Comments on: House Committee Hears The "I-Word"

House Members Try To Refrain From Uttering "Impeachment" In Hearing On Bush Use Of Power

[alphaa10-2009]

Rep. Dennis Kucinich has been right all along-- the nation''s chief executive officer is a crook and a scoundrel.

While being a soundrel is not technical grounds for impeachment, high crimes and misdeanors against the United States and its people very definitely are.

The Bush crime and its modus operandi are now exposed for all to see.

The Bush / Cheney scam is the most massive conspiracy in American politics, compromising the integrity of the entire federal executive branch.

(see "Bush Should Be Impeached"-- 2)

[alphaa10-2009]

BUSH SHOULD BE IMPEACHED-- 2

The conspiracy blackened the reputation of an entire party, the GOP congress which abdicated its responsibility and sold its soul for power, while Bush and Cheney ran amok through the American constitutional system. .

The Bush / Cheney scam called into serious doubt the morals and integrity of even the judicial branch-- the same US Supreme Court which had so covered itself with shamefully partisan behavior to put Bush in office.

The Bush scam was all about what Cheney called the "remaining prize" in the MidEast-- the vast oil assets of Iraq. The plot began well before 911. Only six months before the twin towers fell, and promptly after moving into his office, Cheney had his secret meeting with Big Oil-- the details of which Bush and Cheney continue to deny the American public to this day.

(see "Bush Should Be Impeached"-- 3)

[alphaa10-2009]

BUSH SHOULD BE IMPEACHED-- 3

And well they might. By now, as the oil majors rush to the landgrab in Iraq, it becomes clear that those Americans shouting "No blood for oil!" had it exactly right.

Bushscam put the progress of America into reverse for eight long years, plundered the treasury, ruined the economy and wasted more than 4,000 American lives (not to mention hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives) and tens of thousands of American wounded-- all to launch the biggest political crime in American history. The Bushscam is bigger than Teapot Dom and Tammany Hall by an order of magnitude-- our grandchildren will wonder about us as they read about it in history class

Bushscam is a case of misplaced trust. In the wake of 911, the US congress gave Bush the critical mission to bring bin Laden to justice. Bush, instead, began his campaign to do anything but. The first order Bush gave Clarke, his national security adviser, was to find out how the Iraqis were involved.

(see Bush Should Be Impeached-- 4)

[brianbwb-2009]

"...Bill Clinton was impeached because he lied about an AFFAIR, and Bush lied about WAR and they can''''t even say the word impeachment around him..." Posted by mgpm

I posted this a few pages back, I repeat it, as I think it is relevant to your point.

"While I agree with you 100%, at this point we must be pragmatic about this.

The central goal should be to bring Bush and his co-conspirators to justice. By trying for an impeachment, we subject the matter to a vote, where there are enough complicit politicians to block the process, or make it take longer than Bush has left in his term. (and if he leaves office mid procedure, it may result in charges being dropped, and then we lose our chance to bring him to account for his crimes.

By filing criminal charges after he leaves office, we eliminate the possibility of a Cheney-issued pardon, indeed we can also arrest Cheney, and the rest of them.

Our range of charges will also not be limited in scope, as are the current hearings, we can take it anywhere we need to in order to achieve justice."

[alphaa10-2009]

BUSH SHOULD BE IMPEACHED-- 4

Bush saw 911 not as a national disaster and failure on his watch, but a joyous opportunity to bend every rule, tell every untruth to put his hands on Iraq, as if in imitation of his father. We recall Bush, Sr. managed to wrap himself in the American flag to rescue grateful Kuwait, and none called him on the hypocrisy-- not even to remind him he was the one who kept Saddam in power, and even shipped the monster his own supply of American nerve gas to use at will against whomever he might.

So, like father, like son? Not quite-- from most appearances, Bush Sr., had lost his moral compass by degrees as the cost of doing business. But son George Bush did not even understand the questions of ethics and responsibility, in the first place.

In that respect, alone, Bush is the all-time American anti-patriot. Not content with a nondescript career, he was hungry for power in the worst way. Bush is the individual who, in November, 2005, facing an assembly of his own party members critical of his NSA spying program, bristled like a teenager caught drinking after curfew-- "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It''s just a GD)((#@*! piece of paper!"

Is this figure, who claims to be president of the United States, the same who pledged an oath to "protect, preserve and defend" the document he calls a "GD)((#@*! piece of paper"?

[andor3]

Kucinich is a HERO. If only more elected officials had his courage and balls, America might regain her strength and power.

[mgpm-2009]

It''s hard to believe that Bill Clinton was impeached because he lied about an AFFAIR, and Bush lied about WAR and they can''t even say the word impeachment around him. What the H*LL is wrong with this picture? We should have made George Bush swear on a Bible in COURT that he had evidence of WMDs before he was given the go ahead to war.

I don''t mean to get maudlin, but elsewhere is a poem I carried in my pocket throughout the years 1967 - 68.
The last two years of a four year hitch in the Navy.
I learned a lot about politicians while in the Navy.

Come all ye young rebels, and list while I sing,
For the love of one''s country is a terrible thing.
It banishes fear with the speed of a flame,
And it makes us all part of the patriot game.

My name is O''Hanlon, and I''ve just turned sixteen.
My home is in Monaghan, and where I was weaned
I learned all my life cruel England''s to blame,
So now I am part of the patriot game.

This Ireland of ours has too long been half free.
Six counties lie under John Bull''s tyranny.
But still De Valera is greatly to blame
For shirking his part in the Patriot game.

They told me how Connolly was shot in his chair,
His wounds from the fighting all bloody and bare.
His fine body twisted, all battered and lame
They soon made me part of the patriot game.

It''s nearly two years since I wandered away
With the local battalion of the bold IRA,
For I read of our heroes, and wanted the same
To play out my part in the patriot game.

And now as I lie here, my body all holes
I think of those traitors who bargained in souls
And I wish that my rifle had given the same
To those Quislings who sold out the patriot game

[brianbwb-2009]

"As long as we let them walk away with the money, we set a precedent that such crimes against humanity are actually worth sacrificing a few idiots, and many innocents, and thus we ensure future occurrences."
Posted by brianbwb

Had we done so to Johnson, Baker, Cheney, and Schultz during, or after Vietnam, we wouldn''t have this problem now.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Then, mebbe THAT will put a chapter into the history books they future presidents will pay attention to.
But who knows..." Posted by hadenough43

I believe they will only pay attention if the money that was stolen by Bush''s friends in the corrupt, no-bid, nepotistic, crony-ridden, collusionary exercise was recovered from the assets of all involved.

As long as we let them walk away with the money, we set a precedent that such crimes against humanity are actually worth sacrificing a few idiots, and many innocents, and thus we ensure future occurrences.

"4100 (and counting)dead soldiers and he calls the hearing "anger management". Typical Texan." Posted by hadenough43

And so 1,220,580 + 4,100 = 1,224,680 and counting.

But let us not forget also the wounded (30,000 US, 500,000 Iraqis), displaced (estimated at 10 million), and otherwise harmed, and then call it "anger management".

You can also call it Lars'''' rapture, he really gets off on people dying.

Posted by brianbwb
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It''s all so hideous - especially after Johnson and the "Gulf of Tonkin Resolution". It may be best to let his term expire, then at least attempt to haul his sorry a** into court on treason charges, that may inspire a quick trip to the property in Paraguay.

Then, mebbe THAT will put a chapter into the history books they future presidents will pay attention to.

But who knows...

[brianbwb-2009]

"MEDIA PROPOGANDA" Posted by terrorislamv

Does this imply that your irrelevant hate mongering is making you look like an idiot for free, You aren''t even being paid to be a death worshiper?

What a sucker.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Look at that picture of Kucinich. I''''ve seen more life like faces in a wax museum." Posted by pirmin3

Agreed, but I personally don''t care how he looks, as long as he continues to help us call to bring Bush and his klan to justice.

[brianbwb-2009]

"nothing but lies,,," Posted by terrorislamv

Not even once have you been able to prove that, so you just fall back on name calling. Typical.

"HUSSEIN WALKS ON WATER AND TURNS IT INTO WINE,,," terrorislamv

Another irrelevant example of your lies, it is much easier for me to prove your statement as lies than for you to prove mine as such.

[pirmin3]

Look at that picture of Kucinich. I''ve seen more life like faces in a wax museum.

[brianbwb-2009]

" The House Rules and Manual points out that suggestions of mendacity, or accusations of hypocrisy, demagoguery or deception were out of order.

In other words, no one could accuse the president of committing high crimes or misdemeanors, if they weren%u2019t actually voting on whether he committed high crimes or misdemeanors."

This means those such as King could intentionally introduce known lies into the proceedings, and not be called on it.

So the way around this is to discuss the evidence, and determine whether or not the statements made by the Bush klan leading us into military misadventure were accurate, and if not, whether they knew at the time they made then that they were not accurate.

After that is established, you can then close the hearing, and then use the media access to call him any and everything thing that applies, liar, traitor, mass murderer, torturer, thief, corrupt, the whole nine yards.

[pirmin3]

Bush has no fears of impeachment. That would mean congress would have to make a decision and we all know that ain''t gonna happen. Decisions are dangerous politically.

[r9119111]

"The decision before us is whether to honor our oath as Members of Congress to support and defend the Constitution that has been trampled time and again over the last seven years," Kucinich testified.

Kucinich''s resolution points to the justifications given by the White House for Congress to pass legislation authorizing the President''s discretion for leading the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Kucinich noted that, contrary to claims made by President Bush and other administration officials, Iraq did not possess a means or inclination to threaten or attack the United States, did not support al Qaeda, and was not developing weapons of mass destruction.

"The decision before us is whether Congress will endorse with its silence the methods used to take us into the Iraq war," Kucinich said. "The decision before us is whether to demand accountability for one of the gravest injustices imaginable.

"The decision before us is whether Congress will stand up to tell future Presidents that America has seen the last of these injustices, not the first."


Enough said. Thank you.

[brianbwb-2009]

"4100 (and counting)dead soldiers and he calls the hearing "anger management". Typical Texan." Posted by hadenough43

And so 1,220,580 + 4,100 = 1,224,680 and counting.

But let us not forget also the wounded (30,000 US, 500,000 Iraqis), displaced (estimated at 10 million), and otherwise harmed, and then call it "anger management".

You can also call it Lars'' rapture, he really gets off on people dying.