Comments on: Gore Sets 10-Year Clean Energy Goal

Former VP Challenges Next President To Produce All Electricity Through Earth-Friendly Sources

[minnick8-2009]

Truth is that what Al Gore said about his role in developing the Internet is 100% true and factual, look it up.

Posted by andor3

I did find a reference to Al Gore and the Internet and his role was that he sponsored a Bill in Congress to fund the infrastructure. That is quite different from "inventing," the Internet.

[ubrew12]

FFarkel said: "At 5 acres of solar panels per megawatt, you need 2,125,000 acres of solar panels to equal 425,000 megawatts of electricity. 2,125,000 acres is about 3,320 square miles. We%u2019ll get right on it Al."

A typical suburban roof yields 900ft2 of area for solar panels. At 0.85W/in2 solar constant, available for 6hrs/day, at a 10% conversion efficiency to electricity, that rooftop solar installation would produce enough power after 15 days to meet the families 1000 kWhr per month typical requirement. The other 15 days of the month, they''d be getting paid for putting electricity back on the grid.

You should be careful with that ''can''t do'' spirit, it could be contagious.

[minnick8-2009]

"The design of the Internet was done in 1973 and published in 1974. There ensued about 10 years of hard work, resulting in the roll out of Internet in 1983. Prior to that, a number of demonstrations were made of the technology - such as the first three-network interconnection demonstrated in November 1977 linking SATNET, PRNET and ARPANET in a path leading from Menlo Park, CA to University College London and back to USC/ISI in Marina del Rey, CA." . -

What role did Al Gore play?

[minnick8-2009]

"So, the baby Internet was born in 1967 and was a three way link between..."

No that was the start of the ARPAnet not the Internet, not the same thing at all or even close really...

Truth is that what Al Gore said about his role in developing the Internet is 100% true and factual, look it up.

Posted by andor3

I have read three web sites about the evelopment of the Internet, and not one of them mentions Al Gore. The first web site refer to the ARPAnet as the forerunner of the Internet. If you have a reference where I can look up good ol'' Al''s involvement, I would like to see it.

The first web site I found says:

The Internet and Transmission Control Protocols were initially developed in 1973 by American computer scientist Vinton Cerf as part of a project sponsored by the United States Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) and directed by American engineer Robert Kahn.
The Internet began as a computer network of ARPA (ARPAnet) that linked computer networks at several universities and research laboratories in the United States. The World Wide Web was developed in 1989 by English computer scientist Timothy Berners-Lee for the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN).

More to follow.

[louiville2]

diatreme- FYI there were naturally occurring nuclear reactors on the planet before man. One in Africa, The first one found, operated for more then 250,000 years producing enough energy for a small city. The "Waste" from that reactor, it was found had moved only a few meters in over a million years. Go back to your fearing leaders and get some more answers

[ffarkel]

Let%u2019s see --- currently we get about 845,000 MW of electricity from fossil fuels (coal, oil and natural gas). Let%u2019s round that up to 850,000 to account for modest growth.

Now let%u2019s assume a 50/50 split between wind and solar for replacement %u2013 425,000 MW each.

Using current technology the land density for Wind Power is approximately 60 acres per MW and for Solar its approximately 5 acres per MW %u2013 but the efficiency rating of those plants is only approximately 25 per cent. Let%u2019s look at some numbers shall we.

At 25 megawatts to 1500 acres for a nice wind farm of 60 to 70 turbines, you would need 25,500,000 acres and 1,020,000 to 1,190,000 wind turbines to equal 425,000 megawatts. 25,500,000 acres about 39,844 square miles.

At 5 acres of solar panels per megawatt, you need 2,125,000 acres of solar panels to equal 425,000 megawatts of electricity. 2,125,000 acres is about 3,320 square miles.

So combined we need about 43,164 square miles. BUT, with only a 25% efficiency rating you%u2019d actually need about 4 times that to produce on average the 850,000 megawatts of needed electricity %u2013 so we%u2019d actually need some 172,656 square miles of land.

Or, an area about the size of the states of Tennessee, Ohio, Virginia, Kentucky and Massachusetts combined.

We%u2019ll get right on it Al.

[louiville2]

diatreme- "The worst thing a wind generator can do is throw a blade, killing a...cow? The worst case at nuke plant involves the deaths of 100,000''''s." Let''s see so your for "Strip Mining" mining millions of acres of land to acquire the "Rare Earth" minerals needed to put in all those surplus windmills you suggest is needed to ensure a constant supply so that we will not have to have a back-up power plant. Dumb at the least. And of course since you suggest the middle of the country for those farms (we wouldn''t want liberals to suffer to ugly eye sore) the additional transmission lines needed to transmit the power to where people live and the transmission line losses. Wow you''re a genius [sic].

[wdrussell1]

I see that the pro-polution goon squad of the GOP is out in force.

[ubrew12]

drivelphobe said: "Gore exemplifies the term dufus. He is clearly an aged spoiled brat"

Dufus there made a $100 million profit off his Google investment in the last 8 years.

[drivelphobe]

Gore exemplifies the term dufus. He is clearly an aged spoiled brat, with ambitions that greatly exceed his capabilities. Even Jorge Bush was more favored by the electorate and that is a major embarrassment. No wonder he became a recluse after the election defeat.

[louiville2]

diatreme-"Wow, dumb and dumber complimenting each other! Nice touch.

Too bad you''''re both too foolish to actually understand the issue and the ramification that renewable energy makes us much more secure as a nation, as we won''''t need to import as much foreign energy sources."___________

Another "Red Herring" tsk tsk tsk. I said I was for alternative energy, DUH. I it wasn''t for guys like you in the 70''s campaigning against Nuclear power we would have low carbon power and we would be safely using up fissionable materials instead of stock pilling the materials which then can fall into the wrong hands. I heard in the 70%u2019s Greenpeace was being funded by Oil, Gas and Coal. Since they will not post their donators who knows.

[jimfinster]

Shut up Gore, you pompous, arrogant bag of methane.

Nobody with any brain gives a *** about what you say.

Posted by OneAmerican



Shut up OneAmerican, you pompous, arrogant bag of methane.

Nobody with any brain gives a *** about what you say.

[oneamerican-]

Shut up Gore, you pompous, arrogant bag of methane.

Nobody with any brain gives a *** about what you say.

[minnick8-2009]

A properly designed wind farm resembles a majestic stand of evergreens. Done the CA way, it resembles a weedlot.

Posted by ubrew12

Good, Californians deserve a weedlot.

[minnick8-2009]

Thank GOD this moron wasn''''t elected.

Posted by mbcsmith

Precisely, and on that thought, where Obama calls Gore, "Vice President," should that be former Vice President? I didn''t know Gore was the Vice President. I thought he hadn''t been in office since the year 2000. Have I been asleep? Or does Gore have delusions of grandeur?

[fedup_w_pols-2009]

Hey Al Bore, in ten years from now I will still be using power in an attempt to catch up to what your home alone burned this past year. So go screw your hypocritcal self. This does not include all the jet setting you do which I do not. The climate is changing due to the hot wind coming from this political windbag. The earth has a virus, it''s called liberal/socialist/communist tree huggers syndrome. I hope they find a cure soon before they infect us all.

[minnick8-2009]

Lets put Gore, Polisi, Dean, Peta and the stupid environmentalists all in San Fransicko and wall it up and turn out the lights and then we blame it on Bush. :)

Posted by cbrsp

That is a good idea, but isn''t that extremely harsh punishment for the current residents? Why punish them just because they are same gender persons and drug addicts?

[louiville2]

diatreme-wrote-"YOu mean the Medicine Bow facility...hmm, that''''s interesting, because PUC of Colorado claims it generates about 18,000,000 kWhrs per year:" I guess this is your "Red Herring" loser.

[minnick8-2009]

Loony left Environmentalists are the reason we are in this mess. They blocked drilling, blocked new power plants, they are even working on blocking alternative energy example:

Posted by louiville2

Yea louiville2!!! I''ve been saying similar things for months, yet some people think it''s the Republicans who got us into this mess. I appreciate your comments and examples of environmentalists actions. Most environmentalists are DEMOCRATS.

[dowell100]

"Just as John F. Kennedy set his sights on the moon, Al Gore is challenging the nation to produce every kilowatt of electricity through wind..."

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Yes, but Kennedy was President, Gore is just a dufus.

Gore was not elected, and is just shooting off his mouth by trying to set policy. If we ignore him, maybe he''ll just go away.