Comments on: McCain Praises Obama At NAACP Convention

But Says Ill. Senator Is Wrong On Opposing School Vouchers

If we were sincere in our desire to see our kids educated, then we would immediately remove the very powerful local cultural and religious influences that local communities have over the incomes of the teachers. Any teacher knows that if he dares teach any kid anything, no matter how true, factual, supported by evidence, or real it may be - if it runs counter to the popular mythology, prejudices, or cultural norms of the surrounding community - then he/she is messing with his paycheck.
That''s why kids learn, well and truly, that Washington "could not tell a lie" when he "supposedly" chopped down the cherry tree..
We have to ask ourselves: "What do we want for our kids, education or indoctrination?"
Just look at what indoctrination has gotten us so far.

[apprxam]

Vouchers can only work if it''s done honestly and competitively.

They are a resource and, therefore, limited and should be presented that way. Not every child is going to get the benefit of them because placement will be limited. Whatever the level of white munificence, it''s safe to assume that there is a limit. Tolerance goes bt so far.

Next, the only fair way to issue vouchers would be by competition. These children need special attend, but in the midst of this, competent and able children are being forgotten. A new direction toward addressing the needs of those more capable is sorely needed.

They should''nt be used to push public schools to improve. That must come from charter schools, who''s flexibility makes it more fitting for that purpose.

[cold777]

Memo To: "cold777" ...you are right on the money!!! :)


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Posted by MJHS1967
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THANKS! :)

[hungry1968]

Not only that, smaller class sizes in public schools (the theoretical outcome of offering vouchers) is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. Special needs or bright children can go to specialized schools and not be stigmatized or disruptive. Think about it!

Posted by spadeisspade at 06:49 PM : Jul 16, 2008





If you have 1000 kids, and they each are allocated $10,000 a year, and 500 of them decide to opt for vouchers, do you REALLY think the loss of $5,000,000 is NOT going to affect the public schools and the level of education they''re able to deliver?

I''m not decrying private schools, but I AM decrying taking public tax money, and GIVING it to private schools in the form of vouchers, when that tax money was TAKEN FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS!

If YOU want YOUR kids to go to a private school, then YOU should pay for it. There should be exceptions for "disadvantaged" kids, but that should be ALL that there are exceptions for. The public school system CANNOT afford to lose that much money.

And private businesses CANNOT be trusted to perform government functions - that''s been proven a hundred times over.

[mrmazerati]

I like McCain. He knows a great man when he sees one.

[spadeisspade]

Hungry-

Relax. There is a tax allotment dedicated to each child enrolled in public school. It factors in what each child costs to actually educate them. Vouchers would divert that money, already alloted for that individual student, toward a DIFFERENT school, not necessarily even a private one.

I have a brother who was doing terribly in public school because of a learning disability that his teachers were not capable of dealing with due to large class sizes. He transferred to a charter school that awarded a low income scholarship and has blossomed into a good student. Do you think kids like him should have to endure crappy education just to keep his alloted tax dollars into a public school? It could have completely changed his future had he stayed.

Not only that, smaller class sizes in public schools (the theoretical outcome of offering vouchers) is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. Special needs or bright children can go to specialized schools and not be stigmatized or disruptive. Think about it!

[hungry1968]

I have many close black friends. I am in favor of senator John McCain for president because he has good military experience, extensive legislative experience, and has very good leadership qualities. In my eyes, his opponent does not measure up to John.

Posted by ChrisL45 at 06:43 PM : Jul 16, 2008





military experience has NOTHING to do with being a president.

What leadership qualities has he exhibited to you? I haven''t seen ANYTHING that would make him a good leader. He makes poor decisions, he makes MANY, MANY mistakes, and he''s not even sure of what he''s talking about half the time.

Not leadership qualities I''m looking for - that''s for sure.

[chrisl45]

I have many close black friends. I am in favor of senator John McCain for president because he has good military experience, extensive legislative experience, and has very good leadership qualities. In my eyes, his opponent does not measure up to John.

[hungry1968]

WHEN are you going to get it in your FOOL HEAD! LOCAL money funds public schools! Very very LITTLE, if ANY national money funds public schools!

Public schools are only BAD if the locals are too GD lazy to see that they''''re run PROPERLY!

Posted by RowdyWicca at 06:23 PM : Jul 16, 2008





And exactly where in the f**k do you think the voucher money is going to come from?

There is absolutely, NO WAY that our taxes should be taken OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS, with the bulk of it going to PRIVATELY run SCHOOLS!! What is going to happen to the children that will STILL have to go the public schools, AFTER they lose MILLIONS to privately run corporations? Those kids will suffer, while the kids at the private schools will benefit.

Exactly HOW do you propose to decide WHO gets a better education than someone else? Eenie, meenie, minnie, moe? Race? Parents wealth?

My son has already graduated, but I would be pretty pisssed off, if my son had to go to a public school AFTER they lost MILLIONS in education funds that I PAID TAXES FOR, and then he received a "substandard" education, while someone else''s kid got a better education while paying the same amount of taxes!




And haven''t you learned by now, that government run operations are ten times MORE efficient than private industries, and are MUCH, MUCH less susceptible to corruption?

[zerato-2009]

What BS! I have employees who turned down the insurance plan I offered BECAUSE they can take their child to an Emergency Room and get their TEMP TAKEN!!!
Posted by RowdyWicca

You must not pay much. An ER visit is wher they will show up if you do not have a health plan. Otherwise they will not get any medical care. Get nationla health care and we will not have to pay for the espensive er visits.