Comments on: Obama Frames Race As Match With McCain

On The Stump In Pa., Illinois Senator Criticizes GOP Candidate, Largely Ignores Clinton

[feelfree1]

RowdyTexan2,

Obama does not strike me as particularly racist, and that does not even rate among the problems that I have with him, but if he is a racist, then this would seem to help to qualify him for the job, by the sad standard set by just about every, if not every other U.S. President.

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by chitown639 at 02:30 AM : Apr 02, 2008

You are the worst liar on these boards! I have seen you post YouTube Clinton hating yourself! And uproariously laughed about it and presented it as gospel!

You don''t understand! This is serious! It''s not about you! It''s about electing a president!

To you it''s some kind of one upmanship game!

[brianbwb-2009]

"Yes racism still exists to a degree, but there is just as much opportunity for blacks as there is for whites in America today. So separating US and THEM just doesn''''t fly anymore." Posted by TiredoftheBS

You''re dreaming. Any statistic you can find, and several stories in the news daily, as well as several of the posters on these threads, would show you are greatly mistaken, by every known standard of measurement, in all important facets of society.

"Except for indians not taxed, 3/5th of all others"
Posted by trapbreak

Should a people, whose land was taken from them in a campaign of genocide and corruption that makes Hitler look like a small time thug, be also taxed?

The 3/5 is another outdated voter discrimination formula, not a legal statute that defines the artificial concept called "race".

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by FeelFree1 at 02:22 AM : Apr 02, 2008

FeelFree, I only reject Rev. Wright''s spews because he is supporting racism! He has his right to free speech just like anybody else does.

What I object to is Mr. Obama''s lying about knowing his ideology, and then coming back and saying, Of course I knew!

Rev. Wrights words are NOT just third person. Mr. Obama wrote books honoring his teachings, and speaking to his own separatist beliefs and put them on the market. THAT is an issue!

And I am sorry, I cannot just take his word that he took only the good stuff from Rev. Wright''s teachings, because his books say otherwise.

If he can bring himself above such teachings then that''s a wonderful thing. But he going to have to straighten up and quit playing these bull ***** political games!

[tiredofthebs]

Yeah, go on the internet and believe the garbage on Obama like its the gospel....


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Posted by chitown639 at 02:26 AM : Apr 02, 2008


Can''t let that go !!!!!!! Name one accomplishment in his (OBAMA) political career !!!!!!! And I''m supposed to put this "newbie" in the White House ?! Get real. Show me something other than speeches.

[feelfree1]

Correction-

...who WOULD otherwise be allies, that is.

[tiredofthebs]

G2G folks. I leave you with this. Race/Gender are moot points in this election. This country is in turmoil !!!! Can a freshman Senator lead us through these tough times ? Methinks NOT !!!! Goodnight all. RowdyTexan2 ...... always a pleasure.

[tiredofthebs]

You''''re dreaming. any statistic you can find, and several stories in the news daily, as well as several of the posters on these threads, would show you are greatly mistaken.


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Posted by brianbwb at 02:17 AM : Apr 02, 2008


Statistics ?! Media coverage ?! This makes it true ???!!!!

[feelfree1]

I have to admit that I am not all that interested in the issue, so I have not studied it in depth, but Rev. Wright''s comments seem to be well within the limits of free speech, and I have not seen any comments attributed to him that I have much of a problem with.

I agree with him, for the most part. My bigger problem is that non-whites in the U.S. seem overwhelmingly mesmerized by some religion or another, despite the fact that most of their ancestors were among the worst victims of the very same religions that they support today.

This is disappointing and frustrating, as it only serves to keep them divided from those of us who otherwise be allies.

[tiredofthebs]

Tired, I hope you know me well enough to know from my posts, Mr. Obama''''s race holds no meaning to me.




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Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 02:18 AM : Apr 02, 2008

Ignore these fools posting in here. I am well aware that you are FAR FROM A RACIST !

[tiredofthebs]

But right now I''''m just not sure I can support an Obama ticket at all. There''''s just too many negatives.


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Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 02:16 AM : Apr 02, 2008


He blew it !!!!! OBAMA on the Democratic ticket spells defeat for our party in November. He leaves a bad taste in the mouths of INDEPEDENTS.

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by TiredoftheBS at 02:16 AM : Apr 02, 2008

Tired, I hope you know me well enough to know from my posts, Mr. Obama''s race holds no meaning to me.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Yes racism still exists to a degree, but there is just as much opportunity for blacks as there is for whites in America today. So separating US and THEM just doesn''''t fly anymore." Posted by TiredoftheBS

You''re dreaming. any statistic you can find, and several stories in the news daily, as well as several of the posters on these threads, would show you are greatly mistaken.

[rowdytexan2]

Who do you think you will end up voting for in the general election, if Clinton does not prevail as the candidate for the Democrats?



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Posted by FeelFree1 at 02:12 AM : Apr 02, 2008

That is seriously up for debate right now. It depends on whether Obama is at the top of the ticket. If he''s in the VP slot, I think that would be a good idea so we can have more time to look at him.

But right now I''m just not sure I can support an Obama ticket at all. There''s just too many negatives.

[tiredofthebs]

Neither candidate can win sufficient elected delegates in the remaining primaries to secure the nomination, and so the battle has moved to winning over the superdelegates. Obama''''s bogus "race-baiter" strategy is one of the main reasons he has come this far, and it is affecting the process now. But by deliberately inflaming the most destructive passions in American politics, the strategy has badly divided and confused Democrats, at least for the moment. And having done so, it may well doom the Democrats in the general election.




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Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 02:13 AM : Apr 02, 2008


I said it before ..... I CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON YOU TO BLOW AWAY THE SMOKE & GET TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER. Sadly, it looks like their (obama campaign) strategy is working ......

[rowdytexan2]

(In his Philadelphia speech on race, Obama pressed the attack by three times likening Ferraro to Rev. Wright.)

Since the Philadelphia speech, the candidate and his surrogates have sounded tone-deaf on the subject of race. On March 20, Obama described his Kansas grandmother to a Philadelphia radio interviewer as "a typical white person." The same day, Sen. John Kerry said that Obama would help U.S. relations with Muslim nations "because he''s a black man." Another Obama supporter, Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri, called him the first black leader "to come to the American people not as a victim but as a leader." Her history excluded and conceivably denigrated countless black leaders, from Frederick Douglass to Rep. John Lewis. Obama remained silent, refusing to take Kerry and McCaskill to task for their racially charged remarks.

Neither candidate can win sufficient elected delegates in the remaining primaries to secure the nomination, and so the battle has moved to winning over the superdelegates. Obama''s bogus "race-baiter" strategy is one of the main reasons he has come this far, and it is affecting the process now. But by deliberately inflaming the most destructive passions in American politics, the strategy has badly divided and confused Democrats, at least for the moment. And having done so, it may well doom the Democrats in the general election.

[rowdytexan2]

Obama''s backers, including members of his official campaign staff, then played what might be called "the race-baiter card." Hillary Clinton, in crediting both Lyndon Johnson as well as the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. for the Civil Rights Act in 1964, had supposedly denigrated King, and by extension Obama. Allegedly, Bill Clinton had dismissed Obama''s victory in South Carolina by comparing it to those of the Rev. Jesse Jackson in the 1980s. (In fact, their electoral totals were comparable - and in the interview at issue, Clinton complimented Obama on his performance "everywhere" - a line the media usually omitted.)

Thereafter, Obama''s high command billowed further race-baiter allegations into the media. Pointing to the notoriously right-wing Drudge Report, Obama''s campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign of deliberately leaking a supposedly racist photograph of Obama in African garb, which actually originated on still another right-wing Web site. Finally, David Axelrod trumpeted Geraldine Ferraro''s awkward remarks in an obscure California newspaper as part of the Clinton campaign''s "insidious pattern" of divisiveness.

[feelfree1]

Hi RowdyTexan2,

Who do you think you will end up voting for in the general election, if Clinton does not prevail as the candidate for the Democrats?

[rowdytexan2]

The Obama campaign and its supporters pressed this strategy after Clinton''s unexpected win in New Hampshire. Pundits partial to Obama, including Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post and John Nichols of the Nation, instantly mused that their candidate lost because of supposedly bigoted New Hampshire whites who had lied to pre-primary pollsters - an easily disproven falsehood that nevertheless gained currency in the media.

Next morning, Obama''s national co-chair, Jesse Jackson Jr., cast false and vicious aspersions about Hillary Clinton''s famous emotional moment in New Hampshire as a measure of her deep racial insensitivity. "Her appearance brought her to tears," said Jackson, "not Hurricane Katrina."

[rowdytexan2]

Although Wright had until recently been obscure to the American public, political insiders and reporters have long known about him. On March 6, 2007, the New York Times reported that Obama had disinvited Wright from speaking at his announcement because, as Wright said Obama told him, "You can get kind of rough in the sermons." By then, conservative commentators had widely denounced Wright. His performances in the pulpit were easily accessible on DVD, direct from his church. But Clinton, despite her travails, elected to remain silent.

Instead, she had to fight back against a deliberately contrived strategy to make her and her husband look like race-baiters. Obama''s supporters and operatives, including his chief campaign strategist David Axelrod, seized on accurate and historically noncontroversial statements and supplied a supposedly covert racist subtext that they then claimed the calculating Clinton campaign had inserted.