Comments on: Clinton: "Tide Is Turning" After Pa. Win

N.Y. Senator Gets Crucial Victory In Keystone State; Race Moves On To Indiana, North Carolina

[jntlw-2009]

Is the tide turning or did she just turn my stomach? I think it was the latter.

[far_point200]

Dang, not enough chocolate in Pennsylvania for Obama, just chocolate chip.

It will be a rocky road here on out!

As I write this, Obama''s is contemplating
his beloved Rev. Wright''s words in his favorite sermon, "G.D. America!"

[lindaredtail]

I agree 100% that people have the right to question and they should. I''m one of those people who questions everything and in particular the status quo.I want fact, figures, information and then I want to know how it applies, and if it is reasonable to apply it to the situation at hand. People should be questioning all three candidates. Right now McCain is getting a free pass. Did he know that one of his aides was lobbying for Airbus? And the Nixon question when did he know it. As he''s stomping the country saying towns can come back one of his aides helped cost thousands of American jobs. All I''m saying is reason, knowledge, and careful study are important right now. How many of you would like the idea of a third war with Iran. In some circles that possibility is discussed all the time and many of those people are McCain supporters. It''s going to come down to what we want and where we want this country to go.

[lindaredtail]

I''ve read two stories Broncfan that they are pretty tight. I don''t always believe any more what she says. Not after the dodging sniperfire lie. I''m looking at independant stuff. And Scaife seems to believe that they can all have dinner together. Time will tell if we continue to see him as part of her campaign. It is interesting because as he''s helping her another big issue involving conservatives that he abhors is going on in New York State and several other states and this morning CBN was looking for people to fund an effort to reverse it. So why is Scaife with Clinton when there is such a big thing going on and he has the bucks to oppose it? It''s a difficult subject to discuss here because it could be offensive to some.So what is he up to, and why is she allowing it?

[thgdriver]

Nobama is a proven two faced hypocritical liar!!

When the nappy hoe incident with Imus was headlines Nobama lined right up with Jackson and Sharpton and wanted a rope around Imus neck stating, "theres no room in America for that kind of talk, he should be fired".

Then you find out he has been listening to the same hatred spewed at his church for 20 long years!!

That makes him a two faced Hypocrite!!

Then he lied his butt off saying he did not know.

That make him a proven two faced hypocrite and liar!

But you keep right on supporting him. You Dimwitocrats deserve the government you get!

[abbe91]

"People have the right to question a person who will be their next leader. If more would have done that with the current president, look at the mess we would have avoided.
Posted by broncfan1661 at 12:52 PM : Apr 23, 2008"

Don''t you believe that the real mess is coming from the VP, behind the scenes ? It''s not just one man.

[broncfan1661]

When someone has a message of change people are afraid. Afraid of the unknown. A lot of the stuff said about Barack Obama is just spin and really has no legitimate basis. Some stuff we are right to question just as I question stuff concerning Hillary and John
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People have the right to question a person who will be their next leader. If more would have done that with the current president, look at the mess we would have avoided.

[lindaredtail]

Just as an example someone quoted a line the other day about "inbred Muslims". So I went and found the story. It was on the BBC. There I discovered it was not this huge problem as the poster was totally exaggerating it to be. It was a small less than 5% of people who went to Great Britian from a rural area of Pakistan who were less than 2% of the British Moslem population. I pointed out that there are inbred Christian communities in the U.S. I live about 20 miles from one. Some of their members even have visible physical defects caused by it. Spin is not productive. Be smart. Everyone can study. Make up your own minds. Good conversation broncfan!

[thgdriver]

Let''s see, whats more dangerous??

1-- Being in business with the Clintoons like Foster was?

2--Being a star and have an affair with a president and his brother?

3--Riding in a car in Chappaquiddick or anyplace else with Teddy K?

Answer?

All of the above!

[broncfan1661]

And Hillary is not innocent. Scaife was one of those people who promoted the idea that she practically handed Vince Foster the gun so he could shoot himself. Yet now he is one of her biggest buds.
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She said in an interview with Keith Obierman that she was totally surprised by that indorsement and she did not exactly embrace him. He is NOT one of her "buds".

[lindaredtail]

People have a tendency to like the status quo. Especially when it benefits them. There''s an old saying (showing my age now) that people have a habit of killing a person who comes along with a new version of the truth, or one they don''t want to hear. In a lot of ways the "old politics" benefit Hillary Clinton and John McCain. When someone has a message of change people are afraid. Afraid of the unknown. A lot of the stuff said about Barack Obama is just spin and really has no legitimate basis. Some stuff we are right to question just as I question stuff concerning Hillary and John. But we should not allow ourselves to be hostages to fear either. Everyone needs to do their own research. It''s always good to look at things like the BBC. Sources that are on the outside looking in tend to be more objective than those subject to emotion.

[broncfan1661]

lindaredtail,
I will admit that he is intelligent. And I don''t really believe a lot of the *** that is said either. But the fact remains that he is totally unproven and has no track record. That is why people are using the only things that are known about him to form their opinions.
And the things that are known are not exactly pretty.

[thgdriver]

The problem with you Nobama supporters is you have had blinders on far too long. You are learning on a daily basis what his dark background was and still is. You all better take those blinders off before it''s too late. By November, if the Dimwitocrats trot him out as their candidate McCain will clean his clock for sure.

You all knew what the Klintoons brought to the table. Love them, hate them or in between someplace what you knew about them was what you get. Hillary is holding her own against an overwhelming black vote that is going to Nobama for no other reason but his dad was black. Geraldine Ferraro was right--Nobama who?

Go McCain!!!

[omega39-2009]

Goodbye Nobama!

Posted by thgdriver

Really?? The money continues to pour in for Obama at a rate that surpasses Clinton and McCain combined. Open secrets says 99% is from individual contributors of less than $200 dollars. Is this all coming from blacks or do you suspect he might have a couple of white middle class supporters?

[lindaredtail]

And Hillary is not innocent. Scaife was one of those people who promoted the idea that she practically handed Vince Foster the gun so he could shoot himself. Yet now he is one of her biggest buds. I wouldn''t let someone who had done that to me in the same building where I was. Never mind accept his money and advice. Not in a million years. What does that say about her and her character? Nothing good that''s for certain.

[lindaredtail]

Posted by broncfan
Now no I don''t think you''re right. I think a lot of this is just the politics of personal destruction and I do not believe everything I read. I do research. Such as he is not a Muslim. He did not attend a madrassa. His mother was a journalist and socio-anthropologist. Typically people in those careers travel to study other cultures. It wasn''t just about her marriage. She had a career and was an extremely educated woman. All the while that they were there should she have kept him out of school? The dress he wore in Ghana was tribal dress not Moslem dress. It was typical of tribesman. I study things as well we all should. The spin machine is just that the spin machine. I didn''t believe a lot of the things the spin machine accused Hillary of when she was first lady either.

[broncfan1661]

Posted by ddhinnyc at 11:37 AM : Apr 23, 2008
Then why in the last debate did Hillary say, "yes, yes, yes" when asked whether Obama could be McCain? Yet another LIE excused by Klintoon Kool-Aid drinkers.
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Because if she had said "No,No,No" the pundits and Obama''s campaign would be chastising her for using negativity.
By the way: I drink beer and whisky.

[thgdriver]

I said Nobama was going to get his clock cleaned in Penna. I was right.

When you consider the enormous black vote in Penna. Especially Philadelphia. You know, the blacks that are voting for Nobama for no other reason then the fact his father was black. For Hillary to beat his butt by 10 points is a true triumph.

People of all races are now seeing Nobama for the empty suit he is. I have a lot of contacts in some states he won. Quite a few told me that had they to do it over, know about him what they do now, they would not vote for him.

Goodbye Nobama!

[lindaredtail]

I think broncfan is right. The Dems seem to be holding off but I saw a piece the other day where they are still asking for the memos. I don''t think anything will go very far as long as Bush can block stuff with executive privaledge.

[broncfan1661]

Posted by lindaredtail at 11:49 AM : Apr 23, 2008
Certain groups in the Democratic party are succeeding in destroying Barack Obama. But the question is what purpose does it really serve? Does it serve the Democrats or the Republicans? Right now I think it serves the Republican cause.
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Could it ever occur to you Obama people that America is finally waking up to the fact that your hero is NOT the best person to represent them? There are more people trying to destroy Hillary by far.