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by parrot123-2009 July 8, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
Obama can''''t even get even get an airplane to work right, how can one expect him to steward this nation.
Posted by talkingham at 10:16 AM : Jul 08, 2008

You seem very badly Retarded.
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by realpatriot1 July 8, 2008 1:28 PM EDT
talkingham,

Obama doesn''t claim to be an airline mechanic just as McCain doesn''t claim to be a steward of the economy.
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by omega39-2009 July 8, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
Obama can''''t even get even get an airplane to work right, how can one expect him to steward this nation.

Posted by talkingham

Mr. McCain is uncomfortable firing people or banishing them entirely. His orbit remains filled with people who have been demoted without being told they are being demoted, like Mr. Davis, who continues to hold the title of campaign manager even as Mr. Schmidt manages the campaign.

McCain can''t even handle simple personnel matters, how can he be trusted to make the tough decisions?
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by indyvet66 July 8, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
So, McCain says he will balance the Federal Budget

Hey McCain - LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE! What a crock of B.S. McCain is pursuing precisely the same economic plan as George Bush.

McCain wants to perpetuate the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy (that he vehemently opposed in 2001).

McCain wants to perpetuate the unnecessary war in Iraq that he and Bush caused, and he expects to balance the budget?

Come on McCain. If you keep doing the same thing, then you will probably get the same result - and George Bush added $3,000,000,000,000 ($3 Trillion) to the national debt in eight years, while Bill Clinton ran a net budget surplus.

It has been said that "One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."

Well, McCain wants to continue doing the same things that Bush has been giving us for 8 years, and he claims that you will get a completely different and better result.

McCain is either insane, or he expects the voters to check their mental faculties at the door and just vote on knee-jerk issues. Don''t fall for McCain''s pandering.

Vote Obama in 2008 or expect the same sorry results from Senator McBush.
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by talkingham July 8, 2008 1:16 PM EDT
Obama can''t even get even get an airplane to work right, how can one expect him to steward this nation.
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by taotxzen July 8, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
3 Facts That Could Change This Election (If We Share Them With Enough People)

by ihavenobias

Here are 3 Stunning facts that could not only change the outcome of this election, but with regard to the first two points, they could change the results of every election for years to come *if* we make enough people aware of them.

1) Over 70% of our National Debt was created by just 3 Republican presidents.

2) According to new research from Larry Bartels out of Princeton, real middle class wage growth is double when a Democrat is president compared to when a Republican is president.

3) 90% of Americans would pay less taxes under Obama''s proposed tax plan compared to McCain''s.
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by taotxzen July 8, 2008 1:08 PM EDT
Who Will Tell the People?

Standard media fare is dominated by insensitive, egotistical anchors who care more about their image and the ability to deliver one-liners than they do about honest reporting and solid analysis. Hillary supporters railed against what they saw as a misogynistic tilt during the primaries. But that sense of things seemed less noteworthy than the racial undercurrent running just below the surface and occasionally bubbling up. In fact the real problem with media coverage is more general and far more insidious.

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by omega39-2009 July 8, 2008 1:07 PM EDT
Today we spend 3 trillion dollars per month in Iraq. If we end that useless war that McCain and Bush took us into, Obama will pay for his investments. Period.
He is committed in ending the war during his first term. He will not only bring our brothers and sisters home, but he will bring them home alive.

Posted by maramara2

The best thing Obama could do (besides ending the war) is to stop the flow of well paying jobs overseas. When you take a $17/hour job and replace it with a $7/hour job, you are losing the tax revenue and spending power on $10 an hour. That is exactly why this country is in such dire financial shape. Our next president needs to stand up to the multinationals and flatly tell them that if they want to sell in the US they need to build in the US.
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by taotxzen July 8, 2008 1:07 PM EDT

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The glee with which pundits feed on the minutia of politics as if devouring some tidbit of celebrity gossip shows a lack of journalistic gravitas. The Fox News Channel is such a farcical turn on itself it is almost too ridiculous to be taken seriously. Yet a sizeable audience plants itself at the feet of Fox as if its news and views offered something of real value, leaving Fox viewers dangerously misinformed.

But while Fox may field the worst purveyors of intellectually challenged reportage, it isn''t the only example of media intransigence. Sean Hannity may be a shameless McCain advocate, but, if Fox tops the list in terms of bias, other news organizations offer up guests who lean one way or the other but add little substance to the political debate. It''s as if some producer runs around trying to find representatives of every opinion and throws them in front of a camera to provide a range of views, well founded or not.


Pundits like Chris Matthews on MSNBC, feel compelled to tell viewers how smart they are, as in %u2018when I worked for so and so'' or %u2018I''ve been around politics since the beginning of time.'' It isn''t only that Matthews talks over his guests to showcase his vast knowledge of the way things work, it''s his annoying habit of pretending to ask a guest tough questions and then saying at the end "you''re a good guy" or something of the sort, as if to ensure his entrie into whatever sphere of influence that particular guest still commands.

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by taotxzen July 8, 2008 1:06 PM EDT
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And has there ever been anything more disgusting than the neutral treatment accorded Jesse Helms since his death? It may be unseemly to speak ill of the dead but, really, what lifts a master of bigotry and ignoble statesmanship to a place where he can be spoken of without a verbal shudder? And as an example of how screwed up the congressional seniority system can be, Jesse Helms as Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee was about as ludicrous as things get. His fear-mongering about black voter registration in North Carolina and his isolationist and narrow-minded views were an insult to anyone who values this country''s democratic principles.

Disturbingly, Charles Black, who helped Helms craft his racist campaign strategy, is now part of the McCain inner circle. The infamous Helms "white hands" commercial suggesting a white man hadn''t been hired because a "minority" had gotten his job is said to have been inspired by Black. He insisted, however, on the McNeil-Lehrer Newshour (11/5/90) that there was nothing racial about the campaign and that he only "...advised Jesse Helms to do what he''s always done." Well, speaking for one of America''s last great racists, that was probably enough.

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by taotxzen July 8, 2008 1:04 PM EDT
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Media''s peripatetic Pat Buchanan proclaimed Helms one of %u2018the most important conservatives next to Ronald Reagan.'' That is an astonishing statement - - something less than a badge of honor for the former president and a real stretch for Helms. Presumably, conservatives needn''t adhere to the Helms racist approach by curbing minority voter registration or by taking an absolutist, unilateral approach to foreign affairs. Unfortunately, many latter-day conservatives still embrace the same profoundly un-American positions in their quest for political dominance.

MSNBC''S Joe Scarborough traveled a particularly low road last week. Standing in for David Gregory on Race for the White House he told Rachel Madow, when she laughed and said he was "so wrong" about something, that %u2018she had certainly got the "Hillary Clinton cackle" down.'' And these folks wonder why they are often accused of misogynistic attitudes. Considering that regulars Pat Buchanan and Tucker Carlson are never ridiculed when they regularly burst into baffling inane laughter, it was infuriating that Scarborough should demean Madow in such a ham-handed, insulting manner and gather up Hillary Clinton along with her.

Dan Abrams has a segment on his show, Verdict, called "why people hate Washington"; dull-witted loudmouths like Scarborough serve to remind people why they hate the mainstream media.
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by dnsallday July 8, 2008 1:04 PM EDT
While I hate to say this middle America it is us who have to tighten our belts again thanks to the foolishness of the Republican party. We know we are going to have to pay for this mess it is just the way it is.

So stop belly aching and accept the truth once that happens NEVER LET THEM DO IT AGAIN. What is so hard to understand about that.

Posted by antoniof123 at 08:13 AM : Jul 08, 2008
************************************************************Sad, but true. But people will let them do it again. You will see it right here on the blogs, people dont'' think everybody deserves to have healthcare in this richest country in the world, but they got no problem with most of their tax dollars going for Corporate Welfare. The people in power have got their supporters right where they want them.
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by maramara2 July 8, 2008 1:02 PM EDT
Today we spend 3 trillion dollars per month in Iraq. If we end that useless war that McCain and Bush took us into, Obama will pay for his investments. Period.
He is committed in ending the war during his first term. He will not only bring our brothers and sisters home, but he will bring them home alive.
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by maramara2 July 8, 2008 12:58 PM EDT
Cattlekate, You are welcomed. I am an independent who is only being sincere. Nowadays with information technology, only facts rule politics. McBush should know that we have suffered alot from the Bush policies. We are tired of the politics of ranting and falsehood upheld by the Republicans and propagated by the McCain campaign.
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by zerato-2009 July 8, 2008 12:57 PM EDT
Obama has proposed an increase in spending of $1.8 trillion if his promises are to be believed.
Posted by mbcsmith

Let s see your calculations, because mine are a bit different
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by frootloop47 July 8, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
Amen Maramara,
I would love to see a landslide victory.
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by cattlekate July 8, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
Good posts, maramara.
Thanks.
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by maramara2 July 8, 2008 12:47 PM EDT
We hard-working Americans will Vote 100 % for Obama
He is our man. He knows our pain. McBush will only provide 319 Dollars tax cuts. This is less than 3 times that of Obama
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by maramara2 July 8, 2008 12:46 PM EDT
Obama''s Tax cuts will provide more that 1050 USD to us, the middle class and 95 % of Americans
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by mbcsmith July 8, 2008 12:43 PM EDT
Obama has proposed an increase in spending of $1.8 trillion if his promises are to be believed. Since he has flip-flopped on everything from foreign policy to the economy, he might propose another $1.8 trillion this country can''t afford to spend.
NOBAMA, NO experience, NO credibility, NO vote.
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