Comments on: Obama Defends Comments On "Bitter" Voters

Candidate Says Working-Class Voters Have Given Up On Economic Help From Washington

[brianbwb-2009]

Posted by gorgeousm

You show your disrespect to a person that you don''t know personally, twisting his name into a form which you yourself would not accept, your lack of basic common courtesy is not only a mark of a deficient upbringing, but an example of how the racists are so afraid to simply be what they are that they hide their racism behind coded words and tactics.

A man''s middle name has no bearing on the real issues of two false, economically and morally bankrupting wars, the slide of the dollar, the obsolete and crumbling infrastructure, and the continuing efforts of regressives like yourself to take the country back to an earlier and more inhumane century.

I can understand your fear of Mr. Obama, he represents the end of America as your small klan wants it to be.

[memerider]

We will end up having to elect one of these jokers. At least we should hold their feet to the fire and make them wake up and pay attention to more than just partisan positions on issues.

I want to hear them talk to We the People in ways that show us they have done the deep research into the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the concerns of our founders--not just use the latest marketing techniques to convince people to adopt partisan platforms.

I''m sick of hearing empty slogans like "change we can believe in" and flippant remarks that poke fun at people who are honestly concerned about their first and second amendment rights.

Mr. Obama, you may win the presidency with feel-good speeches and explaining away your biases--Jimmy Carter did that--but you will still have to earn the respect of the American citizens.

[countryjoe8]

Hillary, if we are not bitter, are we happy?

Obama seems to be the only one of you that I actually in touch with reality here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9PepjyDow

We are bitter and mad as hell too!!!

[brianbwb-2009]

"...I have not yet seen anyone up to that challenge." Posted by obama8years

"You asked.

America has proven over its entire history, until today, and all signs point into what tomorrow we may have, that "White" America will never accept "Black" America as humans deserving equal regard as the "Whites". Many of the posts here are glaring examples of the truth of this.

Given this fact;

There are some who posit that the only way out of this dilemma is to isolate ourselves from those who will not accept us, and increase and improve ties with people with whom we can trade, Africa. This is a logical response to the hatred we still continue to experience.

Others posit that the fight must be waged in America, and such people must be defeated. I personally don''''t believe this can succeed, the lessons being learned this day in Iraq show that that would be an eternal struggle, as "Whites" will never conquer their nature.

Still others wish that we should simply accept our status an a permanent underclass, "get over it" being the phrase most often used. They posit that we should not challenge the status quo, we should not work for change, just accept being the victims of American apartheid.

For me, numbers two and three are not options."

Hey Ob8y, you never got back with any answers, what''s up? 108 pages, and so far nada...

What solutions would you propose, given that we will never accept the status quo?

[tryhonesty]

Come on America, you are smarter than the media? Or are you? Since some of you voted for Bush, I am worried that some of you have no brain at all. Let us gear up, use our brain, and not let the moron RepubliCON media do their propaganda. I am BITTER that I have had to put up with camel jockies in the White House for the last 7 years. Bush and Chenney, the RepubliCON GOP Greedy OLD Party circus selling out America to Saudia Arabia and China. But, I get to kick a little *** this fall! Do your part and Vote the RepubliCONs OUT of office! 1-20-09, let''s get to work people!

[gorgeousm]

This Hussein Obama has already become a tremendous divisive influence in our country. Since he apparently has so many connections with such unsavory, hateful, anti-White, anti-America, Moslems and sympathizers of these individuals'' and organizations'' beliefs, then he should exposed and shunned.

It seems to be getting to the point where Obama will falter and fail in his attempts to explain away the seriousness of his anti-America connections.

How much longer Hussein Obama can continue to dupe the American public by lying and walking between the raindrops, depends on we as Americans being concerned over Hussein Obama''s SECRET AGENDA, AND BY NOW HIS LIKELY PARTICIPATION IN CONSPIRING AGAINST AND ENDANGERING OUR NATION!

THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH EVIDENCE TO EVER TRUST HUSSEIN OBAMA AND HIS MENTORS AND ASSOCIATES WITH OUR NATION''S SECURITY, OR WITH OUR HIGHEST OFFICE!

[nolalou]

This is one more case of "weapons of mass distraction''! What''s important is the economy, the war in Iraq, health care, etc. Not some remark Obama made about rural voters in Pennsylvania!

[luckydj2]

I am very concerned that what we have learned in this poltical season very clearly is to win an election one has to through the kitchen sink and try to tear a person down to win. By looking at some of the blogs I think some people agree. But to win this can only be a hollow victory. What does it say about the decency of peoples moral values. I have learned that one has to lie, twist truths, find dirt to get elected. Well I guess I am part of the bitter middle class. Iam also bitter and frustrated that I have to go into debt potentially or for go retirement to send my child to college. Why are people not talking about this. Oh Iam sorry, Iam suppose to be happy.

[luckydj2]

It about the economy stupid...its about gas prices...its about getting people good paying jobs, its about health care, its about being lied to by Bush on going to Iraq. People should be outraged that we were lied to and the death rate increases of our American troops. But no, since we can''t doing anything about these issues,we want to use our emotions and time to promote twisted interpretations of comments by Hillary Clinton and McCain whose only motive is to win an election. Are we not smarter than this America?????

[whitepicks2]

Here''s Obama''s response, in full....''I was in San Francisco talking to a group at a fundraiser and somebody asked how%u2019re you going to get votes in Pennsylvania? What%u2019s going on there? We hear that%u2019s its hard for some working class people to get behind you%u2019re campaign. I said, ''Well look, they%u2019re frustrated and for good reason. Because for the last 25 years they%u2019ve seen jobs shipped overseas. They%u2019ve seen their economies collapse. They have lost their jobs. They have lost their pensions. They have lost their healthcare.

[whitepicks2]

''And for 25, 30 years Democrats and Republicans have come before them and said we%u2019re going to make your community better. We%u2019re going to make it right and nothing ever happens. And of course they%u2019re bitter. Of course they%u2019re frustrated. You would be too. In fact many of you are. Because the same thing has happened here in Indiana. The same thing happened across the border in Decatur. The same thing has happened all across the country. Nobody is looking out for you. Nobody is thinking about you. And so people end up- they don%u2019t vote on economic issues because they don%u2019t expect anybody%u2019s going to help them. So people end up, you know, voting on issues like guns, and are they going to have the right to bear arms. They vote on issues like gay marriage. And they take refuge in their faith and their community and their families and things they can count on. But they don%u2019t believe they can count on Washington. So I made this statement-- so, here%u2019s what rich. Senator Clinton says %u2018No, I don%u2019t think that people are bitter in Pennsylvania. You know, I think Barack%u2019s being condescending.%u2019 John McCain says, %u2018Oh, how could he say that? How could he say people are bitter? You know, he%u2019s obviously out of touch with people.%u2019

[whitepicks2]

''Out of touch? Out of touch? I mean, John McCain%u2014it took him three tries to finally figure out that the home foreclosure crisis was a problem and to come up with a plan for it, and he%u2019s saying I%u2019m out of touch? Senator Clinton voted for a credit card-sponsored bankruptcy bill that made it harder for people to get out of debt after taking money from the financial services companies, and she says I%u2019m out of touch? No, I%u2019m in touch. I know exactly what%u2019s going on. I know what%u2019s going on in Pennsylvania. I know what%u2019s going on in Indiana. I know what%u2019s going on in Illinois. People are fed-up. They%u2019re angry and they%u2019re frustrated and they%u2019re bitter. And they want to see a change in Washington and that%u2019s why I%u2019m running for President of the United States of America.''

[whitepicks2]

I''d admit to being very bitter over (1) being lied into war (2) collusion between Bush/Cheney policy and corporations to stick it to the public. (3) twiddling our thumbs on global warming (4) conservatives who insist on using religion as a wedge and ''patriotism'' as a bludgeon - if anyone is 100% ''patriotic'', under what masquerades as patriotism - meaning to agree with your leaders no matter what - that person is an idiot. (5) sponsoring torture, Gitmo, erosion of habeas corpus. That''s the top 5, and, yes I''m a bitter man right now. If you''re not bitter in some way, especially about the loss of 4025+ soldiers, and willing to demand change, you are not supporting your country, and not patriotic in my book.

[luckydj2]

This is all about nothing. I am a middle class person and Iam bitter that our government has us paying 4.00 gas. Why are we not talking about this. Oh thats right Iam suppose to be happy. Iam bitter because our government lied to the American people about why we should go to war in Iraq. I bitter because of Bushes policies and Nafta which have lost jobs to foreign countries. I think it is naive that people don''t understand that people are fed up with the Bush policies that reward the rich who get 109 Million a year. These people are not hurting. Its the middle class and below who are frustrated with business as usual government. Iam frustrated with politics that tries to get peoples mind off the issues of the economy to make this a politic issue.

[firststate]

Sounds like a lot of people are bitter for a candidate''s having the stones to say that people are bitter because our government all too often ignores regular people in favor of lobbyists and big "contributors."

[leef531]

Is the majority of Americans frustrated, angry? That means bitter to me. Clinging to guns & religion...he meant we VOTE that way. We vote our traditions, grew up with guns-(no matter what party pro gun gets my vote) Hard times, we turn to our religion sometimes, our family, our friends, people like ourselves...NOT ANYONE DIFFERENT. Hence we vote that way. Comfort zone. We dont trust politians. Obama was asked "why blue collar workers were not voting for him"
He is different, not our comfort zone.
Not in the tradition base, republican religion belt work. Anti Immigration.
He wasn''t talking down to us. Explaining frustrations. Mind set.
But as many wonder...why is it that
we vote for the people who send our JOB OVERSEAS.
we vote for the people who dont give a *** about gas prices
we vote for the people who accept lobbyist money from subprime lenders and bail out banks -not home owners
we vote for the people who promised healthcare and never delivered in 8 years
we vote for the people who took us war that we have not even begun to pay for yet, but our childrens children will
we vote for the people who red handed get caught in a lie and we still trust them
this is what he was trying to explain...with our traditions...we hold so dear...that we harm ourselves.

[neonink]

If anyone knows about antipathy, it''s Obama.

and Michelle, and Rev. Wright, and William C. Ayers

[rwmackenzie-2009]

I apologize for taking this tread slightly off topic, but then again that is the nature of posts. I think PBS, or some cable network channel, should pick up the subject of socio economics and unpack this volatile issue. People need to understand what makes his or her neighbor tick. Until citizens of the United States expand his or her interests beyond his or her immediate network of people, e.g. family, extended family, co-workers and friends, the culture of the United States will remain divisive, fragmented and stagnant. For individuals to grow, he or she must look outside of his or her comfort zone. It is time the citizens of the United States begin a Walk About.

[tracy1morgan]

No more "protected" status. Barack is more full of race based rhetoric than any other candidate. Time for that beat down he must of missed at Harvard.

LMAO

[nanging3]

In Obama own words in his book...

And it was equally candid about his youthful struggles: pot, booze and %u201Cmaybe a
little blow,%u201D he wrote, could %u201Cpush questions of who I was out of my mind,%u201D
flatten %u201Cout the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory.%u201D Most
memorably, the book gave the reader a heartfelt sense of what it was like to
grow up in the 1960%u2019s and 70%u2019s, straddling America%u2019s color lines: the sense of
knowing two worlds and belonging to neither, the sense of having to forge an
identity of his own.