Comments on: Clinton, Obama Collide In Tense Debate

Both Candidates Say Rival Could Beat McCain In November

[tbweb]

Posted by cbville72 at 10:45 PM : Apr 17, 2008,,,

Here is something for you to keep in mind. This is the first election I am aware of where a political candidate is attacked this ferociously via a third person who they are in no way responsible for! Unable to find anything significant to attack Sen. Obama on personally, a proxy is being used in the case of Rev. Wright as a substitute! Sen. Clinton won the debate last night and looked good because the former Clinton administration Staff Aid George Stephanopolous prepared her and gave her all the debate questions in advance, it was like having all the answers to a test prior to taking the test, only a few were fooled by this! If Rev. Wright is fair game against Sen. Obama, lying, womanizing, adulterer, DNA spraying Bill Clinton is fair game as well and why is she still with him? The bad judgment is associations knife cuts both ways.

[popstom1]

hey obama if you can''t stand the heat get out

[cbville72]

Posted by thweb

And here''s some thoughts that come to mind as well. It seems to me that most liberals cry "separation of church and state" two minutes after they are born. With that in mind and how we are all reminded of these liberal views every Christmas, I find it intriquing that Mr. Barack Hussein Obama would go to the same church for 20 years and keep close ties to a minister who weaves political views and political hatred of the US into his SERMONS at a MASS! How is that separation? Who wants to go to a mass and hear POLITICAL slant in a SPIRITUAL ceremony?
The pastor spewing hate and racism in the MIDDLE OF A MASS.
"******* AMERICA!" in the midlde of a MASS.

And people like you are surprised that he actually got asked about that repeatedly? What is wrong with you? He has had a 6 month honeymoon with the media and has gotten a free pass with stories of people "fainting" in his events.

The funny thing about dreamers are they eventually have to wake up and go to work. B. Hussein Obama...time to wake up! Unfortunately for you, you''''ll be working in the Senate next year. The honeymoons over boy.

Thank You

[tbweb]

If Obama couldn''t handle last night very well (which he didn''t), how is he going to fend off the Republican slime machine.

Posted by hinnis at 07:12 PM : Apr 17, 2008,,,

Sen. Obama like the rest of us thought he was attending a Debate last night, not a political hit-job, not a political ambush orchestrated by a former top level Clinton adviser, and current Clinton supporter George Stephanopolous! No way that wasn''t a conflict of interest, a political setup. Everyone saw through it! Even the Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell said he was disappointed at ABC in that the first real question Voters care about wasn''t asked until an hour later. ABC, Stephanopolous and Gibson now have a serious credibility problem which is bad being in the News business. Brian Williams is the new "credible" King of nightly News!

[mike91953]

Either Clinton and Obama start wearing flag pins otherwise I am not voting for either of them. I am a stupid American and that is all that is important to me. The war isn''t important. And the economic destruction of this country isn''t important. Nor is all of the corruption. Only flag pins are important!!!

[hinnis]

We are fooling ourselves if we believe that Obama didn''t know how Wright felt about the issues. He has referred to Wright as his "mentor and spiritual adviser." He went to the church for 20 years. The church preaches black liberation theology, which is based upon the struggle between the "white oppressor" and the "black oppressed." Here are a few quotes from the architect of black liberation theology, James Cone, and you be the judge as to whether or not Obama''s church is racist:
(1) %u201CTo be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) %u201CBlack theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community %u2026 Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.%u201D

[waqahi]

Here is a suggestion so revolutionary that it would solve the faith of Zionists and will put a stop to the periodic and systematic destruction of the lands of Mohammad by the US.

For the year of 2008 and 2009 the pentagon should cut its expenses by a half (only for these two years). The savings is a staggering half a trillion dollars ($500,000,000,000.00) that should be given entirely to the Jewish settlers of the Zionist entity so they can relocate to live with the people who REALLY love them. A family of five will receive half a million dollars; think of how much such a solution will help the real estate industry in the USA.

This is the best you will ever hear because what is coming is so devastating it will give no one a chance to help in an orderly fashion.

[obama8years]

If Barack Obama didn%u2019t know about Abunimah%u2019s writings (and Abunimah says he did), the same as his claims of being unaware of Reverend Wright%u2019s remarks after 20 years, then Obama is not competent to be our President. Abunimah likes to lie and claim Al Awda has nothing to do with the ISM or Electronic Intifada, though plenty of evidence exists on the website the homepage at www.StoptheISM.com showing the contrary.

But Obama%u2019s association with the ISM through his church and lobbying in Chicago goes even deeper than just his past links to Al Awda and Ali Abunimah. His pastor, Jeremiah Wright, and the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, are both equally involved with the ISM.

[hinnis]

joeshields: Your donation will augment those of many:
HOW OBAMA HAS USED GEORGE BUSH/KARL ROVE TACTICS TO OBTAIN OVER $62,000,000 FOR HIS CAMPAIGN, SO FAR!:
The Washington Post -- April 11,2008 -- Obama gets plenty of money from big donors too: "Sen. Barack Obama credits his presidential campaign with creating a ''parallel public financing system'' built on a wave of modest donations from homemakers and high school teachers. ... But those with wealth and power also have played a critical role in creating Obama''s record-breaking fundraising machine, and their generosity has earned them a prominent voice in shaping his campaign. Seventy-nine ''bundlers,'' five of them billionaires, have tapped their personal networks to raise at least $200,000 each. ... Donors who have given more than $200 account for about half of Obama''s total haul, which stands at nearly $240 million. ... The bundler list also sheds light on those who might seek to influence an Obama White House. They have helped the campaign recruit more than 27,000 donors to write checks for $2,300, the maximum allowed. Donors who have given more than $200 account for about half of Obama''s total haul, which stands at nearly $240 million. The use of bundlers was perfected by George W. Bush, who in 2000 and 2004 set some fundraising records that Obama has shattered.
http://tinyurl.com/6dtgq6

[obama8years]

Go Read the article "Bad Company of Barack" click opinion.

Obama Supports ISM

canadafreepress.com/index.php/ article/2462

The question is if we want a man in the White House who will regularly give his ear to the likes of a Reverend Wright, his and Sabeel%u2019s replacement theologies, and pro-terrorist propagandists like Ali Abunimah on a regular basis? In one sense, Obama could be considered the ISM%u2019s Manchurian candidate given his wide connections to ISM activists and campaign movements such as the Wheels of Justice Tour, Joseph Carr a.k.a. Joseph Smith, Hannah Mermelstein, Anna Baltzer and others.

[joeshields56]

The old established political machines here in Pennsylvania are really getting nervous. They used to control things... now through Obama, we are regaining control of our country. I just made another donation to Obama. YES WE CAN!!

[popstom1]

You forgot Rev.Wright new saying
The founding fathers planted White Supremacy
In the DNA of America right?

[hinnis]

WAS IT FAIR TO QUESTION OBAMA ABOUT REV. WRIGHT IN THE DEBATE? WELL, HOW ABOUT THIS QUESTION TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS: If Hillary Clinton had been going to a "white centered" church for 20 years; the fundamental theology of the church was one of white versus black; the pastor of the church often made racist remarks against blacks, and blamed all of society%u2019s ills on black people; the pastor of the church gave David Duke a lifetime achievement award; the church supported the terrorist group, Hamas; and Hillary considered this pastor her "mentor and spiritual adviser"; would you give her the pass that you are giving Obama. Would you be enraged that a moderator in the debates would ask her a question about this affiliation? I doubt most Obama supporters could answer this question honestly, so I''ll tell you what would happen if Hillary Clinton had the same sort of relationship in reverse: The righteous indignation of Obama and the media would rise up, the demand would be made that Hillary withdraw from the nomination process immediately, and Hillary''s political career would be over, period.

[popstom1]

Good kansas at least won,t be student driver

[hinnis]

I presume Hillary''s wish is to become President of the United States in order to address all of the problems left to us by the Bush Administration. A secondary goal, I imagine, is to save the American public from perhaps the most deceptive and fraudulent candidate since George Bush himself. Both goals are admirable.

[kstar42]

Hillary is going to get her wish. She is going to keep Obama out of the Whitehouse and make sure John McCain moves in.


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Posted by kansas1946 at 09:12 PM : Apr 17, 2008

Hmmmm I don''t by that! best would be for both to be on the ticket and then the Obama wave would shut up!

[kansas1946]

Hillary is going to get her wish. She is going to keep Obama out of the Whitehouse and make sure John McCain moves in.

[cbville72]

these thoughts came to mind.


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Posted by fyneberg at 08:14 PM : Apr 17, 2008

And here''s some thoughts that come to mind as well. It seems to me that most liberals cry "separation of church and state" two minutes after they are born. With that in mind and how we are all reminded of these liberal views every Christmas, I find it intriquing that Mr. Barack Hussein Obama would go to the same church for 20 years and keep close ties to a minister who weaves political views and political hatred of the US into his SERMONS at a MASS! How is that separation? Who wants to go to a mass and hear POLITICAL slant in a SPIRITUAL ceremony.
SOMEONE WHO HOLDS THE SAME VIEWS THAT''S WHO.

The funny thing about dreamers are they eventually have to wake up and go to work. B. Hussein Obama...time to wake up! Unfortunately for you, you''ll be working in the Senate next year.

Thank You

[rowdytexan2]

Do associations matter in politics? It is a basic rule of networking that they do. And their political views always come into account when we a politician makes these %u201Cacquaintances%u201D, since these will define the method and process in which you acquire said power (in his case is radical liberalism and %u201Clefty%u201D politics). Obviously, this can be easily understood when we observe how one individual supports one candidate over another (by funding their organizations, etc.). We must also understand that William C. Ayers, who was made famous yesterday because of ABC%u2019s push of the story into the mainstream, has OPENLY stated that the best method of effecting %u201Creal change%u201D in the United States is by %u201Ckilling all the rich White people%u201D. Bill Ayers OWN connection to Arab terrorism and the PLO are well established, in addition to his association to Khalidi himself, and cannot be %u201Cswept under the rug%u201D as obscure philosophies which Obama %u201Chas never heard about%u201D. (If Obama is this incompetent in choosing his friends out of %u201Cinnocent ignorance%u201D about their character, then he is obviously NOT FIT to be President of the United States!)...April 17th, 2008 J Cifre, J.D.

[speakinup]

Regrettably, the democratic party continues to self destruct. I believe in the two party system to keep things on an even keel, but if the Dems keep this up, well let''s just say it hasn''t been pretty.