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State Party Committee Officially Decides Against Revote; Fate Of Delegates Unresolved

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by miles1967-2009 April 4, 2008 11:25 PM EDT
Follow the rules and the punishments which BOTH states were warned about!!!

For all of you right-wing, idiotic sheep posting that this will SOMEHOW impact the democratic race...give it up you morons. See you at the Obama/McCain debates this summer!!! Good luck!
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by croft777 April 4, 2008 11:15 PM EDT
The DNC should just give the wins to Hillary, she did win both Michigan and Florida. Obama said to the Michigan supporters that if they wanted to choose him to vote uncommited, same as having his name on the ballot. Obamas name was uncommitted. Neither got to campaigne in Florida, but Hillary still won, its only fair that they give the wins to her. If they try and split the delegates 50-50, there will be alot of pissed off Hillary supporters. Obama didn''t earn it, he didn''t win it, he lost.
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by slayrre7 April 4, 2008 10:59 PM EDT
BYE BYE MS. AMERICAN PIE...DROVE MY CHEVY TO THE LEVY AND VOTED FOR McCAIN...!

Nice jobe DNC...idiots!
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by slayrre7 April 4, 2008 10:56 PM EDT
There are two reasons why Michigan and Florida voters are being locked out:

1st) Barack Obama knows there is a good chance Hillary would win both states and therefore decreasing his chances of winning...so...Barack''s supporters are working their ARSES off to make sure a re-vote doesn''t occur in either state.

2nd) The Republicans are blocking a re-vote because they want all swing voters in each state to feel disenfranchised by the Democratic Party and protest their snub by voting for McCain in the General Election.

The difference between Obama and the Republicans...?

The Republicans don''t pretend to be unifiers whereas Barack Obama is interested only in his agenda and making sure his rhetoric about unification carries him over the top.

Luckily for Barack...the media had annointed him as their golden child during the Democratic primaries... thus keeping him from recieving the consisten scrutiny that Hillary has been the target of.

Bush + Bush Obama = 12 years of rhetoric & incompetence

Voting for Barack is paying off the media bias for a job well done AND proving "once again" that style is more important than substance.

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by dclynette April 4, 2008 10:34 PM EDT
Everyone is asking "How could Obama sit in the pew of Trintiy United Church of Christ for twenty years and listen to the rants of Rev. Wright?" Answer: He had to believe or come to believe what Rev. Wright said. How can I be so sure? Cognitive dissonance refers to the psychological discomfort that occurs when how you behave is psychologically incompatable to what you believe. To reduce cognitive dissonce Obama would have to have either "left the church" or "changed his beliefs" to match what the Rev. Wright was saying. Since he did not leave the church he most likely believed Rev. Wright''s teachings when he joined the church or changed his belief system to match Rev. Wright''s beliefs. If he did neither the internal psychological conflict would have been too great to bear and Obama would not have exposed his daughter''s to something that caused him so much psychological discomfort.

The only other possible explanation is that Obama fell prey to Selective Inattention. In that situation a person ignores or avoids percieving that which generates anxiety. I think selective inattention is an unlikely explanation for Obama''s behavior since his contact with Rev. Wright was frequent and long-standing and included both auditory and written input. An explanation of selective inattention would mean Obama has a very defensive ego structure and could not accurately percieve those around him which does not seem the case in other situations.
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by estabwary April 4, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
Don''t count their votes. Voters were under the assumption that their votes would not count when
they voted; candidates were told they would not
count. Those 2 elections were run half-cocked,
so don''t count them. They are worthless elections.
And the voters in those states need to hold the
bozos responsible for cheapening their primary accountable & wasting their money on invalid
elections! Call the ACLU or any other election
body and sue the state in a class-action suit
so it doesn''t happen again. Those 2 elections
were ruined by the states & there is no way to
repair it. Tampering was done, plain & simple.


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by bobmarisol April 4, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
The Dems cant win the general election without Florida. And they already got beat big time in Florida in 2004. Now that many Florida Democrats are angry about being disenfranchised, there is no way Hillary/Obama can defeat McCain.
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by bud28dy April 4, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
Another nail in the Democrat''s coffin. Apparently both of these morons are dead set on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They both deserve to lose.
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by wanax1-2009 April 4, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
How can Hillary keep claiming she "wants every vote to count" while also saying that delegates (pledged or super) don''t have to vote in accordance with the way their states voted? Either you respect the vote or you don''t. You can make a case that superdelegates are in a special position to decide on the better candidate without regard for the vote in their district or state but encouraging pledged delegates to switch sides (i.e. ignore the voters) while lamenting that if she withdraws now the voters in the remaining states won''t get to exercise their democratic rights is the height of hypocrisy. Hillary can, maybe even should, stay in the race till June 3rd but by the time the last primary is over the remaining superdelegates should declare their preference. Whoever wins and ends up as the Democratic nominee will need more than 8 weeks to unite the party and concentrate on McCain. Waiting to "resolve" the race until the unusually late convention in August will give the election to McCain.
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by tawpdawg1 April 4, 2008 9:26 PM EDT
All it takes for the Republicans to win is for enough Democrats to not vote because they got screwed over. No wonder John McCain is wearing a smile--he knows he has it won no matter who his opponent is.

Posted by random_radar at 05:58 PM : Apr 04, 2008

There is a TIDAL WAVE comin'', brother. ALL Americans have been screwed over for 7 long years and we ain''t gonna let it slide. Its time to change the slogan to "YES WE WILL !"
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by irliberal April 4, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
Where am I wrong?

Posted by perceptions5 at 06:10 PM

You inhale. And you exhale. That''s what you do right.

Everything else is wrong.
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by popstom1 April 4, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
what did you expect look who runs MI.
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by perceptions5 April 4, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
So I guess that makes it "official".

DEMOCRATS "DON''T COUNT ALL THE VOTES"

Wow! and we''ve always been told by the Democrats and repeated by their close corrupt pals in our liberal wolfpack press that only the "Republicans" didn''t count all the votes.

Well that had been a LIE anyways.............a LIE that was just repeated over and over again.

NOW! when someone says "count all the votes".......ALL Americans can think of the Democrat Party.....................how nice, how true, and how really sad is that?

Where am I wrong?
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by irliberal April 4, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
Florida. A nasty problem. And now Michigan.

NAMES. I WANT NAMES. I want to know WHO made the decision in Florida and Michigan to break DNC party rules and run their primaries ahead of schedule. Not only did they not have the right, they should be severely punished for causing this problem.

I WANT NAMES! Why is nobody pointing the fingers where they belong? WHO WERE THESE IRRESPONSIBLE AND SELFISH INDIVIDUALS?!?!
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by random_radar April 4, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
Last year everyone--Democrats, Republicans, and Independents--agreed that the next president would be a Democrat.

This year it looks like the next president probably won''t be a Democrat. Not because the primary race is close, but rather because the race is going to turn dirty by the convention and someone is going to be alienated and angry.

All it takes for the Republicans to win is for enough Democrats to not vote because they got screwed over. No wonder John McCain is wearing a smile--he knows he has it won no matter who his opponent is.
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by oscarez April 4, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
What a bunch of Dumb Azz''s we Democrats can be. No wonder we can''t win the general election.
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by colvinatch April 4, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
Could the Democrats screw this election up any more? This is a TOTAL MESS. Dean should step up and lead or step down.
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by hungry1968 April 4, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
coming from the queen of whiners

Posted by jamesm12341 at 05:24 PM : Apr 04, 2008




Still can''t put together a logical post, I see.
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by idnnsg April 4, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
"The Dems cant win the general election without Florida. And since many Florida Democrats are now disenfranchised, there is no way Hillary/Obama can defeat McCain." - someone who doesn''t understand that a primary is not a general election (no wonder he''s a repug!)

Hey, re.****: They are NOT prevented from voting in the general election. They just can''t seat delegates at the Democratic convention. I doubt that any of them are going to switch to McCain because their ill-advised gambit of moving their primary dates up has failed them.
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by coco0331 April 4, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
Michigan voters are just going to have to except the fact that their vote is worthless and their elected officials didn''t care to have their vote counted. So they broke the rules knowing the out come. No reason for exception, its only your most basic right. I think the governor should resign over something this stupid. And Howard Dean too.
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