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by armydog2 July 25, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
WellHell3
what is you point about the casuality count in Iraq and Afghanistan? Your numbers are all wrong over 4000 dead in Iraq and that number does not show how many died in hospitals after they were injured. The pentagon does not count them. And how many of these Troops have you ever spoken too? the asserting that they beat down al quaeda and sent them running to afghanistan. What war did you fight in? Man get a clue and stop feedeing into mccains delusional rhetoric. He is a p-i-ss poor liar at best.
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by firststate July 25, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
WellHell3
The numbers stand. Facts are facts and the DoD isn''t likely to over-report casualties. That''s why they take as long as they do to confirm the deaths.I don''t know if they are counting among the wounded those soldiers who were injured by, but survived electrical shock due to KBR''s shoddy electrical work, but those kinds of injuries might account for the higher DoD numbers of wounded.
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by firststate July 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
WellHell3
At http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/CASUALTY/oif-wounded-total.pdf the DoD lists 30,349 casualties wounded in Iraq through 07/05 so the icasualties figure of 30,324 is actually low, but the death toll of US Forces in Iraq is still over 4,000.
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by nanc12 July 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
No kind of a descript of YOU who''''ve never picked up a gun to fight a war in your life!
Posted by WellHell3

and you fought which war again? Rowdy, if it''s such common knowledge that bush is a brilliant war tactician and the Iraq war was an amazing maneuver to lure the terrorists ''out of the caves and into the desert'' kindly show us that even ONE war expert, or member of our government, shares that opinion.
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by firststate July 25, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
WellHell3
The department of defense at http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/CASUALTY/oif-deaths-total.pdf confirms 4,106 American Military deaths in Operation Iraqi Freedom as of July 5, 2008. Operation Iraqi Freedom is in Iraq, not Afghanistan. The 4,106 does not include deaths of our forces that weren''t confirmed by that date. It sometimes takes several days for the confirmed deaths to catch up, especially when a soldier is injured in one city or province and then is transferred to other military hospitals, usually winding up in Germany. Since 4,106 were confirmed killed in Iraqi Freedom through 07/05 by the department of defense, it''s obvious that the of the 4,124 deaths indicated on the icasualties site did not include 560 deaths in combat in Afghanistan as you stated. Fatalities in Afghanistan are kept separately at at http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/CASUALTY/OEFDEATHS.pdf under Operation Enduring Freedom, as well as the separate Afghanistan section of the icasualties site.
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by nanc12 July 25, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
But of course we all know that you people sitting in your chairs behind a computer screen know more about it than they do.
Posted by WellHell3

Kind of a perfect description of yourself, Rowdy dear.
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by nanc12 July 25, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
It''''s only amazing to Obama honkers...those that live in reality...and those that actually fought the wars have a much better view of the fighting.
Posted by WellHell3

LOL - amazing! Rowdy, a much better view would not mean MORE soldiers killed per year in Afghanistan after the US invaded Iraq if the plan was to lessen the death toll by invading Iraq. Wow, what are you smoking, wiccan?
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by zerato-2009 July 25, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2
008/04/14/cbsnews_investigates/main40122
49.shtml
Posted by WellHell3

Perhaps you should have read more tahn the 1st paragraph, because the second paragraph gives the total on april 14th of this year which contradicts your assertion
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by zerato-2009 July 25, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
Umm, no they weren''''t!

And no, I''''m not racist at all...I''''m just against people that behead people, cut off their hands, sell their daughters like camels in marriage, strap bombs on themselves and blow up innocent people, drive planes into buildings, round people up in churches, torch them, and machete anybody that runs out...

If that makes me a racist, then so be it!
Posted by WellHell3
To you, the entire muslim community is guilty of terrorism and you wish we would turn their land into a parking lot. A genocide I am glad you finally admitted you are racist

You were wrong and here is my proof
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/

Where is your proof
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by nanc12 July 25, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
You might go look at that again, sir.
Posted by WellHell3

You can look at it again, sideways, backwards and forwards, and the page still will say ''Iraq'' at the top and US killed 4,124.
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by nanc12 July 25, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
Speaking of Rowdy not being good with facts and figures -

If bush was so ''brilliant'' to have this amazing plan to invade Iraq to save the lives of our soldiers in Afghanistan, (which is too hilarious to contemplate, btw) - why were the US soldier death counts in the double digits (12, 69, 57) BEFORE the US invaded Iraq, and in the triple digits (130, 191, 232 and 150) AFTER the US invaded Iraq. Rowdy, you need to get some new talking points from your Republican bosses, lol.
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by nanc12 July 25, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
WellHell3
http://icasualties.org/oif/ reports Iraq Coalition Casualty Counts and list 4,124 confirmed American forces deaths in Iraq with one pending confirmation. Their figures do not include casualties in Afghanistan.
Posted by firststate

thank you firststate - rowdy''s not real good with facts & figures, lol
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by firststate July 25, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
WellHell3
http://icasualties.org/oif/ reports Iraq Coalition Casualty Counts and list 4,124 confirmed American forces deaths in Iraq with one pending confirmation. Their figures do not include casualties in Afghanistan.
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by ajmarine111 July 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
Naw,....just don''''''''t like you.

Posted by AJMarine111 at 07:09 PM : Jul 24, 2008"



Aw Cletus - you''''ve hurt me feelings
Not being liked by you cletus, means I''''m doing everything correctly

Posted by causeway_v at 08:14 PM : Jul 24, 2008




In your warped mind I bet you think you are.

What you are is lame.

You come on this forum and run you mouth about the USA and take advantage of it, but don''t have the b*lls or guts to at least make up a place to be from so people on this site can see if you can take it like you dish it out.

No, you sit there in front of your keyboard in your little bra and panties and giggle to yourself about how funny you think you are. You really crack yourself up don''t you.

What you are is pathetic. If this is what you call fun, you need to get a life.

In the mean time, you are still a little girl in her mother''s basement somewhere giggling to herself.
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by zerato-2009 July 25, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
You might try to get your facts straight, Nanc12, out of those 4,124, 560 of them were killed in Afghanistan...


Frankly they could make a parking lot of the whole damned place and eliminate the bastwards! Then EVERYBODY in the world would be safe from them!

Posted by WellHell3

How could some one be so wrong so many times. The death totals are kept separately. nanc is right you are wrong

And did I read your post right, genocide of a whole people. And you claim you are not racist ?
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by engymass2 July 25, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
McCain does not stand a chance...
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by nanc12 July 25, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
we''''ve lost 3,564 Posted by WellHell3

You might try to get facts straight before you post them. US Killed 4,124 US Wounded 30,324

The invasion of Iraq by brilliant bush resulted in the biggest recruiting successes ever enjoyed by al Qaeda. They weren''t coming out of the caves of Afghanistan, they were coming out of the training camps all over the world. And if we had ''stayed the course'' in hunting bin Laden, instead of invading a country that had not attacked us, 35,000 US families would not be facing the horror they are now. Bush''s hunt for bin Laden is a mirror of OJ''s hunt for the real killer.
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by nanc12 July 25, 2008 6:41 PM EDT
Strange isn''''t it...he was AGAINST fighting terrorists in the open deserts of Iraq Posted by WellHell3

Strange, isn''t it... the terrorists weren''t IN the deserts of Iraq before Bush invaded.
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by nanc12 July 25, 2008 6:33 PM EDT
I don''''t think I mentioned any that we''''d lost or have been wounded
Posted by WellHell3

Yeah, I know. That was my point. Your brilliant president got over 4100 American soldiers killed and over 30,000 grievously wounded. For what? To get Saddam out of Iraq. Saying ''Bush'' and ''brilliant'' in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
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by nanc12 July 25, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
For a little comic relief, you can watch McTesty refusing to allow a reporter from the Wall Street Journal ask him a question. The expression on Sen. Lindsay Gramm''s face when he does it is priceless.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/25/mccain-blows-off-wsj-repo_n_114955.html
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