Comments on: Obama Wrapping Up Overseas Trip In U.K.

Presumptive Democratic Nominee Defends World Tour, Says It Will Help U.S. By Strengthening Ties With Allies

hadenough43 - good point.

I agree that we should have expected more of a guerilla war fare after his troops got routed, but I''''m not certain the President should have thought of that particular situation. It should have been the generals.

I believe Petreaus has done a much better job than his predecessor.


I mis-judged you, sorry. I was thinking you were saying the same old tired thing about helmets, flak jackets, and humvees with out enough armour.

Posted by RosieOD4Prez
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Well, the Generals did think of it. Shinseki, Shalikoshvili. But those General got sacked.

[bagdadshere2]

HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION HOUSE OBTAINED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUNDRAISER.HOW? HE ''''WORKED'''' AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO. HE HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB OR RECEIVED A PAY CHECK THAT WAS NOT GOVERNMENT-FUNDED AND/OR TAXPAYER SUPPORTED. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POSITION.

Posted by Platteman at 08:54 PM : Jul 26, 2008

BARRACK HUSSEIN OSAMA spends 30 million bucks per month on his campaign for President knowing that if he wins he will receive a 400k bucks a year. Doesnt make any sense. Its clear he wants to profit and steal our money as commander in thief.

Posted by whitemale08
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I can give you one act of failure that is driving a lot of people into fits of some of the craziest hysteria known to man.....
He failed to be born with a white skin...

[taotxzen]

taotxzen - when did the 1st LT write his book ?

Posted by RosieOD4Prez

He was one of the first into Baghdad - see below. And before you go to the Surge fixed everything, it didn''t for him and his fellow servicemen and women.


Lieutenant Rieckhoff and his 38-man infantry platoon spent 10 months in one of the most volatile areas of Baghdad, trying to maintain order, protect civilians, track down insurgents, and protect themselves from snipers and roadside bombers. It quickly became clear that the American mission in Iraq had vague strategy, flawed tactics, and overchallenged, underequipped soldiers. Rieckhoff made it back alive, determined to tell the truth about what was happening and demand accountability from elected officials.

Iraq has been a rich man''s war and a poor man''s fight, with the Iraqi people barely visible in the American media. Moreover, Rieckhoff''s experiences showed him that censorship and bias abound even in these days of "on-the-spot" reporting, distorting what anyone following the war through the general media can learn. A most commendable eyewitness report on Iraq.

[smirk5]

In turn, Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama and McCain both believed that troops should be honored and noted that the Illinois senator had visited troops in Iraq and Afghanistan last week and had made numerous trips to Washington''s Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Obama still didn''t want injured soldiers "pulled into the back-and-forth of a political campaign," Vietor said in a statement.

"That''s why we imagine Sen. McCain would be surprised that his campaign released this wildly inappropriate accusation that politicizes the issue," Vietor said.

[bagdadshere2]

HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION HOUSE OBTAINED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUNDRAISER.HOW? HE ''''WORKED'''' AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO. HE HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB OR RECEIVED A PAY CHECK THAT WAS NOT GOVERNMENT-FUNDED AND/OR TAXPAYER SUPPORTED. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POSITION.

Posted by Platteman at 08:54 PM : Jul 26, 2008

BARRACK HUSSEIN OSAMA spends 30 million bucks per month on his campaign for President knowing that if he wins he will receive a 400k bucks a year. Doesnt make any sense. Its clear he wants to profit and steal our money as commander in thief.

[rosieod4prez]

hadenough43 - good point.

I agree that we should have expected more of a guerilla war fare after his troops got routed, but I''m not certain the President should have thought of that particular situation. It should have been the generals.

I believe Petreaus has done a much better job than his predecessor.


I mis-judged you, sorry. I was thinking you were saying the same old tired thing about helmets, flak jackets, and humvees with out enough armour.

[whitemale08]

I''m back...

So we were debating on whether or not Obama might have the rare ability of "unlimited success".

I read everyone''s post so far but you have yet to come up with one act of failure.

All I''ve seen are non-issues that are used as smear on these hate talk radio shows like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.

[platteman]

DURING HIS VERY BRIEF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE HE HAS MANAGED TO AMASS THE NUMBER ONE ULTRA LIBERAL VOTING RECORD OUT OF THE ONE HUNDRED MEMBERS.
HE HAS VOTED CONSISTENTLY FOR BIGGER GOVERNMENT AND HIGHER TAXES.HE HAS VOTED FOR BIG ENTITLEMENTS AND LEGISLATION THAT WOULD SEVERELY CURTAIL AMERICA ''S ABILITY TO FIGHT TERRORISM AND TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS AND OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS AROUND THE WORLD.
BUT, HE IS A GOOD ORATOR.ISN''T THAT A COMFORT?
YEAH,I THINK I SEE HOW WELL HE COULD UNITE THE COUNTRY.
I THINK THE TRUTH IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW CHIEF PILOT.HE HAS NEVER FLOWN AN AIRPLANE,IN FACT HE HAS NEVER EVEN SAT IN THE COCKPIT, BUT HE SAYS HE HAS RIDDEN ON PLANES BEFORE. WE ARE SURE HE WILL GUIDE US SAFELY THROUGH THE STORMS WE MAY ENCOUNTER ON THIS FLIGHT.
HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD THE STORY ABOUT THE WOLF HIDING IN SHEEP''S CLOTHING SO HE CAN DESTROY THEM FROM WITH-IN ? THE HAND WRITING IS ON THE WALL!

[rosieod4prez]

Smirk5 - aw come on, you don''t need to insult me, or do you ? Don''t you feel my equal ?


And just because I won''t stay on your topic you want to ''quit'' me.

Hmmmmm. Well, I have to say, I have heard more lame excuses for leaving the debate. But not many.

I''ll be graceful and let you leave if you wish.

I know you feel it is ''using'' the troops when McCain brings them up with respect to Obama. But consider this - since he spent 5 years in a POW camp, he knows what it is like to have the very worst inflicted upon you, short of death.

Obama doesn''t.

Since McCain understands this, he is of course going to point it out. Obama needs to be a little more aware of who is paying the real price in this war.


That''s what our future Commander in Chief should be aware of. Not just the other requisit hob-nobbing with every political head to bolster his weak foreign policy back ground.

[taotxzen]

WHEN YOU GET CAUGHT IN LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE, THAT IS FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!!
Rev. Wright
Ayers
Rezko
Auchi
Stuart Levin
Your Muslim Record
you dint hear speeches carried live...........

F-A-I-L-U-R-E !!!!!!!!!!!!11

Posted by fenner

fenner, did you see all that on Fox News??




ATTENTION All Sheep:

McClellan: White House gave FOX commentators talking points

By: SilentPatriot

This just in from the Department of the Obvious:

Scott McClellan admits to Chris Matthews that the White House made a deliberate effort to use FOX News commentators like Sean Hannity and Bill O%u2019Reilly to disseminate White House talking points.

Matthews: %u201CDid you see FOX television as a tool when you were in the White House? As a useful avenue to get your message out?%u201D

McClellan: %u201CI make a distinction between the journalists and the commentators. Certainly there were commentators and other, pundits at FOX News, that were useful to the White House.%u201D [%u2026] That was something we at the White House, yes, were doing, getting them talkng points and making sure they knew where we were coming from.

Matthews: %u201CSo you were using these commentators as your spokespeople.%u201D

McClellan: %u201CWell, certainly.%u201D

Straight from the source; at least now you know when you''re getting fleeced.

[platteman]

HIS FATHER WAS A BLACK AFRICAN MUSLIM FROM KENYA,
WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN FAMILY.
HIS MOTHER WAS A WHITE AMERICAN ATHEIST FROM KANSAS
WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS AMERICAN FAMILY?
HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER WHEN HE WAS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD AND WENT BACK TO AFRICA BY WAY OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY.HOW?WAS HIS FATHER WEALTHY?
HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MUSLIM AND THEN MOVED TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS ENROLLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL.
WHEN HE REACHED HIGH SCHOOL AGE HIS MOTHER SENT HIM TO HAWAII TO BE WITH HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS AND HE WAS PUT INTO AN EXPENSIVE PRIVATE SCHOOL.HE LATER WENT TO HARVARD UNIVERSITY. HOW? WERE HIS GRANDPARENTS RICH?
HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION HOUSE OBTAINED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUNDRAISER.HOW? HE ''WORKED'' AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO. HE HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB OR RECEIVED A PAY CHECK THAT WAS NOT GOVERNMENT-FUNDED AND/OR TAXPAYER SUPPORTED. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POSITION.

[rosieod4prez]

taotxzen - when did the 1st LT write his book ?

[smirk5]

RosieOD4Prez,
"And what will you do if I find some proof that most of the troops in Iraq are demonstrating that they don''''t like Obama as much as they like McCain ?"

If you found that proof, it would have nothing to do with what we''re talking about.
Back to the point, it''s my opinion that McCain will use our troops politically every chance he gets to win the Presidency. His actions continue to support my opinion. And, if you''re fair, saying that Obama avoided wounded troops in Germany for political reasons is nothing but opinion as well and the argument itself is currently being used politically by McCain. Who has a commercial right now that involves our wounded troops in Germany and is designed to attack their political opponent? It''s McCain and that isn''t mere opinion. That is fact. Hopefully, you won''t ask me to prove it''s existance because the commerical is posted all over the net right now. Now, I''ll quit with you because you can''t stick to the subject.

Posted by RosieOD4Prez
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No, not peeved....
But I respectfully disagree a little.
I think they went in with what they thought was sufficient strenght to take out Saddam, always with the niave notion that "Jeffersonion Democracy" would break out all over the place as soon as the locals stopped "greeting us as liberators". And this would all lead to the core goal of creating an oil colony for the financial benefit of those that the neocons served.

All of this shows an incredible lack of knowledge of the history and culture of that region. They started getting educated in a hurry, though. Starting with the looting of Baghdad - which clearly showed that they didn''t send in enough resources to begin with.

Also, what I''m saying is that the people who sent the troops in have no business pointing that "you don''t support our troops" finger at anybody other than themselves.

[smirk5]

RosieOD4Prez,
If you can read, I already told you it was my opinion. Now, do you have any sources that prove that Obama avoided visiting the troops in Germany for political reasons? Or, is that mere opinion fine with you without any proof? My opinion is based on the way McCain has acted during this campaign. He''ll keep doing it too. Whenever McCain can use the troops as tools to attack Obama, he will. Guaranteed. He hasn''t let me down so far.

[rosieod4prez]

"Incidentally, if you want proof of things before you believe them. What actual proof does McCain have that Obama avoided those troops for political reasons? There isn''t any. - Posted by Smirk5


Is that a challenge ?

And what will you do if I find some proof that most of the troops in Iraq are demonstrating that they don''t like Obama as much as they like McCain ?

Would you publicly admit you are wrong ?

Mind you, if I''m going to look for the proof of something that I freely admit is only my opinion, I want some recognition you are wrong if you are.


No weasle wording on my part, or on yours.


BUT - as I am stating that it is my OPINION, then the best you can hope for doing nothing but issuing the challenge is know that if I don''t respond, I could not find anything and the topic gets dropped.

On my part - I have to do the research.


Deal ?


Or does the prospect scare you ?


Dems shoulda nominated

[pagirl8]

Success in Iraq?? How do you define success?? I''m sure Hitler considered the holocaust a success too, but that doesn''t make it so.

[smirk5]

WellHell3,

And McCain doesn''t ever try to minimize all the crazy wrong things he''s said about Iraq in the past? You know he does. For almost a year, he deflected almost all questions about his past credibility on Iraq with this answer: "We are where we are" and then he''d go on to not address past statements on Iraq that weren''t even close to reality.

[taotxzen]

Where you got in trouble though was confusing your OPINION with fact. That''''s when I tell you my credentials for telling you that you are wrong.


BTW, I haven''''t been in the US Army since 1976. So, see, you still haven''''t had an Army officer tell you what your opinion should be.

Posted by RosieOD4Prez

Don''t get me wrong, I try to thank every person in uniform that I see, firefighters also. But, I listed McCain''s voting record, that is not my opinion on McCain, he bought that horse and he''s gotta ride it.

I have lived in the Middle East, that does not make me an expert but I do tend to understand the mindset. Also, I was opposed to the Iraq invasion in the beginning and then I read Chasing Ghost: Failures and Facades in Iraq: A Soldier''s Perspective by Paul Rieckhoff, I recommend it.