ALL our troops out of Saudi Arabia when Bin Laden asked him to. Ask yourself why Bush continues to sell our most advanced weapons to Saudi Arabia.

Now ask yourself why McCain worked so hard to support Bush''s policies, including his policy of torture. Ask yourself why McCain won''t even appear in the same room as a VIDEO of Bush. McCain preaches change, but the only thing he is willing to change, are all his opinions about abortion, amnesty, imperialism, and torture.

[marcodele]

I''m just very happy for the Republican neocon nutjobs.
Somebody else is driving their crazy uncle around.

[downtowner97]

15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi. The government funded schools in Saudi Arabia teach kids that the surest way to go to heaven is to kill a Jew or an American. After 9/11, Bush invited Prince Abdullah to Crawford. Abdullah became king shortly afterward when his dad died.

Bin Laden made but one demand of the United States after 9/11. He said that the US needed to pull ALL personnel out of Saudi Arabia. Bush immediately complied. Saudi Arabia has since asked that we supply them with billions of dollars in weapons. Bush got the request through the Republican controlled congress easily.

Compare that to Obama''s relationship with Reverend Wright and get back to me.

[ubrew12]

One month after 911, Ray Hunt [texas oil billionaire and Loyal Bushie] was appointed to the Presidents Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [he also sits on the board of Halliburton]. Their advice? Get Iraqi oil, no matter how many American soldiers it kills.

Now Ray has a no-bid contract to exploit oil from Northern Iraq. He''s not even doing it through the Iraqi government, which Bush wants companies to do, he''s gone around them through the Kurds for higher profits. The gov''t will let him do it cuz he''s a Bush man.

Bush says the high cost of oil is a matter of ordinary Americans ''putting food on the table''. The truth? Its about texas billionaires advising him to invade Iraq and then reaping the profits from his doing so, while other Americans try on their new arms and legs.

Iraq is about oil.

[ubrew12]

HDStretch said: "WHy attack Iraq? www.husseinandterror.com"

Al-Qaida''s purpose for 30 years has been to lop off the secular heads of Arab states, and replace them with religious heads. This is in all their statements, and is revealed in their actions. Who was Saddam Hussein? He was the secular head of an Arab state! With Al-Qaida painting a bullseye on his forehead, why would he befriend them? His fellow Baathist, Hassan, in Syria KILLED 30,000 muslim extremists when they got too ''uppity'', and Hosni Mubarak of Egypt has done likewise. The rulers of Saudi Arabia certainly ACT religious, but they aren''t religious enough for Al-Qaida.

Admit it: Al-Qaida are religious terrorists, and Hussein was a SECULAR leader, not Sunni or Shiite, and certainly not Wahabbist.

Saddams support of Palestinian terrorists was good publicity, thats all.

Reputable counter-terrorism experts reveal what a casual reading of what the relationship between Hussein and Al-Qaida SHOULD have been (they should have been at each other''s necks), does in fact reveal: taking him out HELPED Al-Qaida, as THEY THEMSELVES SAID after his capture and hanging.

Iraq is about oil. Admit it.

[hdstretch]

No link? WHy attack Iraq?

http://www.husseinandterror.com/

Not my website. But, pretty informative if you are into things like supporting evidence.

[ubrew12]

The Iraq war has been financed entirely on credit; and partly because of that, the US national debt has increased by two-thirds in just eight years.

But things keep getting worse: the deficit for 2009 alone is expected to be more than a half-trillion dollars, excluding the costs of financial bail-outs and the second stimulus package that almost all economists now say is urgently needed. The war, and the way it has been conducted, has reduced America''s economic options and will deepen and prolong the economic downturn.

Bush has clearly USED the 9-11 tragedy, and its victims, to make a bid for oil hegemony in the Middle-East. Thats immoral, and is likely something McSame will continue.

[cincy490]

So let me get this straight. McCain goes to Pennsylvania to be with the families of Flight 93 and Obama goes to be with Bill Clinton. This guy just doesn''t get it. He can''t take one day off to do the right thing.

[ubrew12]

mbskoczen said: "Next time don''t inhale so deep.."

Google ''afghan oil pipeline''. And breathe deeply.

[mbskoczen]

Central Asian oil, through Afghanistan to Pakistani Ports, to refineries in Saudi Arabia.

Control of that oil route is also why the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in the 1970s.

Posted by ubrew12

Dude you have no idea what you are talking about...

Next time don''t inhale so deep..

[ubrew12]

mbskoczen said: "Afghanistan oil"

Central Asian oil, through Afghanistan to Pakistani Ports, to refineries in Saudi Arabia.

Control of that oil route is also why the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in the 1970s.

[iphyt4u]

15 of the 19 bombers on 911 were from Saudi Arabia. We should have attacked that country without trying to rebuild a government. We should have told them we''re in charge, and we''ll do things are way. Bush lied, and people died. Iraq had no presence of Al Quaida until after the U.S. invaded. The invasion led to a ten fold increase in the number of individuals who considered themselves Al Quaida memebers.

[mbskoczen]

Iraq and Afghanistan were about oil.

Posted by ubrew12

Afghanistan oil???????????

They don''t have any oil to even speak of.. Dope is there number one cash crop and I can tell you''re a heavy user.

[ubrew12]

Most analysts agree that at least part of the rationale behind Russia''s invasion of Georgia, reigniting fears of a new Cold War, was its confidence that, with America''s armed forces pre-occupied with two failing wars, there was little America could do in response. Russia''s calculations proved correct.

[ubrew12]

mbskoczen said: "What we are interested in is making sure the bad guys of the world who want to hurt Americans are denied a safe haven. And if that means changing governments so be it"

That safe haven was Pakistan.

Iraq and Afghanistan were about oil.

[nvorr]

Posted by BagdadsHere4 at 08:45 PM : Sep 11, 2008
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Hey ***, Energy is NOT a response to the question, "What experience does she have in the field of national security? You''''re as confused as he is.

Posted by nvorr at 08:58 PM : Sep 11, 2008


I called you an A*S*S*W*I*P*E and wanted to make sure you knew it.