Comments on: McCain: Biden A "Very Wise Selection"

Tells Katie Couric Obama's Running Mate “Very Formidable,” Is "A Good Friend And Good Man"

[actornaught]

JOHN MCCAIN - PROVEN BAD JUDGEMENT

John McCain has been consistently wrong (or lying) about Iraq. Then he lies (or can''t remember) how easy he said it would be in Iraq. There''s no reason to believe a word he says now, just like w.

McCain: "I believe that we can win an overwhelming victory in a very short period of time." [CNN Late Edition, 9/29/02]

McCain: "We''re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad." [CNN Late Edition, 9/29/02]

McCain: "There''s no doubt in my mind that once these people are gone that we will be welcomed as liberators." [MSNBC, Hardball, 3/24/03]

McCain: "We have not told the American people how tough and difficult this task would be... they were led to believe this could be some kind of day at the beach." [CNN, 8/22/06]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-a5T0HsJpw

[watching_you]

McCain: Biden A "Very Wise Selection"
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General Wesley Clark: McCain a very poor choice.

%u201CThe truth is that, in national security terms, McCain%u2019s largely untested and untried. He%u2019s never been responsible for policy formulation. He%u2019s never had leadership in a crisis, or in anything larger than his own element on an aircraft carrier or in managing his own congressional staff. McCain%u2019s weakness is that he%u2019s always been for the use of force %u2026.. the only time to use force is as a last resort. When he makes ditties about bombing Iran, he betrays a disrespect for the office of the presidency.%u201D General Wesley Clark, ret.

http://ochairball.blogspot.com/2008/06/wesley-clark-says-mccains-untested.html

[samthetvcat]

PS I guess the trick would be establishing a direct link to demonstrate Rove''s influence on McCain which is a challenge in light of McCain''s war hero maverick status. But isn''t it established fact that Karl Rove is an ''advisor'' to McCain? And he''s all over Fox and in the WSJ . . . IF the documentation is there to support the claim that Karl is basically running a re-election campaign for a third term as White House ''brain'' via a different host body then maybe Barack doesn''t look quite so bad relatively speaking anymore (?)

I don''t know . . .

[samthetvcat]

pt 1

Oh okay, so according to the NYT Biden''s being dispatched to paint McCain as similar on the ISSUES to Bush? I think that fails because McCain''s succeeded in establishing a REALLY big contrast between himself and Barack on experience such that McCain voting like a Republican isn''t going to cause a lot of ripples.

Not sure but I feel like they really need to address the character issue first before they can go to issues. Because everybody knows Magoo is a GOPig, and the country''s already leaning heavily Dem on the issues. But McCain has been running a character campaign and Barack''s suffered a serious loss of credibility.

[samthetvcat]

pt 2

Maybe Dems aren''t willing to go there, but I think the way to gain ground over McCain is to paint him as similar to Bush because they''re both dopes who get turned into puppets by the ''evil'' GOP and used for ulterior agendas. So like McCain''s a good guy, but with McCain you are stuck with Karl Rove. Karl Rove who is in contempt for refusing to testify before Congress, architect of the Iraq war, outer of Valerie Plame, creator of the Swift-Boat ads, knee-deep in the US attorney payback firings, tried to entrap a Dem Governor in a corruption/infidelity scandal, allegedly manufactured fake documents that got Rather fired from CBS, etc. Karl Rove who says McCain who''s against off-shore drilling needs to be for off-shore drilling and then one week later McCain''s for off-shore drilling.

Like Dems MIGHT have to show that McCain''s associates are worse than Barack''s to make him look good in comparison (?)

[forevertru-2009]

Obama is Deans and Pelosi''s boy. If he is elected, they will be running the country. Think about it. It started with Dean actually trying to take the vote away from millions in FL and MI. Which he couldn''t get by with anyway and he knew it. Thats exactly why IT ISN"T GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER ALL!! But he sure missed up the Primary for Hillary which was the intention all along. Pelosi can take pride in leading the House to complete failure. Which was no small accomplishment considering the Democrats had everything going for them when they took over the House. And what happened to Hillary was very similar. Before Obama came along, Hillary''s bid for the Presidency was a sure thing. Now the Democrats may or may not win. So think before you vote. Do you want Obama to do to America what Pelosi and Dean has done to the Democratic Party???
A vote for Obama is a vote for corruption.

[apprxam]

Well, at least he isn''t from the Democratic Leadershp Council...Makes it all the likely that the Clintons and the DLC will do their best to F-up this weeks convention.

Oh, yeah.......No more triangulation!

[samthetvcat]

Posted by SharnCedar

I think you''ve basically summed it up in a nutshell.

Those ''aggressive'' attacks they''re planning in painting a portrait of McCain just aren''t going to stick unless he becomes the clear frontrunner because there has to be a strong contrast for people to switch focus otherwise - and with the ticket being Barack and Biden I don''t think that can be done.

I thought it was possible because of his time in Washington to portray McCain as too cozy with lobbyists, but then Barack went and picked Biden, and it turns out that whole Rezko deal saved Barack $300k on a house and Rezko got government contracts (not sure about the timing whether it was quid pro quo though).

Barack should have picked Hillary - not just because she brings the votes, but because she''s got a personal history of being treated badly by the GOP which kind of gives her special credibility in calling them ''evil'' (for lack of a better word) . . . oh well . . .

[sharncedar]

Obama supporters, you must admit that Obama has sold himself as a person who represents change and a more honest kind of politician. Now, it is thus critical that he is indeed an agent of change, otherwise, he is really a very evil liar. Becuase he came out as a new kind of politiican, if that is not true, then he is far more evil ,more disgusting, than any other politician since even a jaded old liar like McCain never claimed to be about hope and changing politics for the better.

So is Obama an agent of change, true change, or a really disgusting liar?

What kiind of vice presidential pick was "Biden"? Does he represent change, or is he one of te most entrenched and status quo politicians, a sick old freak who supported the Iraq war 100%, and the Yugoslavia bombing 100%, and in general is a completely dishonest fruad of a man and a Senator? Or is Biden a fresh face who represents idealism?

[x-republican]

Biden was a good choice. I can live with that. I''m glad it wasn''t Hillary or Edwards.