Comments on: Obama: Feds May Need To Rethink Ethanol

All Candidates Suggest Biofuel Production And Policies Need Retooling As Food Prices Rise

[donbl1]

ubrew, 21 out of 50 Democratic Senators said no. I guess they were the strong ones.........

[ubrew12]

donbl1 said: "the VOTE was bi-lateral with support from Hillary. "

OmiGOD!!! I would have voted for the war to save my political SKIN!!! The choice Republicans offered Congress was YES or NO, when the proper choice was ''ASK ME IN 4 MONTHS''!!! They RUSHED the VOTE to bind Democrats to a policy. They didn''t stop to think, not even for a moment, if this VOTE had larger ramifications than the obvious political ones. Like, ya know, like MAYBE good, ordinary Americans were actually going to be KILLED over this vote.

Honestly, I can forgive Hillary, Obama, WHOEVER, for saving their political skin by voting for this war a year after 9-11, given the publics lynch mood. What I CAN''T forgive, is the Republican schedulers of the vote who, knowing that good ordinary Americans were going to be KILLED (or were going to live) based on the scheduling of the vote, couldn''t resist playing politics with it. THAT IS UNAMERICAN AND UNFORGIVEABLE!!!

[donbl1]

Rowdy, not true on Nafta exporting jobs.

I made several trips to Mexico to review outsourcing in the 90''s and I saw HP, CISCO, Lucent, Dell and many other US companies products being built there in huge numbers.

Mexico has actually declined as they are 3x more expensive than China.....

[barbara08-2009]

JohnShaft4 WASNT IT HILLARY ON THE BOARD FOR WALMART? FOR HOW MANY YEARS AND SHE NEVER ONCE OBJECTED THEN!!!

[rowdytexan2]

WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND AS CBS POINTS IT OUT IT WAS BILL CLINOTN THAT GAVE OUR JOBS FOR NAFTA AND HILLY IN 95 SAYING NAFTA WAS GOOD FOR AMERICA



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Posted by Barbara08 at 07:15 PM : May 04, 2008

Nope, not true. Jobs didn''t export until Dubya.

[donbl1]

Rowdy, Nafta is actually OK since the vast majority of the imbalance comes from enegery purchases from Canada and Mexico.

If you net out the oil, then we are only negative $3.5B on balance of trade which is insignificant.

Now, China and India are a different problem....... those two are leeches on our prosperity.

[rowdytexan2]

ubrew, I agree that the majority of Americans do not want the war.....

However, the VOTE was bi-lateral with support from Hillary.


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Posted by donbl1 at 07:17 PM : May 04, 2008

Along with 529 other legislators.

[rowdytexan2]

Bubba gets credit for getting NAFTA ratified in 1993.


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Posted by donbl1 at 07:15 PM : May 04, 2008

Yeah, he did, because he believed in exporting goods, which is actually good for this country. Too bad Poppa Bush''s cooked statistics on NAFTA did not bring in the jobs it was purported to.

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by Barbara08 at 07:12 PM : May 04, 2008

And?

[donbl1]

ubrew, I agree that the majority of Americans do not want the war.....

However, the VOTE was bi-lateral with support from Hillary.

[barbara08-2009]

WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND AS CBS POINTS IT OUT IT WAS BILL CLINOTN THAT GAVE OUR JOBS FOR NAFTA AND HILLY IN 95 SAYING NAFTA WAS GOOD FOR AMERICA

[ubrew12]

donbl1 said: "Iraq is a shared responsibility"

Most Americans don''t see it that way. We were there when the Administration threatened us with a ''mushroom cloud'' if we didn''t tow the line. We were there when Republicans rigged the war vote to fall BEFORE a national election (a year after 9-11), so that, for example, one democratic senator was thrown out of office for voting against it, despite having left three of his limbs on the battlefields of Vietnam.

If this country can''t listen to someone who''s given three of his limbs for our LAST patriotic clusterfvck of a foreign engagement, we deserve the clusterfvck we''ve gotten outselves into.

Republicans KNEW what they were doing when they scheduled that vote. They were fvcking America...

[donbl1]

Rowdy, from Wiki,

"NAFTA was initially pursued by politicians in the United States and Canada supportive of free trade, led by Canadian Prime Minister Brian Musumara, U.S. President George H. W. Bush, and the Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari. The three countries signed NAFTA in December 1992, subject to ratification by the legislatures of the three countries. There was considerable opposition in all three countries. In the United States, NAFTA was able to secure passage after Bill Clinton made its passage a major legislative priority in 1993. Since the agreement had been signed by Bush under his fast-track prerogative, Clinton did not alter the original agreement, but complemented it with the aforementioned NAAEC and NAALC. After intense political debate and the negotiation of these side agreements, the U.S. House of Representatives passed NAFTA on November 17, 1993, by 234-200 vote (132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voting in favor; 43 Republicans, 156 Democrats, and 1 independent against),[7] and the U.S. Senate passed it on the last day of its 1993 session, November 20, 1993, by 61-38 vote (34 Republicans and 27 Democrats voting in favor; 10 Republicans and 28 Democrats against, with 1 Democrat opponent not voting -- Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND), an ardent foe of NAFTA, missed the vote because of an illness in his family).[8]"

Bubba gets credit for getting NAFTA ratified in 1993.

[barbara08-2009]

"""Mr. Clinton has vowed to continue raising money for his foundation if Mrs. Clinton is elected president, maintaining his connections with a wide network of philanthropic partners.""""


You see no matter how you stack it up bill will still do what you all claim Obama has done!! EVEN IF SHE IS ELECTEDmaintaining his connections with a wide network of philanthropic partners

[barbara08-2009]

Just months after the Kazakh pact was finalized, Mr. Clinton%u2019s charitable foundation received its own windfall: a $31.3 million donation from Mr. Giustra that had remained a secret until he acknowledged it last month. The gift, combined with Mr. Giustra%u2019s more recent and public pledge to give the William J. Clinton Foundation an additional $100 million, secured Mr. Giustra a place in Mr. Clinton%u2019s inner circle, an exclusive club of wealthy entrepreneurs in which friendship with the former president has its privileges.

After The Times told Mr. Giustra that others said he had discussed the deal with Mr. Nazarbayev, Mr. Giustra responded that he %u201Cmay well have mentioned my general interest in the Kazakhstan mining business to him, but I did not discuss the ongoing%u201D efforts.

As Mrs. Clinton%u2019s presidential campaign has intensified, Mr. Clinton has begun severing financial ties with Ronald W. Burkle, the supermarket magnate, and Vinod Gupta, the chairman of InfoUSA, to avoid any conflicts of interest. Those two men have harnessed the former president%u2019s clout to expand their businesses while making the Clintons rich through partnership and consulting arrangements.

[barbara08-2009]

Late on Sept. 6, 2005, a private plane carrying the Canadian mining financier Frank Giustra touched down in Almaty, a ruggedly picturesque city in southeast Kazakhstan. Several hundred miles to the west a fortune awaited: highly coveted deposits of uranium that could fuel nuclear reactors around the world. And Mr. Giustra was in hot pursuit of an exclusive deal to tap them. Mr. Nazarbayev walked away from the table with a propaganda coup, after Mr. Clinton expressed enthusiastic support for the Kazakh leader%u2019s bid to head an international organization that monitors elections and supports democracy. Mr. Clinton%u2019s public declaration undercut both American foreign policy and sharp criticism of Kazakhstan%u2019s poor human rights record by, among others, Mr. Clinton%u2019s wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

Within two days, corporate records show that Mr. Giustra also came up a winner when his company signed preliminary agreements giving it the right to buy into three uranium projects controlled by Kazakhstan%u2019s state-owned uranium agency, Kazatomprom.

The monster deal stunned the mining industry, turning an unknown shell company into one of the world%u2019s largest uranium producers in a transaction ultimately worth tens of millions of dollars to Mr. Giustra, analysts said.

[rowdytexan2]

RowdyTexan2 LMAO in a call center that also sends half it''''s jobs to the Philippines anywhere but for American Jobs.... Thank Hillary and Billy for Nafta


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Posted by Barbara08 at 07:05 PM : May 04, 2008

No, my call center is right here in Texas, across the street in our office building.

Actually you need to thank Poppa Bush for NAFTA, it was already negotiated and ratfied in congress when Bill took office. Bill believed in trading goods, not exporting jobs and he had the lowest rate of unemployment in decades. It was Dubya that started exporting jobs, not Clinton.

[donbl1]

ubrew, ethanol and the incessant political stunts to get their faces on the news.

[ubrew12]

donbl1 said: "what will we remember from this Democratic Congress? Ethanol??????"
I suppose that''s what you''ll remember...

[nothappyatall]

"We have rising food prices around the United States. In other countries, we''re seeing riots because of the lack of food supply, so this is something we''re going to have to deal with," he said."

We are NOT responsible for feeding the planet with OUR food, it''s the ones who have the highest CASH OFFER who buys the grain and commodities in the market that gets it.
If timbucktoo cant afford our grain, but Canada can ans is will to pay the price on the open market, TOO BAD for timbucktoo.