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by crtoo May 3, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
Learn more about who is Obama. From Harpers Magazine, The birth of a Washington machine by Ken Silverstein.

Ethanol (E85)???? The great corn moguls make a fortune and cause a global food shortage???

%u201C %u2026Obama touts as %u201Ca clean, renewable, and domestically produced alternative fuel.%u201D%u2026 Obama had essentially marshaled his twenty minutes of undeniably moving oratory to plump for the classic pork-barrel cause of every Midwestern politician.%u201D

%u2026%u2019 Grateful representatives of big-money interests were on hand as well, in the form of officials from the Illinois Soybean Association and the Illinois Corn Growers Association%u2026

%u2019 the %u201CObama Amendment%u201D that offered oil companies a 50 percent tax credit for building stations that offer E85 fuel%u2014and voted for the corporate-welfare-laden 2005 energy bill, which offered billions in subsidies to ethanol producers as well as lavish incentives for developing cars that run on alternative fuels.%u201D check the next one.
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by May 3, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
Talk about pandering, Obama said in Indiana that if we stop the Iraq war the billions of dollars that the war is costing us can be spent in Indiana. How about his Rev Wright flip-flop. I can not disown Rev Wright any more than I can disown my White Grandmother. When Rev Wright criticizing America it is ok, but not when he criticizing Obama for being a regular politician.
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by philly1550 May 3, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
The most important questionS still remains. (1)Why does Barack Obama belong to a church known to be a leader in a seemingly radical, black-centric, movement known as black liberation theology? (2)How will Mr. Obama''''s association with this movement influence his beliefs, ideas, and actions as president of the United States? ---i THINK THIS IS REASONABLE TO ASK OF A ANY PRESIDENT. (3) Does Mr. Obama know the principles, values and teachings of black liberation theology---the foundation of his church? THREE QUESTIONS THAT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN WILL NOT ANSWER. WHY-WHY-WHY-WHY-WHY


Posted by max0010 at 10:17 AM : May 03, 2008


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by philly1550 May 3, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
LET''''''''S SEE...

GUAM VOTES COUNT.....BUT TRUE AMERICANS IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN...THEIR VOTES DO NOT COUNT.

WHAT A DISGRACE!

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by crtoo May 3, 2008 3:54 PM EDT
Senator Obama has built an impressive coalition of support, all on his own.Posted by zoroeltoro at 09:08 AM : May 03, 2008

WHAT????
Jessie Jackson has no money or following?
NAACP has no money or following?
The Black Liberation Churches have no money or following?

Nadhmi Auchi lent him millions????

ndustry titans ..raise a towering $25 million in the first three months of this year.

Robinson Steel Co. chairman and his wife after her first donation have since given nearly $32,000 to political committees that directly supported Obama.
Collected $25,000 apiece from donors such as Hawaii supermarket heiress Colleen Sullivan and now-deceased Lands'' End clothing store founder Gary Comer.

But his U.S. Senate campaign raised at least $1.2 million of its $15 million total from special-interest PACs, according to fundraising tracker PoliticalMoneyLine.com. And in January 2005, 20 days after he was sworn into the U.S. Senate, Obama launched his own PAC, Hopefund, which raised $4.4 million over two years, making it one of the largest PACs members of Congress have established to fund other candidates.

And dont forget the "help" from Rezco and his wife.

PARTS OF THESE FIGURES ARE FROM THE Chicago Tribune and Jihadchat.

How do you define "all on his own"?????
If you have BIG MONEY behind you is that okay?
If you have Political Action groups behind you is that Okay?

GET REAL..........



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by vmcneal2 May 3, 2008 3:49 PM EDT
"SO"
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by vmcneal2 May 3, 2008 2:46 PM EDT
"My friends, I will have an energy policy that we will be talking about, which will eliminate our dependence on oil from the Middle East that will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East," McCain said. May 2, 2008

McCain said what educated people already knew. Iraq is all about oil. GOD *** Bush/Cheney. McCain is not as evil as Bush/Cheney but he is not the guy to end the Iraq war.

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by vmcneal2 May 3, 2008 2:22 PM EDT
And anything the cheep gold plated slum lord lawyer
chicago politician Obama has to say come''''s out his A$$


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Posted by popstom1 at 09:04 AM : May 03, 2008

Obama would never come up with anthing as stupid as McCains, Health Care Plan or that gas tax gimmick. McCain is the one talking out of his azz.
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by crtoo May 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
Pardon me, if the oil companies do not explore for more oil - that is extortion!
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by crtoo May 3, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
This info is taken from EXXON MOBILE WEB SITE - TODAY.

"...Spending on capital and exploration projects was $5.5 billion in the first quarter ExxonMobil''s ..." -

-----Now correct me if I am wrong, but NET INCOME comes after capital and exploration projects.----


"...first quarter net income was a record $10,890 million, up 17% from the first quarter of 2007 ,,,"

So even after exploration they still manage to net MILLIONS IN PROFITS EACH QUARTER. This is only from Exxon, there are other companies out there.

So dont be fooled that taking back subsidies or toping their profits will mean no more exploration. That is pure hogwash from the fear mongers.
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by crtoo May 3, 2008 1:21 PM EDT
Does Mr. Obama know the principles, values and teachings of black liberation theology---the foundation of his church?

YOU CAN NOT MAKE IT THROUGH COLLEGE AND WORK IN CHICAGO AND WRITE BOOKS ABOUT MALCOLM X and NOT know the foundation of the Black Liberation theology.

IT IS PART OF HISTORY OF THE USA, it is part of BLACK HISTORY in black communities. IT IS THE FOUNDATION of the Trinity Church.

Get real - DOES HE KNOW???? DID HE KNOW????

You still wonder?????
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by crtoo May 3, 2008 1:18 PM EDT
PANDERING????????

lISTEN TO OBAMA.

He comes from a low income family? So how did his poor family send him to the ELITE PUNAHOE school????

He idolizes the works of Malcolm X who started the Hate Mantras of Rev. Wright.?????

Now after 20 years he sees Rv. Wright as someone different????

MALCOLM X AND REV. WRIGHT DATE BACK TO THE 1960''S.

The Rev. did NOT just come out of the closet. So appeasing (pandering) the public on the issue now?????

IF OBAMA really thinks he is a different kind of candidate - yea, he is. He is someone that harbors the same ideology of Rev. Wright and Malcolm X.

He PANDERS with every word that comes out of his mouth.

He is elitist, when he says any assistance is to little.

He is a pie in the sky if he thinks he can control gas prices when CHINA AND INDIA demand 30 times more than the USA.

DREAM ON FOLKS, and dont cry when the bubble busts.

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by max0010 May 3, 2008 1:17 PM EDT
The most important questionS still remains. (1)Why does Barack Obama belong to a church known to be a leader in a seemingly radical, black-centric, movement known as black liberation theology? (2)How will Mr. Obama''s association with this movement influence his beliefs, ideas, and actions as president of the United States? ---i THINK THIS IS REASONABLE TO ASK OF A ANY PRESIDENT. (3) Does Mr. Obama know the principles, values and teachings of black liberation theology---the foundation of his church? THREE QUESTIONS THAT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN WILL NOT ANSWER. WHY-WHY-WHY-WHY-WHY
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by imotorist May 3, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
This truckers situation is solved. Every time he needs his gas tank filled, Hillary will be there.
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by crtoo May 3, 2008 1:09 PM EDT
I WANT SOMEONE WHO WILL GIVE ME MONEY BACK, SAVINGS, INCENTIVES, ETC.

I DO NOT WANT SOMEONE WHO SAYS NO, NO, NO, CUZ IT IS NOT ENOUGH.

If we wait for enough, guess what - You and I will be in our graves.
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by crtoo May 3, 2008 1:07 PM EDT
Obama, typically is telling the public that a few cents here and there means nothing. Just like the tax rebate means nothing.

Well, to all of you who agree with him. "A bird in the hand ....". DONT TAKE THE TAX REBATE, SEND IT BACK.

Yes these are just appeasements to the public! SO WHAT.

It is an immediate answer to a problem that will take years to solve.
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So you nay sayers prefer to get nothing, to get no assistance? BULLLLLL LONEY.

You will love the fact that you save about $5 per tank. If you drive or plan to vacation that will add up and gotta say it is a nice gesture.

So what if it amounts to a bag of beans - it is better than zero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least someone is doing SOMETHING.

Hillary is just one of MANY for this act.

SO SAY NAY - Go fill your tanks and reserves now and dont take the savings come summer time. You dont have to take what the governemnt gives you, if you really are agaisnt it - DONT TAKE IT.
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by zoroeltoro May 3, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
Senator Obama has built an impressive coalition of support, all on his own.

He has run a brilliantly organized and inspiring campaign. For all of the candidates, this is the largest "administration" that any of them has controlled. Barack Obama gets an "A" .

He has shown character and Presidential leadership in his handling of the pastor controversy.

He has distinguished himself time and time again as not being the typical Washington insider, most recently with his refusal to peddle this "Gas Holiday" tax plan to voters.

Most importantly, he has shown that he is an excellent learner. This is something that America badly needs. Most of our current problems have come because previous presidents have had a "my way or the highway" mentality.
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by popstom1 May 3, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
And anything the cheep gold plated slum lord lawyer
chicago politician Obama has to say come''s out his A$$
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by zesty45 May 3, 2008 12:02 PM EDT
The problem as I see with the suspension of the gas tax is that , that tax is fixed and amount to nothing if the price of gas keep on rising. assuming that you suspend the tax but the price of crude oil keeping on rising, that will definately negate the suppose impact of the tax suspention. My approach is stop buying and stocking the strategic oil reversed and even release some of the stock in the reserve, that will force the oil price to go down. That will also force the speculators of the oil market to back off, as it will not be lucratice to speculate on oil.
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by crater7 May 3, 2008 11:16 AM EDT
ambitus; fact is you acn"t believe anything HRC says:

HMMMMM, ARE YOU SAYING YOU CAN BELIEVE WHAT OBAMA SAY''S?

DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT OBAMA HAS NOT LIED IN THIS CAMPAIGN?

GOD "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT "G D" AMERICA.
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